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Add a little sweetness to my cured summer sausage

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    DarrellT
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    Yes, sweet bologna is the goal. But sweet summer sausage. But without the acetate.

    Will post how it turns out after I cook it tomorrow.

    Thank you to those that responded

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    • Mean DeanM Mean Dean

      When I make sweet summer sausage (beef meat block) I use 1 lb dark brown sugar to 10 lbs meat.

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      cdavis
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      Mean Dean you’ve got me interested. I’ll have to try this out.

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      • D DarrellT

        Yes, sweet bologna is the goal. But sweet summer sausage. But without the acetate.

        Will post how it turns out after I cook it tomorrow.

        Thank you to those that responded

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        mrobisr
        Team Blue Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
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        DarrellT said in Add a little sweetness to my cured summer sausage:

        Yes, sweet bologna is the goal. But sweet summer sausage. But without the acetate.

        Will post how it turns out after I cook it tomorrow.

        Thank you to those that responded

        Please let us know how it turns out, my curiosity is killing me.

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          Mean Dean
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          I worked up to that 10% dark brown sugar for the sweet bologna. It gave the taste I remembered eating as a kid. I’m now making it using a different process using F-LC fermentation and dextrose, then 48-60 hours of continuous smoke at no more than 75 degrees. It also requires the use of an accurate pH meter to ensure the levels are safe. But that process is a lot more detailed and temperatures are more critical, not to mention the time it takes to make a batch. Making the summer sausage version with cure, sugar and ECA get close to the same flavor as the fermented version, but with a lot less involved in time and equipment. Leave the ECA out if you don’t want the tang, and only the sweetness.

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          • mrobisrM mrobisr

            Departing Contestant Sugar is better for the red color of cured meat, but I have to use the dextrose in some of my fermented sausages depending on the culture.

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            mrobisr I understand completely. You got to give those little germs. Something to eat

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            • Mean DeanM Mean Dean

              I worked up to that 10% dark brown sugar for the sweet bologna. It gave the taste I remembered eating as a kid. I’m now making it using a different process using F-LC fermentation and dextrose, then 48-60 hours of continuous smoke at no more than 75 degrees. It also requires the use of an accurate pH meter to ensure the levels are safe. But that process is a lot more detailed and temperatures are more critical, not to mention the time it takes to make a batch. Making the summer sausage version with cure, sugar and ECA get close to the same flavor as the fermented version, but with a lot less involved in time and equipment. Leave the ECA out if you don’t want the tang, and only the sweetness.

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              cdavis
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              Mean Dean thanks 😊

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                I am a frequent user of the H-unit Summer Sausage recipe. I want to add a little sweetness to the taste. Can I add sugar cure or just some kind of sugar to the recipe? What kind of sugar and how much to change the taste. I know it’s trial and error to find the taste I want. But I may get closer and avoid pitfalls by asking questions. Thanks

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                Mean Dean
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                DarrellT Darrell - did you make that sweet sausage/bologna? How did it turn out for you? Curious. PM me or post. I’m sure others are curious too.

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                  DarrellT
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                  Hello,
                  Thank you for following up.
                  I made a 5lb batch.
                  H-unit and cure per recipe
                  White sugar - 2oz

                  Cooked until internal temp of 160 degrees
                  Quenched to stop cooking
                  Refrigerate overnight.

                  Let hang in basement 6 days after cook.

                  Taste- I could taste a small hint of sweet compared to non-sweetened sausage. But not enough. I think increase sugar 3-fold.

                  Note: I added sugar to my seasoning and got nervous that I was adding too much sugar. But this is a work in progress. I will get closer next time.

                  Thanks again
                  Darrell

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                  • D DarrellT

                    Hello,
                    Thank you for following up.
                    I made a 5lb batch.
                    H-unit and cure per recipe
                    White sugar - 2oz

                    Cooked until internal temp of 160 degrees
                    Quenched to stop cooking
                    Refrigerate overnight.

                    Let hang in basement 6 days after cook.

                    Taste- I could taste a small hint of sweet compared to non-sweetened sausage. But not enough. I think increase sugar 3-fold.

                    Note: I added sugar to my seasoning and got nervous that I was adding too much sugar. But this is a work in progress. I will get closer next time.

                    Thanks again
                    Darrell

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                    Mean Dean
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                    DarrellT
                    I found that 10% by weight seemed to be best for my taste. I did make a batch with 20%, which was way to sweet for me, but the friend I made it for likes that percentage, and I’ve made it twice for them. The white sugar tends to have a sweeter taste, I use dark brown sugar, for what that’s worth. I may try Turbinado sugar - the larger granular type used on top of pastries to see what difference that makes. Part of the fun is experimenting with new things. Hope you find what makes your taste buds happy!

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                      congo
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                      Here’s a thought lol. I take the Turbinado sugar and smoke the crap out of it. 125deg with heavenly amounts of smoke. When I figure it’s had enough, I smoke it for another hour lol. After cooling, I put it in a regular shaker. I use it with addition of regular seasoning on pork chops, chicken, jalapeño poppers, bacon, you name it it’s all good on the grill! Anyway, I bet that would be delicious in summer sausage. Thanks for the idea, I’m trying it on the next round

                      Thank You

                      Duane

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                      • C congo

                        Here’s a thought lol. I take the Turbinado sugar and smoke the crap out of it. 125deg with heavenly amounts of smoke. When I figure it’s had enough, I smoke it for another hour lol. After cooling, I put it in a regular shaker. I use it with addition of regular seasoning on pork chops, chicken, jalapeño poppers, bacon, you name it it’s all good on the grill! Anyway, I bet that would be delicious in summer sausage. Thanks for the idea, I’m trying it on the next round

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                        congo I’ll have to give the smoked Turbinado sugar a try. I can see many places to use it. Thanx for putting that out there.

                        Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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                        • Bob StehlikB Bob Stehlik

                          congo I’ll have to give the smoked Turbinado sugar a try. I can see many places to use it. Thanx for putting that out there.

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                          Bob Stehlik yeah, even an Old Fashioned

                          “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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