Meatgistics Podcast: Top 5 Meat Hacks for Snack Sticks
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Meatgistics Podcast: Top 5 Meat Hacks for Snack Sticks
Each week, Jon and Austin break out and critique a new beer and different sausage while they discuss everything about meat. Follow along as they talk about their favorite recipes and share some of the best expert tips and tricks for making sausage and jerky. Stay up to date on the latest news and current trends in the meat industry as Jon and Austin explore everything related to meat and more.
Beautiful Beverages
Jon is solo today but still drinking! Today he has Bid Idjit from Dugges Brewery and this was a serious beer! To quote an old Monty Python skit this is an excellent hand to hand beer! Filled with lots of flavor it is also extremely high in alcohol!
Top 5 Meat Hacks for Making Snack Sticks
#1 Add humidity by adding an oversized pan and sponge or dry wick material.
- What we are trying to do here is avoid “the stall” which is when the evaporation energy matches the thermal processing energy
- Adding relative humidity makes it harder for evaporation energy to slow down the cook
- We are making it easier for the water to evaporate as we are increasing the surface area.
- During a short 4 hour period we were able to empty a very large oversized water bowl in our PK 100 Smoker with a dry wick towel.#2 Use a binder and a meat mixer
- Protein extraction is the key to making good sausage. It prevents the fat from rendering out of the meat during the long smoking process.
- Binders help everything stick together
- Prevents fat out
- Much easier to get protein extraction with a mixer than hand though it can be done by hand as well
- All binders act differently but have similar aims. Carrot Fiber is best used for fresh sausages like bratwurst.
#2A Know your additives
-Seasoning (salt content)
-Sure Cure (botulism spores)
-Sure Gel / Super Bind / Soy Protein Blend
-Encapsulated Citric Acid
-Sodium Phosphate (maybe)
-Sodium Erythorbate (accelerator without the tang)
-Smoked meat Stabilizer
-Cheese
-Water#3 Pull at 130 and finish sous vide
- Parksider is a well established Meatgistics member and has shared plenty of great tips and information on here, but this is the one that probably has helped more people than any other user tip.
- As I talked about on the podcast vacuum packing is really only necessary if you are using a Sous Vide Circulator that pulls water in and circulates it back out. In that case you run the risk of clogging a filter with fats, oils or even small pieces of casings. Surprisingly, finishing it up without a vacuum bag does not cook any smoke flavor or any flavor out of the meat.#4 Fat content or raise pH
- For most sausage you want to be between 20-30% fat content, we always prefer pork fat as it is creamy, very light in color and has very little taste.
- Cold Phosphate raises the pH of the meat which lets it bind more effectively to the water, helping more of it stay in the meat during the cooking process.
- Fat effects the flavor by melting in your mouth and coating it, letting you experience the flavor more intensely and longer.
- Too much fat will render almost no matter what#5 Start your smoker within 20 degrees of products living weight
-Don’t stress proteins
-Prevents case hardening
-Get as close to this as possible, a propped lid/door will bleed heat from your smoker or oven but you have to be able to monitor ambient temperatureWatch Meatgistics Podcast: Top 5 Meat Hacks for Snack Sticks
Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself
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Meatgistics Podcast: Top 5 Meat Hacks for Snack Sticks
Each week, Jon and Austin break out and critique a new beer and different sausage while they discuss everything about meat. Follow along as they talk about their favorite recipes and share some of the best expert tips and tricks for making sausage and jerky. Stay up to date on the latest news and current trends in the meat industry as Jon and Austin explore everything related to meat and more.
Beautiful Beverages
Jon is solo today but still drinking! Today he has Bid Idjit from Dugges Brewery and this was a serious beer! To quote an old Monty Python skit this is an excellent hand to hand beer! Filled with lots of flavor it is also extremely high in alcohol!
Top 5 Meat Hacks for Making Snack Sticks
#1 Add humidity by adding an oversized pan and sponge or dry wick material.
- What we are trying to do here is avoid “the stall” which is when the evaporation energy matches the thermal processing energy
- Adding relative humidity makes it harder for evaporation energy to slow down the cook
- We are making it easier for the water to evaporate as we are increasing the surface area.
- During a short 4 hour period we were able to empty a very large oversized water bowl in our PK 100 Smoker with a dry wick towel.#2 Use a binder and a meat mixer
- Protein extraction is the key to making good sausage. It prevents the fat from rendering out of the meat during the long smoking process.
- Binders help everything stick together
- Prevents fat out
- Much easier to get protein extraction with a mixer than hand though it can be done by hand as well
- All binders act differently but have similar aims. Carrot Fiber is best used for fresh sausages like bratwurst.
#2A Know your additives
-Seasoning (salt content)
-Sure Cure (botulism spores)
-Sure Gel / Super Bind / Soy Protein Blend
-Encapsulated Citric Acid
-Sodium Phosphate (maybe)
-Sodium Erythorbate (accelerator without the tang)
-Smoked meat Stabilizer
-Cheese
-Water#3 Pull at 130 and finish sous vide
- Parksider is a well established Meatgistics member and has shared plenty of great tips and information on here, but this is the one that probably has helped more people than any other user tip.
- As I talked about on the podcast vacuum packing is really only necessary if you are using a Sous Vide Circulator that pulls water in and circulates it back out. In that case you run the risk of clogging a filter with fats, oils or even small pieces of casings. Surprisingly, finishing it up without a vacuum bag does not cook any smoke flavor or any flavor out of the meat.#4 Fat content or raise pH
- For most sausage you want to be between 20-30% fat content, we always prefer pork fat as it is creamy, very light in color and has very little taste.
- Cold Phosphate raises the pH of the meat which lets it bind more effectively to the water, helping more of it stay in the meat during the cooking process.
- Fat effects the flavor by melting in your mouth and coating it, letting you experience the flavor more intensely and longer.
- Too much fat will render almost no matter what#5 Start your smoker within 20 degrees of products living weight
-Don’t stress proteins
-Prevents case hardening
-Get as close to this as possible, a propped lid/door will bleed heat from your smoker or oven but you have to be able to monitor ambient temperatureWatch Meatgistics Podcast: Top 5 Meat Hacks for Snack Sticks
Jonathon Great podcast. My smoker has the ability to control both temperature and humidity. I see your temperature schedule, does a humidity schedule exist that you know of? Thanks
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Chef it does for some things. For example we have a humidity schedule for jerky here https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/625/how-to-make-homemade-restructured-jerky-recipe and I will get some meatgistics university stuff up with some humidity schedules for different products… sadly, I don’t know when, as soon as I can carve out a few days!
Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself
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Chef it does for some things. For example we have a humidity schedule for jerky here https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/625/how-to-make-homemade-restructured-jerky-recipe and I will get some meatgistics university stuff up with some humidity schedules for different products… sadly, I don’t know when, as soon as I can carve out a few days!
Jonathon Would you guess that the thermal process as in the reconstructed jerky would be a good place to start for snack sticks? My first guess is that it would be too low, but I defer to your guess, which is much better than anything I could come up with. That chamois thing you used I would only think would add much more moisture than listed in the reconstructed jerky process.
As always, thanks
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Chef yeah, I would ay that is going to be on the low side. I’ll try to take a quick look at an excalibur book I have when I get back in the office later today.
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Chef here is some snack stick information on relative humidity
Basic smoked schedule for cured sausages
Stage Time Dry Bulb Wet Bulb Relative Humidity Smoke Damper Position
1 30 min 120° 0° 0 No Open
2 30 min 145° 100° 21 Yes 2/3 shut
3 30 min 175° 155° 60.5 Yes 2/3 Shut
4 Until IT is 160 175° 170° 88 no ShutGet more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself
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Chef here is some snack stick information on relative humidity
Basic smoked schedule for cured sausages
Stage Time Dry Bulb Wet Bulb Relative Humidity Smoke Damper Position
1 30 min 120° 0° 0 No Open
2 30 min 145° 100° 21 Yes 2/3 shut
3 30 min 175° 155° 60.5 Yes 2/3 Shut
4 Until IT is 160 175° 170° 88 no ShutJonathon Thank you I’m going to get this started today or tomorrow.
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