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  • craigriceC Offline
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    craigrice
    Power User Canning Team Orange Regular Contributors Veteran Masterbuilt
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    when you ice bath them you stop the cooking process this might help

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    • B beldend

      Made my first batch of venison snack sticks, the collagen casings don’t snap like I thought they would… they tear and pull away from the meat. I used 21 mm casings, my IT temp was 165 degrees F. 80/20 mix of venison/pork meat. I did not give them an ice bath… would that have helped with the “snap”?

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      AdamCA
      Team Blue Regular Contributors Green Mountain Grill Masterbuilt
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      beldend Part of what the ice bath does is “set” the casings to the meat so yes that would’ve helped.

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        I’m new to snack sticks and want to get good at them.
        I too have been having the same"non snap" or just plain chewy casings. Using 19mm collagen smoked casings, cook in the smoker at 140 for an hour, then 150 for a hour then 165 or so, then do a ice bath for 5 mins. Let them dry for a couple hours and still, no snapping. Chewy casings are kind of a bummer 🙂

        I’ll take anyone’s advise, I’ve been doing three pounds at a time so I can tinker and try to figure it out.
        Thanks! Eric

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        • ElsosE Elsos

          I’m new to snack sticks and want to get good at them.
          I too have been having the same"non snap" or just plain chewy casings. Using 19mm collagen smoked casings, cook in the smoker at 140 for an hour, then 150 for a hour then 165 or so, then do a ice bath for 5 mins. Let them dry for a couple hours and still, no snapping. Chewy casings are kind of a bummer 🙂

          I’ll take anyone’s advise, I’ve been doing three pounds at a time so I can tinker and try to figure it out.
          Thanks! Eric

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          Elsos Your ice bath should be at 15-20 minutes, that should help.

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          • ElsosE Elsos

            I’m new to snack sticks and want to get good at them.
            I too have been having the same"non snap" or just plain chewy casings. Using 19mm collagen smoked casings, cook in the smoker at 140 for an hour, then 150 for a hour then 165 or so, then do a ice bath for 5 mins. Let them dry for a couple hours and still, no snapping. Chewy casings are kind of a bummer 🙂

            I’ll take anyone’s advise, I’ve been doing three pounds at a time so I can tinker and try to figure it out.
            Thanks! Eric

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            Elsos
            Where are your casings from? Had the same issue with casings that come from a kit. Won’t mention the name’s here but since getting casings from Walton’s the problem went away. You’re process looks fine. A little longer ice bath maybe but thinking those casings are not up to par.

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              I think they are from LEM. Durable for sure.
              Someone recommended sheep casings which I’ve never tried, but I was hoping to get a Duke’s style of meat sticks, but better 🙂

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                Elsos
                Team Orange
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                I’ll get some Meatgistics a go, thanks for the idea!
                I also realized there was pretty much zero smoke flavor on those sticks, maybe some washed off with the bath, but it seems like nothing could penetrate the casing.

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                • ElsosE Elsos

                  I’ll get some Meatgistics a go, thanks for the idea!
                  I also realized there was pretty much zero smoke flavor on those sticks, maybe some washed off with the bath, but it seems like nothing could penetrate the casing.

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                  AdamCA
                  Team Blue Regular Contributors Green Mountain Grill Masterbuilt
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                  Elsos I’ve never had the smoke flavor “wash off” during the ice bath. Most likely it’s the casings that aren’t in the best of shape.

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                  • AdamCAA AdamCA

                    Elsos I’ve never had the smoke flavor “wash off” during the ice bath. Most likely it’s the casings that aren’t in the best of shape.

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                    AdamCA
                    I have to agree that smoke flavor probably doesn’t wash off. But these casing tribulations are killing me. 😄 I’ve ordered some from Walton’s now and I’ll be able to compare for sure. Looking forward to more attempts, and being able still to eat my mistakes.

                    And I really appreciate the responsiveness of folks on this site, pretty nice to have a conversation about these things instead of me just reading everything I might stumble across!

                    So what are the Team orange or blue?

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                    • ElsosE Elsos

                      AdamCA
                      I have to agree that smoke flavor probably doesn’t wash off. But these casing tribulations are killing me. 😄 I’ve ordered some from Walton’s now and I’ll be able to compare for sure. Looking forward to more attempts, and being able still to eat my mistakes.

                      And I really appreciate the responsiveness of folks on this site, pretty nice to have a conversation about these things instead of me just reading everything I might stumble across!

                      So what are the Team orange or blue?

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                      YooperDog
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                      Elsos a friendly rivalry between Austin, Team Orange undefined and Jonathon Team Boohoo Blue undefined . You can select Team Orange under your settings. It provides some good banter among the community members. Go Team Orange undefined

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                        Elsos I am the leader of team blue and Austin is the leader of some other team…cant remember what! It all stems fro when we bought some new hats and I liked the blue one better and he liked orange, people got into it and we decided to create some teams. It is a fun distraction!

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