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  • AndyHCMCA AndyHCMC

    Hi,
    Australian living in HCMC Vietnam, had a electric cheap mincer/stuffer for a couple of months, made a couple of below average batches of pork sausages just bought a 3kg/7lb 2 speed stuffer.

    I made some more pork sausages and I have a leaking problem with the meat when I stuff, I was using the 15mm tube and 20mm casings it blows out on the right hand side.

    I live in a smallish apartment so limited in equipment storage and usage, would love to make snack sticks but no way I could use a smoker in the apartment, I do have a 50l benchtop oven is there anyway I could use this to make more than just breakfast sausage?

    Could anyone point me in the right direction to head next to learn info on the above points?

    Thank you.

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    calldoctoday
    Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
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    AndyHCMC Ahoa there, Welcome aboard. That must be quite an experience. What brought you to Saigon? I have cheated in years past when smoking in the cold winter by using a smoke box in the oven. It really was not that bad & my wife had no issue with it, so it could not be so bad. Could you indeed try using your oven at a lower heat setting than even 225/250 & use the smoke box or even a smoke pan? I hope the idea helps. & don’t forget, Go BLUE. Have a much better new year.

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    • C calldoctoday

      AndyHCMC Ahoa there, Welcome aboard. That must be quite an experience. What brought you to Saigon? I have cheated in years past when smoking in the cold winter by using a smoke box in the oven. It really was not that bad & my wife had no issue with it, so it could not be so bad. Could you indeed try using your oven at a lower heat setting than even 225/250 & use the smoke box or even a smoke pan? I hope the idea helps. & don’t forget, Go BLUE. Have a much better new year.

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      AndyHCMC
      wrote on last edited by
      #592

      calldoctoday said in Roll Call (Start Here First):

      & don’t forget, Go BLUE

      Being new here I don’t get the Go Blue reference?

      New to sausage making, love snack sticks, breakfast sausage, jerky.
      Equipment: cheap mixer/stuffer, 3L/7lb 2 speed stuffer.
      Live in an apartment so limited room and only have a benchtop 50L convection oven & kitchen aid mixer.

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      • AndyHCMCA AndyHCMC

        calldoctoday said in Roll Call (Start Here First):

        & don’t forget, Go BLUE

        Being new here I don’t get the Go Blue reference?

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        badfire2625
        Team Orange Regular Contributors Dry Cured Sausage
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        AndyHCMC yep. Go. Away. Far. 😂🤣

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        • AndyHCMCA AndyHCMC

          calldoctoday said in Roll Call (Start Here First):

          & don’t forget, Go BLUE

          Being new here I don’t get the Go Blue reference?

          ChefC Offline
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          Chef
          Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
          wrote on last edited by
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          AndyHCMC On a serious note, it is just a friendly competition of Orange which is Austin team, and the Blue which is Jonathon team. Just healthy fun.
          Now on a practical note, Blue Team Rules. It has the most awesome members, the most knowledgeable members, a true team leader, i.e. Jonathon, and the Blue team RULES. Blue team even picks up the slack from the Orange team. And in addition, the blue caps look better on most people than the orange caps.

          It really is all about fun. This community is wonderful.

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          • ChefC Chef

            AndyHCMC On a serious note, it is just a friendly competition of Orange which is Austin team, and the Blue which is Jonathon team. Just healthy fun.
            Now on a practical note, Blue Team Rules. It has the most awesome members, the most knowledgeable members, a true team leader, i.e. Jonathon, and the Blue team RULES. Blue team even picks up the slack from the Orange team. And in addition, the blue caps look better on most people than the orange caps.

            It really is all about fun. This community is wonderful.

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            badfire2625
            Team Orange Regular Contributors Dry Cured Sausage
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            Chef c’mon. Don’t lead people astray. Orange is clearly the best team. Blue is the best of the rest… and orange caps rock. On a more serious note, happy new year. I hope each and every one of you, including the blue team has the best year of your lives! BE3FEB0F-B507-45FA-A503-59AFB7374227.jpeg

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            • AndyHCMCA AndyHCMC

              Hi,
              Australian living in HCMC Vietnam, had a electric cheap mincer/stuffer for a couple of months, made a couple of below average batches of pork sausages just bought a 3kg/7lb 2 speed stuffer.

              I made some more pork sausages and I have a leaking problem with the meat when I stuff, I was using the 15mm tube and 20mm casings it blows out on the right hand side.

              I live in a smallish apartment so limited in equipment storage and usage, would love to make snack sticks but no way I could use a smoker in the apartment, I do have a 50l benchtop oven is there anyway I could use this to make more than just breakfast sausage?

              Could anyone point me in the right direction to head next to learn info on the above points?

              Thank you.

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              YooperDog
              Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
              wrote on last edited by
              #596

              AndyHCMC welcome to the site. Is the blowout happening during stuffing or cooking/smoking? Lots of knowledge on both teams, orangeundefined and blue undefined . But the secret is Team Orange rules.

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                AndyHCMC
                wrote on last edited by
                #597

                Orange & Blue, well I do like Blue and Orange sounds a bit gay wasn’t Red available? hahaha
                I stuffed into natural sheeps casings and they blow during cooking even at 100c/202f which is the lowest on my induction cooker I’ve tried no oil and a little oil, they split or blow out the ends, I even took meat out of casings and stuffed again loose and did the links with 1/2 twists so room to expand, they still blow.

                Now I’m new to sausage making so no screaming at me, the only breadcrumbs I have are panko breadcrumbs - here in Vietnam all the local bread is stuffed with sugar and no way do I like sugar tasting sausages so thats all I have I can buy local.

                I think the panko crumbs are swelling up as soon as the heat hits the water and fat? but as I said I’m new to it all.

                I linked the sausages I made and put them in the freezer maybe I can slow cook them in the oven or boil first ?

                Over to you experts,

                Oh the recipe I used was for Lincolnshire sausages
                1kg pork
                250g fat
                250g panko breadcrumbs
                250ml iced water
                spices pepper salt

                New to sausage making, love snack sticks, breakfast sausage, jerky.
                Equipment: cheap mixer/stuffer, 3L/7lb 2 speed stuffer.
                Live in an apartment so limited room and only have a benchtop 50L convection oven & kitchen aid mixer.

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                • AustinA Austin

                  Welcome to Meatgistics!

                  This is a great place to begin your posting in the Meatgistics community.
                  Let everyone know who you are, plus find out more about others.

                  You only have to share what you feel comfortable with others knowing, but some ideas for your first post…

                  Where are you from (city/state)?

                  How much experience do you have in meat processing or smoking/grilling?

                  What is your favorite meat snack or seasoning flavor?

                  What is your current smoker or grill?

                  Other than that, have fun, and we are excited to have you apart of the Meatgistics community!

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                  Boarsnset
                  Team Blue
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                  #598

                  Austin Boarsnest here from west Central Ill.

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                  • AndyHCMCA AndyHCMC

                    Orange & Blue, well I do like Blue and Orange sounds a bit gay wasn’t Red available? hahaha
                    I stuffed into natural sheeps casings and they blow during cooking even at 100c/202f which is the lowest on my induction cooker I’ve tried no oil and a little oil, they split or blow out the ends, I even took meat out of casings and stuffed again loose and did the links with 1/2 twists so room to expand, they still blow.

                    Now I’m new to sausage making so no screaming at me, the only breadcrumbs I have are panko breadcrumbs - here in Vietnam all the local bread is stuffed with sugar and no way do I like sugar tasting sausages so thats all I have I can buy local.

                    I think the panko crumbs are swelling up as soon as the heat hits the water and fat? but as I said I’m new to it all.

                    I linked the sausages I made and put them in the freezer maybe I can slow cook them in the oven or boil first ?

                    Over to you experts,

                    Oh the recipe I used was for Lincolnshire sausages
                    1kg pork
                    250g fat
                    250g panko breadcrumbs
                    250ml iced water
                    spices pepper salt

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                    YooperDog
                    Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #599

                    AndyHCMC have you tried using less panko, maybe break the flakes into smaller particles? I have never used panko in a sausage recipe. Par boiling might help. Anyone else have any ideas?

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                    • B Boarsnset

                      Austin Boarsnest here from west Central Ill.

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                      YooperDog
                      Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #600

                      Boarsnset welcome to the site. Take advantage of all the experience here. Be willing to share your experience. Go Team Orangeundefined

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                        Jonathon
                        Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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                        #601

                        AndyHCMC You can make snack sticks/pepperoni/summer sausage in your oven. To get a smoke flavor I’d recommend you use hickory smoke powder or the like. There has to be something like that available over in Vitenam? If not be careful using any liquid smoke. In meat processing sometimes it is used by smokers to spray onto the sticks so if you get that stuff it is often concentrate so you could easily add too much smoke flavor and overpower anything else. Experiment with propping your oven door to see if you can bleed off heat and stabilize the top or bottom rack at 120-130 or something around that?

                        Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                        • JonathonJ Jonathon

                          AndyHCMC You can make snack sticks/pepperoni/summer sausage in your oven. To get a smoke flavor I’d recommend you use hickory smoke powder or the like. There has to be something like that available over in Vitenam? If not be careful using any liquid smoke. In meat processing sometimes it is used by smokers to spray onto the sticks so if you get that stuff it is often concentrate so you could easily add too much smoke flavor and overpower anything else. Experiment with propping your oven door to see if you can bleed off heat and stabilize the top or bottom rack at 120-130 or something around that?

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                          AndyHCMC
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                          Jonathon said in Roll Call (Start Here First):

                          AndyHCMC You can make snack sticks/pepperoni/summer sausage in your oven. To get a smoke flavor I’d recommend you use hickory smoke powder or the like. There has to be something like that available over in Vitenam? If not be careful using any liquid smoke. In meat processing sometimes it is used by smokers to spray onto the sticks so if you get that stuff it is often concentrate so you could easily add too much smoke flavor and overpower anything else. Experiment with propping your oven door to see if you can bleed off heat and stabilize the top or bottom rack at 120-130 or something around that?

                          120-130 f or c? My benchtop is in C it goes down to around 60C then up to 250C
                          Its a Sanaky model VH-5099S2D, it has a control for bottom & top heating elements and combination plus with ot without fan.

                          New to sausage making, love snack sticks, breakfast sausage, jerky.
                          Equipment: cheap mixer/stuffer, 3L/7lb 2 speed stuffer.
                          Live in an apartment so limited room and only have a benchtop 50L convection oven & kitchen aid mixer.

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                            AndyHCMC
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                            #603

                            I also have a home bench mixer for cake, bread making with a dough hook and k blade for cake mixing could this be used for small 2-4lb batch meat mixing for protein extraction?

                            New to sausage making, love snack sticks, breakfast sausage, jerky.
                            Equipment: cheap mixer/stuffer, 3L/7lb 2 speed stuffer.
                            Live in an apartment so limited room and only have a benchtop 50L convection oven & kitchen aid mixer.

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                              Boarsnset
                              Team Blue
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                              hello for illinois

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                                Boarsnset
                                Team Blue
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                                #605

                                Hello All, Have a question.
                                I’m going to smoke 3 three 13 lbs Turkeys at same time in smoker. I’ll be using A pre-made dry Brine mix that calls for mix and 1 gallon of water. Of course I’ll have to use more water, do I triple the brine mix ???

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                                • B Boarsnset

                                  Austin Boarsnest here from west Central Ill.

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                                  cdavis
                                  Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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                                  Boarsnset welcome aboard glad to have you here. I invite you to join team blue you will be happy with your choice.

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                                  • B Boarsnset

                                    Hello All, Have a question.
                                    I’m going to smoke 3 three 13 lbs Turkeys at same time in smoker. I’ll be using A pre-made dry Brine mix that calls for mix and 1 gallon of water. Of course I’ll have to use more water, do I triple the brine mix ???

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                                    YooperDog
                                    Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #607

                                    Boarsnset welcome to the site. If you are making a brine make enough to fully cover the birds. Make the brine according to the directions,
                                    example, so if it calls for 1 cup mix to a gallon and a gallon doesn’t cover your birds make another gallon or what is needed to cover the birds. Go Team Orangeundefined

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                                      Boarsnset
                                      Team Blue
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                                      Thanks, I agree .

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                                        Jonathon
                                        Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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                                        AndyHCMC Sorry, everything we do is in F. The only thing we do in C is the rule of 15 for inedible collagen and that is 15 minute soaker in 15 degrre water that is a 15% strength salt solution!

                                        Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                                          AndyHCMC Sorry, everything we do is in F. The only thing we do in C is the rule of 15 for inedible collagen and that is 15 minute soaker in 15 degrre water that is a 15% strength salt solution!

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                                          #610

                                          Jonathon said in Roll Call (Start Here First):

                                          AndyHCMC Sorry, everything we do is in F. The only thing we do in C is the rule of 15 for inedible collagen and that is 15 minute soaker in 15 degrre water that is a 15% strength salt solution!

                                          I have just ordered a thermocouple for my digital thermometer gun I’ll turn it on to min and leave for 30 min and see what it goes down to.

                                          Meanwhile I’ve watched your video on making snack sticks, curing salt - i’ve managed to find online here curing salt no1# & smoke powder but so far I cant find any mention of ECA only bags of citric acid, there is not a great need for shops for sausage making here except casings (they only sell white or yellow in collagen and sheeps /hogs natural) due to the locals making their own variety of chinese style just about all sausages are imported and sold in gourmet butchers, any ideas on what I can use instead of the ECA? There are no pre made spice mix packs that everyone on the forum mentions that I can find, anyone have a list of fresh/dried spices I can use instead?

                                          New to sausage making, love snack sticks, breakfast sausage, jerky.
                                          Equipment: cheap mixer/stuffer, 3L/7lb 2 speed stuffer.
                                          Live in an apartment so limited room and only have a benchtop 50L convection oven & kitchen aid mixer.

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