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Venison Pastrami

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  • processheadP processhead

    kyle I use Tenderquick since it was called for in the recipe I have been using for a long time and I like the overall results I get.
    I don’t think there is anything particularly special about it, since it is just salt, sugar and cure, after all.

    I was actually thinking about it today and was considering what combination of those ingredients I would use if I were to come up with a substitute.

    Reality is, I tend to stick with something that works unless it becomes unavailable and I am forced to come up with an alternative.

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    kyle
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    processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

    hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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    • processheadP processhead

      Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

      Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
      This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

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      Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

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      Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
      Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

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      calldoctoday
      Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
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      processhead Very good looking meat there.

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      • processheadP processhead

        Over the weekend I butchered a doe that my SIL shot right before Christmas. Seems like an opportune time to turn 10 lbs of hindquarter roasts into some venison pastrami while they are nice and fresh.

        Here is where I am pumping them with a cure made of water, Tenderquick, brown sugar, and garlic powder.
        This was also the first time I tried out my Walton’s brine pump system. Happy to report it works very well for pumping fresh meat.

        20211226_143634.jpg

        Next they get a dry rub of more Tenderquick, salt, chopped fresh garlic, onion powder, brown sugar, black pepper. Then into a 2 gallon zip lock back to cure in the refrigerator for 4 days.

        20211226_145816.jpg

        20211226_151246.jpg

        20211226_151253.jpg

        Day 4, out of the bag for a fresh water soak. Rinsed off the chopped garlic and curing spices, before allowing to air dry.
        Then a dry rub of seasonings, ground pepper, coriander, and brown sugar before smoking. The roast in the upper right corner was also dusted with dried red pepper flakes as an experiment.

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        cdavis
        Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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        processhead looking good 👍.

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        • kyleK kyle

          processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

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          processhead
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          kyle said in Venison Pastrami:

          processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

          I read through the chipped deer thread and I think the comment on TQ was the fact that it contains sodium nitrate and most other cures do not. The argument against using cures with nitrate in them has to do with cooking at high temperature and formation of nitrosamines. With chipped venison preparation in the kitchen, it seems unlikely that you would see those high temperatures, so I think that any risks are very minor when used the way we are using it.

          I think the best reason for using Cure #1 in processing is the correct amount to use for good, safe results is well documented and straight forward. Directions for using TQ are less so, IMO.

          Paul

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          • processheadP processhead

            kyle said in Venison Pastrami:

            processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

            I read through the chipped deer thread and I think the comment on TQ was the fact that it contains sodium nitrate and most other cures do not. The argument against using cures with nitrate in them has to do with cooking at high temperature and formation of nitrosamines. With chipped venison preparation in the kitchen, it seems unlikely that you would see those high temperatures, so I think that any risks are very minor when used the way we are using it.

            I think the best reason for using Cure #1 in processing is the correct amount to use for good, safe results is well documented and straight forward. Directions for using TQ are less so, IMO.

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            kyle
            Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
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            processhead thanks for taking the time to read through it and your explanation. As the old saying goes “*I dont understand everything I know”

            hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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            • kyleK kyle

              processhead thanks for taking the time to read through it and your explanation. As the old saying goes “*I dont understand everything I know”

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              kyle Incidentally, I have made SOS with my venison pastrami and it was very good.

              Paul

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              • kyleK kyle

                processhead thanks. In my chipped venison recipe I use TQ , I like the results, but someone thought I should use cure since I smoked them. Im not opposed to it, but I get good results now and dont want to screw it up. Maybe you read about it in the “chipped deer” thread towards the last post. I would appreciate your input.

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                kyle I think if I still have a boned out hind quarter in the freezer that is going on the list for late Jan otherwise it will need to be put on the Nov list. But then I could always do a trial with beef. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice, practice, practice…

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                • processheadP processhead

                  kyle Incidentally, I have made SOS with my venison pastrami and it was very good.

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                  Power User Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill
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                  processhead Nicely done! I always make mine from brisket, might have to do a hind next year.

                  Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                  I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                  Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                    Awesome my friend

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                      Looks delicious! I’m definitely going to revisit this post and take some notes. Thanks for posting. 😋

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