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Summer sausage is there a stall?

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  • smokinbubbaS smokinbubba

    denny66 its easy. Pronounced sue v. And not expensive at all. I use an elcheapo yissvic brand from amazon. I think it was $59 or $69. I didnt want to spend big money on another kitchen gadget if it wouldnt work for my sausage addiction. Honestly, i will never make sausage without it (except fresh of course) ever again.
    Using a smoker alone can really limit you as to what can be accomplished. In my experience, anything more than 1.5" diameter was unreachable due to the verrry long smoke time. Now i am making 4" bologna and 2 5" trail bologna on a regular basis. My 4" bambi bologna was even cooked start to finish sv. No smoker required! The longer sausage stays in the smoker the more time there is for things to go wrong. Especially drying out. Cooking or finishing in water stops the drying process for obvious reasons. Plus u can use the sv cooker to cook salmon, chicken, boose. You name it

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    smokinbubba
    Sorry I didn’t mean to skip over you. I had to get clearances from Team Blue Police in order to have direct communications with a team orange. Just a jokin I wanted to cover 1 subject at a time. I’m seriously thinking of trying the sous vide method of finishing off my sausage. I might look it up on YouTube first and give a homemade rig a go first if not too complicated. Thanks for the info.

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    • denny66D denny66

      smokinbubba
      Sorry I didn’t mean to skip over you. I had to get clearances from Team Blue Police in order to have direct communications with a team orange. Just a jokin I wanted to cover 1 subject at a time. I’m seriously thinking of trying the sous vide method of finishing off my sausage. I might look it up on YouTube first and give a homemade rig a go first if not too complicated. Thanks for the info.

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      TexLaw
      Team Orange PK100 Sous Vide Power User
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      denny66 said in Summer sausage is there a stall?:

      I might look it up on YouTube first and give a homemade rig a go first if not too complicated.

      Sous vide is great because you have precise control over temperature and a bit more quicker cooking from convection from the water circulation. However, you really can get by fine just by poaching. It’s more hands-on, but it’ll probably give you a better idea if you like what sous vide does for your product.

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      • denny66D denny66

        I keep my summer sausage batches small 10-15 lbs. due to sinker capacity. I use the 2 1/2” casing and limit them to just about 2.5-2.75 lb. each. I pretty much use the time/temp increase method demonstrated in the Waltons video. I hit a stall after reaching approximately 145-150°. After reaching this temp I’m thinking I’ve about got it but at this point it seems to reach a stall similar to cooking a pork butt. It then takes me upwards of 15 hrs to bring it to the 160-165°. Is this a normal timeframe?

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        denny66 you can finish with steam get a pan of water boiling put it on your burner crank the heat all the way up close all vents will be finished a lot quicker

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          You can use a turkey roaster and it will do the same thing as a more expensive setup

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            All good advise above. The sous vide advantage is precise temp control of the water. I understand many bologna manufactures use a steam cabinet to finish. I just like my steam wetter

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              Well this is a dated thread, but I searched for it because I made come Kielbasa a few days ago and smoked them. I have been making and smoking sausage for a long time. I have never experienced a stall while smoking sausage. I have with brisket, but never sausage. I was very frustrated after attending the smoker from early in the morning until late afternoon. I finally gave up and took it out. So now I just finish cooking it as I use it. Well, reading over this thread I see that this is a common issue for some people. And I basically got the answers I needed. I hope it never happens again.

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              • smokinbubbaS smokinbubba

                If you want a quick result. Bump temp up slow. When it gets to 130deg ,finish in sous vide. You will never experience a stall ever again and can get a good nights sleep to boot.

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                smokinbubba amen

                “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                  Well this is a dated thread, but I searched for it because I made come Kielbasa a few days ago and smoked them. I have been making and smoking sausage for a long time. I have never experienced a stall while smoking sausage. I have with brisket, but never sausage. I was very frustrated after attending the smoker from early in the morning until late afternoon. I finally gave up and took it out. So now I just finish cooking it as I use it. Well, reading over this thread I see that this is a common issue for some people. And I basically got the answers I needed. I hope it never happens again.

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                  cdavis
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                  jrrrr I have a masterbuilt electric smoker and almost always have a stall. It would really be nice go through a full smoke without one.

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                    Mr. Davis,
                    Sounds like we have identical smokers and we have identical stalling problems. I don’t believe it’s our smokers because the stalling problem is to common throughout the smoking world. I’m sure there’s a logical answer for it, but I’m not smart enough to answer that question. That’s why I’m on MEATGISTICS because they’re all kinds of experienced and intelligent people on this site. A few months ago I had a similar post and everyone rushed to me with answers about the Sous Vide process. I took their advice and went and picked up a Sous Vide. It saves me countless hours and even more importantly the worries of proper internal temperature. Yesterday I had 14 pounds of summer sausage in the smoker and stalled out 130 to 135°. I vacuum sealed them all and put them in the hot water and they were all cooked evenly to the proper internal temperature. Then ice bathed them and then hung them up in my shop. My shop is at 50° so I might let them hang in there for a couple days. I took them to an internal temperature of 165°, I was reading through the posts here and it appears that a lot of folks are going to 160. Maybe someone could shed some light on that topic. If I knew how to post a picture I would post a picture of my Sous Vide set up. Hopefully this helps someone as it has helped me out a lot. Thank you all for your advice it is greatly appreciated.

                    Thank You

                    Duane

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                      Mr. Davis,
                      Sounds like we have identical smokers and we have identical stalling problems. I don’t believe it’s our smokers because the stalling problem is to common throughout the smoking world. I’m sure there’s a logical answer for it, but I’m not smart enough to answer that question. That’s why I’m on MEATGISTICS because they’re all kinds of experienced and intelligent people on this site. A few months ago I had a similar post and everyone rushed to me with answers about the Sous Vide process. I took their advice and went and picked up a Sous Vide. It saves me countless hours and even more importantly the worries of proper internal temperature. Yesterday I had 14 pounds of summer sausage in the smoker and stalled out 130 to 135°. I vacuum sealed them all and put them in the hot water and they were all cooked evenly to the proper internal temperature. Then ice bathed them and then hung them up in my shop. My shop is at 50° so I might let them hang in there for a couple days. I took them to an internal temperature of 165°, I was reading through the posts here and it appears that a lot of folks are going to 160. Maybe someone could shed some light on that topic. If I knew how to post a picture I would post a picture of my Sous Vide set up. Hopefully this helps someone as it has helped me out a lot. Thank you all for your advice it is greatly appreciated.

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                      congo I just like you have a gone the sous vide route and now get alot more sleep 😴.

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                      • cdavisC cdavis

                        jrrrr I have a masterbuilt electric smoker and almost always have a stall. It would really be nice go through a full smoke without one.

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                        Thank You

                        Duane

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                          congo very nice setup 👌. Good looking sausage too. 😋. Congrats

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                            Mr. Davis,
                            Sounds like we have identical smokers and we have identical stalling problems. I don’t believe it’s our smokers because the stalling problem is to common throughout the smoking world. I’m sure there’s a logical answer for it, but I’m not smart enough to answer that question. That’s why I’m on MEATGISTICS because they’re all kinds of experienced and intelligent people on this site. A few months ago I had a similar post and everyone rushed to me with answers about the Sous Vide process. I took their advice and went and picked up a Sous Vide. It saves me countless hours and even more importantly the worries of proper internal temperature. Yesterday I had 14 pounds of summer sausage in the smoker and stalled out 130 to 135°. I vacuum sealed them all and put them in the hot water and they were all cooked evenly to the proper internal temperature. Then ice bathed them and then hung them up in my shop. My shop is at 50° so I might let them hang in there for a couple days. I took them to an internal temperature of 165°, I was reading through the posts here and it appears that a lot of folks are going to 160. Maybe someone could shed some light on that topic. If I knew how to post a picture I would post a picture of my Sous Vide set up. Hopefully this helps someone as it has helped me out a lot. Thank you all for your advice it is greatly appreciated.

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                            congo I think because of the temp/bacteria chart, the holding time is met in the sous vide 160 easier than waiting for the stall to end and reach the 165 temp. The meat is cooked and set at 160 and you dont reach the temp where fat out might occur. Just my understanding, someone correct me if I’m wrong.

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                              Team Blue Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
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                              You can also use and induction cooktop that has temp setting and the simple water bath.

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                                congo Looks like you’ve figured this out. Those sausages look fantastic and your sous vide set up is perfect.

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                                  congo they look great.

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                                    Thank you

                                    Thank You

                                    Duane

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