Small batch protein extraction
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IMO it would be incorrect to think that mechanical mixing is the only way to get good protein extraction. Until you get up to a certain batch size, hand mixing will get it done, its just a little more work and and maybe cold hands.
Someone starting out in the hobby and on a limited budget would probably be better off spending their money on other equipment and supplies. As others have mentioned, small batches are really easy to hand mix and when it is time to clean up, it is one less piece of equipment to wash down. -
I use the dough hook on my kitchen aid and mix 6.25 pounds at a time…I get great protein extraction mixing on speed #2 for 8 minutes scraping down the sides halfway through.
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I use the dough hook on my kitchen aid and mix 6.25 pounds at a time…I get great protein extraction mixing on speed #2 for 8 minutes scraping down the sides halfway through.
Mcjagger Hadn’t thought of the dough hook. Makes sense though.
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Well, I must try the Kitchen-aid, I have hand mixed all the time. Just that the reading of some guys make me feel I am losing out by mixing with the hand!
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I’ll have to agree with twilliams here. Since going from 4.5mm to 3mm plate for final grind and incorporating Sure Gel I’ve not used the mixer for less than a 25# batch. A lot less clean up and the meat gets sticky enough to pull the Nitrile gloves off your hand. Do have to wear a jersey glove under the Nitrile because the hands get cold pretty fast.
It’s all about less dishes and more time for a cocktail to watch the smoker work!
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I’ll have to agree with twilliams here. Since going from 4.5mm to 3mm plate for final grind and incorporating Sure Gel I’ve not used the mixer for less than a 25# batch. A lot less clean up and the meat gets sticky enough to pull the Nitrile gloves off your hand. Do have to wear a jersey glove under the Nitrile because the hands get cold pretty fast.
It’s all about less dishes and more time for a cocktail to watch the smoker work!
PapaSop After having conducted the experiment, I will probably hand mix from now on. Your last sentence out it all in perspective!
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Doing less than 5#, the Dough hooked has worked for me. But yes there is clean up. But I get better extraction than hand mixing. My opinion only, might not be the best solution.
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I use the dough hook on my kitchen aid and mix 6.25 pounds at a time…I get great protein extraction mixing on speed #2 for 8 minutes scraping down the sides halfway through.
Mcjagger I’ll have to give that a try for my 5# batches. Thanks for the tip.
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Has anyone tried using the paddle blade on a Kitchenaid stand mixer to mix a small batch of meat for snack sticks?
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I use the 6qt ka mixer for 5lb test batches. I use the paddle. The bowl fits in the dishwasher. Wish my 20lb or 50lb tub would fit. Cold cramped hands isnt something that interests me anymore. Carpel tunnel sucks.
If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy - Red Green
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I use the 6qt ka mixer for 5lb test batches. I use the paddle. The bowl fits in the dishwasher. Wish my 20lb or 50lb tub would fit. Cold cramped hands isnt something that interests me anymore. Carpel tunnel sucks.
smokinbubba I would like to design a 12 lb. mixer electric powered as many here do small batches ,I have bursitis in both shoulders and arthritis in my back hand mixing is difficult at times !
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smokinbubba I would like to design a 12 lb. mixer electric powered as many here do small batches ,I have bursitis in both shoulders and arthritis in my back hand mixing is difficult at times !
craigrice your not alone. I have a 20lb manual LEM i would like to power. I just need to find the right gearbox. Direct drive is way to fast i figure i could do 5lbs in it successfully as my 50lb will do 15lb fine.
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Using the standard-size Kitchen Aid, I get 5# of meat/fat/spice mix in the bowl. I tried both the dough hook and the paddle and the paddle gives me better extraction. Can’t remember times exactly, but I think I start seeing good extraction at about 10-11 minutes on speed 2-3. I know it’s right when the mixer starts jumping around and the meat wants to climb out the top of the bowl. That’s the best way I know to describe. I do watch the mixer pretty close and work the meat off the sides often with a spatula. With just a stainless steel bowl and the paddle, cleanup takes no time at all.
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