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  • elisseE elisse

    Any links to recipes, techniques, and what supplies I may need to buy would be REALLY appreciated! As there is no processor near us, I have a feeling hubs is going to wind up cutting up Ms. Frozen Elk himself, using our saw… He did that with moose, when he was stationed up in Alaska, but that was decades ago- and elk isn’t moose. LOL

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    Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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    elisse My first two sausages were breakfast and Italian. Both simple. The breakfast Excalibur Holly Regular Pork Sausage is a fantastic formula. I do make two version with one just adding a bit of red pepper flake. The italian sausage seasoning is good as well.

    I do not like collagen casing, but that’s me personally. I use 22 - 24 mm sheep casing for breakfast and 32-35 mm hog for italian.

    With these two as a start, you really only need a grinder and a stuffer. I have never liked stuffing with a grinder. You have to decide the volume you are looking at making, will you sell it commercially? I think a #22 grinder would be a good place to start. As far as stuffers go, don’t go cheap. It takes a lot of work to stuff sausage, especially smaller link like breakfast of snack sticks. A good stuffer makes it effortless and it can hold up against the excessive forces placed on a stuffer. Again, size would depend on the volume you plan on producing. There are many other ‘nice to have’ but with his experience he likely has a lot of things he would need. The goodies will come with time.

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      marvsBBQ
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      I also would add if you are looking to purchase equipment as in a grinder, get the most HP you can afford but bear in mind, the more HP the more it costs
      As stuffers go, I had the water stuffer that worked great but takes a bit of planning ahead as you have to hook a hose up to it.
      I purchased my grinder (3/4 HP) for a little under $500 from Cabelas and the stuffer I ordered on line.
      I gave all of my sausage making equipment to my son in WA state when I moved to Texas because it was going to just be my wife and I and she is not a big sausage fan.
      I must say though there is no shortage of sausage varieties available anywhere you go in Texas

      Where rumors end and a legend begins

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        AndyHCMC
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        #590

        Hi,
        Australian living in HCMC Vietnam, had a electric cheap mincer/stuffer for a couple of months, made a couple of below average batches of pork sausages just bought a 3kg/7lb 2 speed stuffer.

        I made some more pork sausages and I have a leaking problem with the meat when I stuff, I was using the 15mm tube and 20mm casings it blows out on the right hand side.

        I live in a smallish apartment so limited in equipment storage and usage, would love to make snack sticks but no way I could use a smoker in the apartment, I do have a 50l benchtop oven is there anyway I could use this to make more than just breakfast sausage?

        Could anyone point me in the right direction to head next to learn info on the above points?

        Thank you.

        New to sausage making, love snack sticks, breakfast sausage, jerky.
        Equipment: cheap mixer/stuffer, 3L/7lb 2 speed stuffer.
        Live in an apartment so limited room and only have a benchtop 50L convection oven & kitchen aid mixer.

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        • AndyHCMCA AndyHCMC

          Hi,
          Australian living in HCMC Vietnam, had a electric cheap mincer/stuffer for a couple of months, made a couple of below average batches of pork sausages just bought a 3kg/7lb 2 speed stuffer.

          I made some more pork sausages and I have a leaking problem with the meat when I stuff, I was using the 15mm tube and 20mm casings it blows out on the right hand side.

          I live in a smallish apartment so limited in equipment storage and usage, would love to make snack sticks but no way I could use a smoker in the apartment, I do have a 50l benchtop oven is there anyway I could use this to make more than just breakfast sausage?

          Could anyone point me in the right direction to head next to learn info on the above points?

          Thank you.

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          calldoctoday
          Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
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          #591

          AndyHCMC Ahoa there, Welcome aboard. That must be quite an experience. What brought you to Saigon? I have cheated in years past when smoking in the cold winter by using a smoke box in the oven. It really was not that bad & my wife had no issue with it, so it could not be so bad. Could you indeed try using your oven at a lower heat setting than even 225/250 & use the smoke box or even a smoke pan? I hope the idea helps. & don’t forget, Go BLUE. Have a much better new year.

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          • C calldoctoday

            AndyHCMC Ahoa there, Welcome aboard. That must be quite an experience. What brought you to Saigon? I have cheated in years past when smoking in the cold winter by using a smoke box in the oven. It really was not that bad & my wife had no issue with it, so it could not be so bad. Could you indeed try using your oven at a lower heat setting than even 225/250 & use the smoke box or even a smoke pan? I hope the idea helps. & don’t forget, Go BLUE. Have a much better new year.

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            AndyHCMC
            wrote on last edited by
            #592

            calldoctoday said in Roll Call (Start Here First):

            & don’t forget, Go BLUE

            Being new here I don’t get the Go Blue reference?

            New to sausage making, love snack sticks, breakfast sausage, jerky.
            Equipment: cheap mixer/stuffer, 3L/7lb 2 speed stuffer.
            Live in an apartment so limited room and only have a benchtop 50L convection oven & kitchen aid mixer.

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            • AndyHCMCA AndyHCMC

              calldoctoday said in Roll Call (Start Here First):

              & don’t forget, Go BLUE

              Being new here I don’t get the Go Blue reference?

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              badfire2625
              Team Orange Regular Contributors Dry Cured Sausage
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              #593

              AndyHCMC yep. Go. Away. Far. 😂🤣

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              • AndyHCMCA AndyHCMC

                calldoctoday said in Roll Call (Start Here First):

                & don’t forget, Go BLUE

                Being new here I don’t get the Go Blue reference?

                ChefC Offline
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                Chef
                Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
                wrote on last edited by
                #594

                AndyHCMC On a serious note, it is just a friendly competition of Orange which is Austin team, and the Blue which is Jonathon team. Just healthy fun.
                Now on a practical note, Blue Team Rules. It has the most awesome members, the most knowledgeable members, a true team leader, i.e. Jonathon, and the Blue team RULES. Blue team even picks up the slack from the Orange team. And in addition, the blue caps look better on most people than the orange caps.

                It really is all about fun. This community is wonderful.

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                • ChefC Chef

                  AndyHCMC On a serious note, it is just a friendly competition of Orange which is Austin team, and the Blue which is Jonathon team. Just healthy fun.
                  Now on a practical note, Blue Team Rules. It has the most awesome members, the most knowledgeable members, a true team leader, i.e. Jonathon, and the Blue team RULES. Blue team even picks up the slack from the Orange team. And in addition, the blue caps look better on most people than the orange caps.

                  It really is all about fun. This community is wonderful.

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                  badfire2625
                  Team Orange Regular Contributors Dry Cured Sausage
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                  #595

                  Chef c’mon. Don’t lead people astray. Orange is clearly the best team. Blue is the best of the rest… and orange caps rock. On a more serious note, happy new year. I hope each and every one of you, including the blue team has the best year of your lives! BE3FEB0F-B507-45FA-A503-59AFB7374227.jpeg

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                  • AndyHCMCA AndyHCMC

                    Hi,
                    Australian living in HCMC Vietnam, had a electric cheap mincer/stuffer for a couple of months, made a couple of below average batches of pork sausages just bought a 3kg/7lb 2 speed stuffer.

                    I made some more pork sausages and I have a leaking problem with the meat when I stuff, I was using the 15mm tube and 20mm casings it blows out on the right hand side.

                    I live in a smallish apartment so limited in equipment storage and usage, would love to make snack sticks but no way I could use a smoker in the apartment, I do have a 50l benchtop oven is there anyway I could use this to make more than just breakfast sausage?

                    Could anyone point me in the right direction to head next to learn info on the above points?

                    Thank you.

                    YooperDogY Offline
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                    YooperDog
                    Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #596

                    AndyHCMC welcome to the site. Is the blowout happening during stuffing or cooking/smoking? Lots of knowledge on both teams, orangeundefined and blue undefined . But the secret is Team Orange rules.

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                      AndyHCMC
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #597

                      Orange & Blue, well I do like Blue and Orange sounds a bit gay wasn’t Red available? hahaha
                      I stuffed into natural sheeps casings and they blow during cooking even at 100c/202f which is the lowest on my induction cooker I’ve tried no oil and a little oil, they split or blow out the ends, I even took meat out of casings and stuffed again loose and did the links with 1/2 twists so room to expand, they still blow.

                      Now I’m new to sausage making so no screaming at me, the only breadcrumbs I have are panko breadcrumbs - here in Vietnam all the local bread is stuffed with sugar and no way do I like sugar tasting sausages so thats all I have I can buy local.

                      I think the panko crumbs are swelling up as soon as the heat hits the water and fat? but as I said I’m new to it all.

                      I linked the sausages I made and put them in the freezer maybe I can slow cook them in the oven or boil first ?

                      Over to you experts,

                      Oh the recipe I used was for Lincolnshire sausages
                      1kg pork
                      250g fat
                      250g panko breadcrumbs
                      250ml iced water
                      spices pepper salt

                      New to sausage making, love snack sticks, breakfast sausage, jerky.
                      Equipment: cheap mixer/stuffer, 3L/7lb 2 speed stuffer.
                      Live in an apartment so limited room and only have a benchtop 50L convection oven & kitchen aid mixer.

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                      • AustinA Austin

                        Welcome to Meatgistics!

                        This is a great place to begin your posting in the Meatgistics community.
                        Let everyone know who you are, plus find out more about others.

                        You only have to share what you feel comfortable with others knowing, but some ideas for your first post…

                        Where are you from (city/state)?

                        How much experience do you have in meat processing or smoking/grilling?

                        What is your favorite meat snack or seasoning flavor?

                        What is your current smoker or grill?

                        Other than that, have fun, and we are excited to have you apart of the Meatgistics community!

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                        Boarsnset
                        Team Blue
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #598

                        Austin Boarsnest here from west Central Ill.

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                        • AndyHCMCA AndyHCMC

                          Orange & Blue, well I do like Blue and Orange sounds a bit gay wasn’t Red available? hahaha
                          I stuffed into natural sheeps casings and they blow during cooking even at 100c/202f which is the lowest on my induction cooker I’ve tried no oil and a little oil, they split or blow out the ends, I even took meat out of casings and stuffed again loose and did the links with 1/2 twists so room to expand, they still blow.

                          Now I’m new to sausage making so no screaming at me, the only breadcrumbs I have are panko breadcrumbs - here in Vietnam all the local bread is stuffed with sugar and no way do I like sugar tasting sausages so thats all I have I can buy local.

                          I think the panko crumbs are swelling up as soon as the heat hits the water and fat? but as I said I’m new to it all.

                          I linked the sausages I made and put them in the freezer maybe I can slow cook them in the oven or boil first ?

                          Over to you experts,

                          Oh the recipe I used was for Lincolnshire sausages
                          1kg pork
                          250g fat
                          250g panko breadcrumbs
                          250ml iced water
                          spices pepper salt

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                          YooperDog
                          Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #599

                          AndyHCMC have you tried using less panko, maybe break the flakes into smaller particles? I have never used panko in a sausage recipe. Par boiling might help. Anyone else have any ideas?

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                          • B Boarsnset

                            Austin Boarsnest here from west Central Ill.

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                            YooperDog
                            Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
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                            Boarsnset welcome to the site. Take advantage of all the experience here. Be willing to share your experience. Go Team Orangeundefined

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                              Jonathon
                              Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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                              AndyHCMC You can make snack sticks/pepperoni/summer sausage in your oven. To get a smoke flavor I’d recommend you use hickory smoke powder or the like. There has to be something like that available over in Vitenam? If not be careful using any liquid smoke. In meat processing sometimes it is used by smokers to spray onto the sticks so if you get that stuff it is often concentrate so you could easily add too much smoke flavor and overpower anything else. Experiment with propping your oven door to see if you can bleed off heat and stabilize the top or bottom rack at 120-130 or something around that?

                              Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                                AndyHCMC You can make snack sticks/pepperoni/summer sausage in your oven. To get a smoke flavor I’d recommend you use hickory smoke powder or the like. There has to be something like that available over in Vitenam? If not be careful using any liquid smoke. In meat processing sometimes it is used by smokers to spray onto the sticks so if you get that stuff it is often concentrate so you could easily add too much smoke flavor and overpower anything else. Experiment with propping your oven door to see if you can bleed off heat and stabilize the top or bottom rack at 120-130 or something around that?

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                                AndyHCMC
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                                Jonathon said in Roll Call (Start Here First):

                                AndyHCMC You can make snack sticks/pepperoni/summer sausage in your oven. To get a smoke flavor I’d recommend you use hickory smoke powder or the like. There has to be something like that available over in Vitenam? If not be careful using any liquid smoke. In meat processing sometimes it is used by smokers to spray onto the sticks so if you get that stuff it is often concentrate so you could easily add too much smoke flavor and overpower anything else. Experiment with propping your oven door to see if you can bleed off heat and stabilize the top or bottom rack at 120-130 or something around that?

                                120-130 f or c? My benchtop is in C it goes down to around 60C then up to 250C
                                Its a Sanaky model VH-5099S2D, it has a control for bottom & top heating elements and combination plus with ot without fan.

                                New to sausage making, love snack sticks, breakfast sausage, jerky.
                                Equipment: cheap mixer/stuffer, 3L/7lb 2 speed stuffer.
                                Live in an apartment so limited room and only have a benchtop 50L convection oven & kitchen aid mixer.

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                                  #603

                                  I also have a home bench mixer for cake, bread making with a dough hook and k blade for cake mixing could this be used for small 2-4lb batch meat mixing for protein extraction?

                                  New to sausage making, love snack sticks, breakfast sausage, jerky.
                                  Equipment: cheap mixer/stuffer, 3L/7lb 2 speed stuffer.
                                  Live in an apartment so limited room and only have a benchtop 50L convection oven & kitchen aid mixer.

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                                    Boarsnset
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                                    hello for illinois

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                                      Boarsnset
                                      Team Blue
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                                      Hello All, Have a question.
                                      I’m going to smoke 3 three 13 lbs Turkeys at same time in smoker. I’ll be using A pre-made dry Brine mix that calls for mix and 1 gallon of water. Of course I’ll have to use more water, do I triple the brine mix ???

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                                      • B Boarsnset

                                        Austin Boarsnest here from west Central Ill.

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                                        cdavis
                                        Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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                                        Boarsnset welcome aboard glad to have you here. I invite you to join team blue you will be happy with your choice.

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                                        • B Boarsnset

                                          Hello All, Have a question.
                                          I’m going to smoke 3 three 13 lbs Turkeys at same time in smoker. I’ll be using A pre-made dry Brine mix that calls for mix and 1 gallon of water. Of course I’ll have to use more water, do I triple the brine mix ???

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                                          YooperDog
                                          Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #607

                                          Boarsnset welcome to the site. If you are making a brine make enough to fully cover the birds. Make the brine according to the directions,
                                          example, so if it calls for 1 cup mix to a gallon and a gallon doesn’t cover your birds make another gallon or what is needed to cover the birds. Go Team Orangeundefined

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