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  • Dave in AZD Offline
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    Dave in AZ
    Military Veterans Sous Vide Canning Traeger Regular Contributors Power User
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Hi, I am looking for info and feedback from folks who have made pepperoni with their own known spices, not a purchased blend. I am preparing to make my first fermented semi-dry pepperoni, and want to use my own spices. I will be using methodology and recipes from Marianski’s book Art of Making Fermented Sausages, and their Home Production of Quality Meats and Sausages. They list a good looking recipe, but google gives me recipes listing 5 to 10 other spices, mostly in 20 or so fairly weak looking "make pepperoni " pages that all look like 1st time producers blogging it. There are many comments listing tons of spices with things like “make it to your own taste!” but little if any indication that anyone actually ever tried these spices and systematically reported on how they taste in finished product… the top 20 or 30 Google results have all looked like low info BS 😞

    I used search and read every thread on here about pepperoni, 22 title threads, many hundreds of posts. Most of them were for pepperoni snack sticks and all of them appeared to use a seasoning blend from Walton’s.

    The Marianski’s recipe for fast fermented uses
    Black pepper
    Anise (or fennel)
    Paprika
    Cayenne pepper
    F-LC fast fermented semidry (OR T-SPX slow fermented dry.)

    Some pages I don’t see proof of production
    on, and don’t really believe have made what they are writing about, list these other spices:
    Coriander
    Allspice
    Nutmeg
    Cinnamon
    Cloves
    Mustard seed
    Garlic
    Red wine.
    –the Spruce Eats, bogus instructions, no culture, cure accelerator left overnight, saltpeter, incorrect temp/humidity to achieve USFDA pathogen targets… they talk about not infecting yourself with trichinonsis by handling raw pork, then ignore all pathogens and raw meat hanging 5 months issues.
    –tasteOfArtisan dot com. This guy has a great page, says everything right, references Marianski’s books. Best page I’ve found, and he obviously makes it. He lists allspice with Marianski’s ingredients… I smell it, and just don’t recognize the scent and flavor of allspice with Hormel or Galliano pepperoni I buy?

    Anyhoo, those are the main references I have, looking for taste and spice recipe feedback from folks who have made or eaten known spice recipes.
    Thanks!!

    McjaggerM mrobisrM 2 Replies Last reply
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    • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

      Hi, I am looking for info and feedback from folks who have made pepperoni with their own known spices, not a purchased blend. I am preparing to make my first fermented semi-dry pepperoni, and want to use my own spices. I will be using methodology and recipes from Marianski’s book Art of Making Fermented Sausages, and their Home Production of Quality Meats and Sausages. They list a good looking recipe, but google gives me recipes listing 5 to 10 other spices, mostly in 20 or so fairly weak looking "make pepperoni " pages that all look like 1st time producers blogging it. There are many comments listing tons of spices with things like “make it to your own taste!” but little if any indication that anyone actually ever tried these spices and systematically reported on how they taste in finished product… the top 20 or 30 Google results have all looked like low info BS 😞

      I used search and read every thread on here about pepperoni, 22 title threads, many hundreds of posts. Most of them were for pepperoni snack sticks and all of them appeared to use a seasoning blend from Walton’s.

      The Marianski’s recipe for fast fermented uses
      Black pepper
      Anise (or fennel)
      Paprika
      Cayenne pepper
      F-LC fast fermented semidry (OR T-SPX slow fermented dry.)

      Some pages I don’t see proof of production
      on, and don’t really believe have made what they are writing about, list these other spices:
      Coriander
      Allspice
      Nutmeg
      Cinnamon
      Cloves
      Mustard seed
      Garlic
      Red wine.
      –the Spruce Eats, bogus instructions, no culture, cure accelerator left overnight, saltpeter, incorrect temp/humidity to achieve USFDA pathogen targets… they talk about not infecting yourself with trichinonsis by handling raw pork, then ignore all pathogens and raw meat hanging 5 months issues.
      –tasteOfArtisan dot com. This guy has a great page, says everything right, references Marianski’s books. Best page I’ve found, and he obviously makes it. He lists allspice with Marianski’s ingredients… I smell it, and just don’t recognize the scent and flavor of allspice with Hormel or Galliano pepperoni I buy?

      Anyhoo, those are the main references I have, looking for taste and spice recipe feedback from folks who have made or eaten known spice recipes.
      Thanks!!

      McjaggerM Offline
      McjaggerM Offline
      Mcjagger
      Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt PK100
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Dave in AZ …check out 2 guys and a cooler youtube channel…there are tons of recipes and step by step instructions and scaleable recipe page

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      • McjaggerM Mcjagger

        Dave in AZ …check out 2 guys and a cooler youtube channel…there are tons of recipes and step by step instructions and scaleable recipe page

        Dave in AZD Offline
        Dave in AZD Offline
        Dave in AZ
        Military Veterans Sous Vide Canning Traeger Regular Contributors Power User
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Mcjagger thx, will look into them! I didn’t do YouTube search, I should have looked there also!

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        • Mean DeanM Offline
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          Mean Dean
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          #4

          X2 on the Two Guys and a Cooler You Tube channel. Eric is very knowledgeable and I’ve made more than one of his recipes. I believe he has one for pepperoni as well.

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          • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

            Hi, I am looking for info and feedback from folks who have made pepperoni with their own known spices, not a purchased blend. I am preparing to make my first fermented semi-dry pepperoni, and want to use my own spices. I will be using methodology and recipes from Marianski’s book Art of Making Fermented Sausages, and their Home Production of Quality Meats and Sausages. They list a good looking recipe, but google gives me recipes listing 5 to 10 other spices, mostly in 20 or so fairly weak looking "make pepperoni " pages that all look like 1st time producers blogging it. There are many comments listing tons of spices with things like “make it to your own taste!” but little if any indication that anyone actually ever tried these spices and systematically reported on how they taste in finished product… the top 20 or 30 Google results have all looked like low info BS 😞

            I used search and read every thread on here about pepperoni, 22 title threads, many hundreds of posts. Most of them were for pepperoni snack sticks and all of them appeared to use a seasoning blend from Walton’s.

            The Marianski’s recipe for fast fermented uses
            Black pepper
            Anise (or fennel)
            Paprika
            Cayenne pepper
            F-LC fast fermented semidry (OR T-SPX slow fermented dry.)

            Some pages I don’t see proof of production
            on, and don’t really believe have made what they are writing about, list these other spices:
            Coriander
            Allspice
            Nutmeg
            Cinnamon
            Cloves
            Mustard seed
            Garlic
            Red wine.
            –the Spruce Eats, bogus instructions, no culture, cure accelerator left overnight, saltpeter, incorrect temp/humidity to achieve USFDA pathogen targets… they talk about not infecting yourself with trichinonsis by handling raw pork, then ignore all pathogens and raw meat hanging 5 months issues.
            –tasteOfArtisan dot com. This guy has a great page, says everything right, references Marianski’s books. Best page I’ve found, and he obviously makes it. He lists allspice with Marianski’s ingredients… I smell it, and just don’t recognize the scent and flavor of allspice with Hormel or Galliano pepperoni I buy?

            Anyhoo, those are the main references I have, looking for taste and spice recipe feedback from folks who have made or eaten known spice recipes.
            Thanks!!

            mrobisrM Offline
            mrobisrM Offline
            mrobisr
            Team Blue Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
            wrote on last edited by mrobisr
            #5

            Dave in AZ
            Homemade Pepperoni Ingredients - Homemade Peperone
            750 g lean beef
            750 g pork leg
            27 g salt = 1.8%
            4 g nitrite salt (6% nitrites, 3% nitrates and 91% salt)
            4 g antioxidant (erythorbate)
            1 g bacterial starter (lactic acid bacteria for fermentation)
            6 g cayenne pepper
            1 g allspice
            1 g fennel seeds
            20 g sugar
            10 g sweet paprika
            2 g spicy paprika
            30 ml red wine

            I have not made this it is a recipe that I found on and Italian website, but Dr Pain makes pepperoni too, maybe he will add his knowledge to the post.

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            • mrobisrM mrobisr

              Dave in AZ
              Homemade Pepperoni Ingredients - Homemade Peperone
              750 g lean beef
              750 g pork leg
              27 g salt = 1.8%
              4 g nitrite salt (6% nitrites, 3% nitrates and 91% salt)
              4 g antioxidant (erythorbate)
              1 g bacterial starter (lactic acid bacteria for fermentation)
              6 g cayenne pepper
              1 g allspice
              1 g fennel seeds
              20 g sugar
              10 g sweet paprika
              2 g spicy paprika
              30 ml red wine

              I have not made this it is a recipe that I found on and Italian website, but Dr Pain makes pepperoni too, maybe he will add his knowledge to the post.

              Dave in AZD Offline
              Dave in AZD Offline
              Dave in AZ
              Military Veterans Sous Vide Canning Traeger Regular Contributors Power User
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              mrobisr thx much. I see they have the allspice listed too. Not sure what spicy paprika is though, I’ve seen sweet, smoked, spanish, hungarian… spicy paprika sounds like cayenne heh!

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              • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                mrobisr thx much. I see they have the allspice listed too. Not sure what spicy paprika is though, I’ve seen sweet, smoked, spanish, hungarian… spicy paprika sounds like cayenne heh!

                zbigjeffZ Offline
                zbigjeffZ Offline
                zbigjeff
                Sous Vide Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Cast Iron
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Dave in AZ Would think that “spicy paprika” would be Hungarian.

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                • Dr_PainD Offline
                  Dr_PainD Offline
                  Dr_Pain
                  Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  I use Eric’s recipe (2 guys and a cooler) and have had no complaints

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