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Collagen casing shrinkage

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  • peterbP Offline
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    peterb
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    I have given up in collagen. Natural casings all the way. I know not everyone agrees, and that is ok. But I nearly always was less than satisfied with collagen

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      ok… I hereby formally place a request that Jonathon show us if it’s possible for a home processor to get good results using these casings 😉

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        Natural is snappier I like… Don’t want to fight my breakfast …

        GT

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          Collagen are the way many commercial processor’s go. I use natural casings for most because I like them better. Take a walk through any large grocery store and you will be hard pressed to find anything in natural casings. Go to an ethnic shop and it is a different story.

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            Yeah, that’s kinda why I feel like there ought to be a way to make these work. If what you find in a grocery store is using collagen for breakfast links, then they should work right? Perhaps it’s just a slightly different casing. Dunno.

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              #8

              Agree natural casings are the way to go. I got tired of picking bits of collagen casing out of my teeth years ago. My only regret is that sheep casings are the biggest monetary expenditure for any of my sausage projects. But the quality of the finished product makes it definitely worth it.

              Paul

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                Yeah, that’s kinda why I feel like there ought to be a way to make these work. If what you find in a grocery store is using collagen for breakfast links, then they should work right? Perhaps it’s just a slightly different casing. Dunno.

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                gChart said in Collagen casing shrinkage:

                Yeah, that’s kinda why I feel like there ought to be a way to make these work. If what you find in a grocery store is using collagen for breakfast links, then they should work right? Perhaps it’s just a slightly different casing. Dunno.

                A lot of the breakfast links I see in the stores are extruded without any casing.

                Paul

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                  Update… As much as it goes against my sense of what is “right”, I baked my sausage links this morning at 350° for around 12 minutes. Wasn’t the same as pan frying but shockingly, the casings held up just fine and made a pretty decent end product. Would still be nice to figure out if there’s a way to pan fry with the collagen though.
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                    gChart Most of what you in the store nowadays is a co-extrusion casing. It goes on as a liquid at the time of stuffing. For collagen and pan frying I see that happening alot too, it can be mitigated by starting it lower but I never manage to totally prevent casing shrinkage with breakfast sausage.

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                      Jonathon thanks for the info! I’ll play around with starting at a lower heat. I may just head back to natural for the next batch, we’ll see.

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                        Team Blue Power User Traeger Primo Grills PK Grills Canning Sous Vide Community Moderator
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                        #13

                        Pan fried Dixie breakfast links.
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                        Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                          Those look like they came out really good Tex_77, pretty much no shrinkage. Do you do anything special in either the prep or pan frying?

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                          • gChartG gChart

                            Those look like they came out really good Tex_77, pretty much no shrinkage. Do you do anything special in either the prep or pan frying?

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                            #15

                            gChart just cooked them over med to low heat. Started in cold pan.

                            Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                              Tex_77 Side by side test of collagen in hot pan vs cold pan anyone? Could be interesting and a good excuse for me to make some sausage on company time?

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                                Only use fresh for breakfast links. Slow heat, cold pan or simmer in a little water to bring the meat temp up and then brown. Depends on the mood 🤔

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