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Grind and hold.

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  • samspadeS samspade

    Looking to make #25 summer sausage this weekend. I think I’m ok but just checking. Is it ok to grind all of the beef and pork and hold the uncured and unseasoned meat in the fridge over night. Then mix in batches, stuff and hold 12 hours. Then smoking in batches over the next 24 hours?

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    PapaSop
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    samspade
    Done that many times. Covered meat lug or bagged. No worries.

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      Thanks all. Cant believe I had a restless night thinking about this. Ok it’s a go for this weekend. I’ll try to post some pics.

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        mrobisr
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        It will work make no mistake, but if given the choice naturally mixing the spice and cure and letting it sit would be the best solution, but unfortunately life and time sometimes just will not allow that option, so drive on my smoky brother.

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        • samspadeS samspade

          Thanks all. Cant believe I had a restless night thinking about this. Ok it’s a go for this weekend. I’ll try to post some pics.

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          Dr_Pain
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          samspade said in Grind and hold.:

          Thanks all. Cant believe I had a restless night thinking about this. Ok it’s a go for this weekend. I’ll try to post some pics.

          Pics or it never happened LOL!

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            samspade said in Grind and hold.:

            Thanks all. Cant believe I had a restless night thinking about this. Ok it’s a go for this weekend. I’ll try to post some pics.

            Pics or it never happened LOL!

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            Dr_Pain yes it going on now. 10#, with encapsulated acid, in the smoker where it’s to dark to take a decent picture. 15# in the fridge curing for tomorrow. Here is tomorrow’s group.Screenshot_20220212-221642_Gallery.jpg

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            • samspadeS samspade

              Dr_Pain yes it going on now. 10#, with encapsulated acid, in the smoker where it’s to dark to take a decent picture. 15# in the fridge curing for tomorrow. Here is tomorrow’s group.Screenshot_20220212-221642_Gallery.jpg

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              samspade good luck with your smoke.

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              • cdavisC cdavis

                samspade good luck with your smoke.

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                cdavis thanks, been fooling around with this since 1500. It’s now 1 am.sitting at 130 temp. No sleep tonight lol

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                • samspadeS samspade

                  cdavis thanks, been fooling around with this since 1500. It’s now 1 am.sitting at 130 temp. No sleep tonight lol

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                  cdavis
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                  samspade when mine stall like that they go in the turkey roaster. Sorry you didn’t get any sleep but you’ll have some good snacking. If it makes you feel any better I didn’t get any sleep either. Working 12hr nights 🌙 😪.

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                  • samspadeS samspade

                    Dr_Pain yes it going on now. 10#, with encapsulated acid, in the smoker where it’s to dark to take a decent picture. 15# in the fridge curing for tomorrow. Here is tomorrow’s group.Screenshot_20220212-221642_Gallery.jpg

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                    samspade Nice job. Might not seem like it now, but when you’re eating that sausage the lack of sleep will seem worth it I bet.

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                    • samspadeS samspade

                      cdavis thanks, been fooling around with this since 1500. It’s now 1 am.sitting at 130 temp. No sleep tonight lol

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                      samspade said in Grind and hold.:

                      cdavis thanks, been fooling around with this since 1500. It’s now 1 am.sitting at 130 temp. No sleep tonight lol

                      That’s when ya set the smoker temp to your desired IT and go to bed. Also a good chance to shop for a sous vide setup 😉

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                        samspade said in Grind and hold.:

                        cdavis thanks, been fooling around with this since 1500. It’s now 1 am.sitting at 130 temp. No sleep tonight lol

                        That’s when ya set the smoker temp to your desired IT and go to bed. Also a good chance to shop for a sous vide setup 😉

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                        Jamieson22 yeah had the sous vide set up at 176 for when it hit 140. This thing is great. 140 to 175 in under an hour.

                        Question. When I pulled from the smoker the casings felt firm and had little signs of wrinkling. After sous vide they were pretty wrinkled but still felt firm. None of the casings split or opened but the water looked like I had cooked hotdogs. Just a little oily on top. It was 50/50 burger and pork with 1.5 lbs high temp cheese and encapsulated citric. Good stepping cook schedule to 140. Then into the bath to 175.
                        Did I do something wrong or is wrinkling normal?Screenshot_20220213-134435_Gallery.jpg

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                        • samspadeS samspade

                          Jamieson22 yeah had the sous vide set up at 176 for when it hit 140. This thing is great. 140 to 175 in under an hour.

                          Question. When I pulled from the smoker the casings felt firm and had little signs of wrinkling. After sous vide they were pretty wrinkled but still felt firm. None of the casings split or opened but the water looked like I had cooked hotdogs. Just a little oily on top. It was 50/50 burger and pork with 1.5 lbs high temp cheese and encapsulated citric. Good stepping cook schedule to 140. Then into the bath to 175.
                          Did I do something wrong or is wrinkling normal?Screenshot_20220213-134435_Gallery.jpg

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                          samspade
                          You sous vide the sausage til it hit 176 or was that your water temp?

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                          • samspadeS samspade

                            Jamieson22 yeah had the sous vide set up at 176 for when it hit 140. This thing is great. 140 to 175 in under an hour.

                            Question. When I pulled from the smoker the casings felt firm and had little signs of wrinkling. After sous vide they were pretty wrinkled but still felt firm. None of the casings split or opened but the water looked like I had cooked hotdogs. Just a little oily on top. It was 50/50 burger and pork with 1.5 lbs high temp cheese and encapsulated citric. Good stepping cook schedule to 140. Then into the bath to 175.
                            Did I do something wrong or is wrinkling normal?Screenshot_20220213-134435_Gallery.jpg

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                            bocephus
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                            samspade Maybe not stuffed completely, possible fat out, not enough protein extraction when mixing. Did you do a ice water bath when removed from sous vide?

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                            • PapaSopP PapaSop

                              samspade
                              You sous vide the sausage til it hit 176 or was that your water temp?

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                              PapaSop I missed the temp., good catch.

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                              • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                samspade
                                You sous vide the sausage til it hit 176 or was that your water temp?

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                                PapaSop water temp 176. IT 175. And right into the ice water.
                                Mixed 10 mins in 20lb crank mixer. Thought they were firm but hey first time so IDK for sure.

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                                  Also soy protien binder used.

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                                  • samspadeS samspade

                                    PapaSop water temp 176. IT 175. And right into the ice water.
                                    Mixed 10 mins in 20lb crank mixer. Thought they were firm but hey first time so IDK for sure.

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                                    samspade IT temp should be 160 degrees.

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                                      samspade IT temp should be 160 degrees.

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                                      bocephus ok second batch is going in today. Guess if it’s a procedure I will correct it by stopping at 160. If it’s a prep issue I’ll fix it next time. Couldnt wait here is the product. It tasted good but it seems wet. Never made one before so if that’s not good any advise. Screenshot_20220213-142433_Gallery.jpg

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                                      • samspadeS samspade

                                        PapaSop water temp 176. IT 175. And right into the ice water.
                                        Mixed 10 mins in 20lb crank mixer. Thought they were firm but hey first time so IDK for sure.

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                                        samspade said in Grind and hold.:

                                        PapaSop water temp 176. IT 175. And right into the ice water.
                                        Mixed 10 mins in 20lb crank mixer. Thought they were firm but hey first time so IDK for sure.

                                        Sounds like you did everything right. Not sure why you went to an IT of 175. 155-160 should be good.

                                        Never had wrinkled casings come out of the sous vide. From the smoker yes. Even wrinkled casings went smooth coming out of the SV.

                                        Thing is… If the final product is safe and good, the appearance is only for resale. Us home guys, not a big deal. 👍

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                                        • samspadeS samspade

                                          bocephus ok second batch is going in today. Guess if it’s a procedure I will correct it by stopping at 160. If it’s a prep issue I’ll fix it next time. Couldnt wait here is the product. It tasted good but it seems wet. Never made one before so if that’s not good any advise. Screenshot_20220213-142433_Gallery.jpg

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                                          samspade said in Grind and hold.:

                                          bocephus ok second batch is going in today. Guess if it’s a procedure I will correct it by stopping at 160. If it’s a prep issue I’ll fix it next time. Couldnt wait here is the product. It tasted good but it seems wet. Never made one before so if that’s not good any advise. Screenshot_20220213-142433_Gallery.jpg

                                          Don’t worry about the moistness. Let hang and dry out a bit. Personally, I’d rather have it a bit moist rather than dry and chewy, it’s just a personal preference. No rules here. Do what works for you.

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