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Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?

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  • ND MikeN ND Mike

    Has anyone made a snack stick with this seasoning yet? Wondering how it is.

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    ND Mike I’m wanting to since the other pizza seasoning was not up to par. But I have so much in seasoning right now I gotta use those up first. Looking for your reports if you try it. Are you adding the ground pepperoni and multiple cheese flavors if you try it?

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    • twilliamsT twilliams

      ND Mike I’m wanting to since the other pizza seasoning was not up to par. But I have so much in seasoning right now I gotta use those up first. Looking for your reports if you try it. Are you adding the ground pepperoni and multiple cheese flavors if you try it?

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      twilliams yeah probably. I’m in the same boat as you right now. I have a lot of seasoning right now!!!

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        I was happy with the Supreme Italian Pizza seasoning. I added bacon and mozzarella cheese to mine and they made a great grilled sausage. I also made a batch without the bacon and cheese to use as sausage for spaghetti. I had thought of using it for snack sticks using pepperoni and mozzarella cheese.

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        • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

          I was happy with the Supreme Italian Pizza seasoning. I added bacon and mozzarella cheese to mine and they made a great grilled sausage. I also made a batch without the bacon and cheese to use as sausage for spaghetti. I had thought of using it for snack sticks using pepperoni and mozzarella cheese.

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          johnsbrewhouse said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

          I was happy with the Supreme Italian Pizza seasoning. I added bacon and mozzarella cheese to mine and they made a great grilled sausage. I also made a batch without the bacon and cheese to use as sausage for spaghetti. I had thought of using it for snack sticks using pepperoni and mozzarella cheese.

          How would you use a brat seasoning and adapt it to a snack stick?? Add 10% more seasoning?

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            Not even given this a thought until now. Curious what others think. Guess I’m more of the traditional type than flavored stuff. Always willing to experiment though.

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            • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

              johnsbrewhouse said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

              I was happy with the Supreme Italian Pizza seasoning. I added bacon and mozzarella cheese to mine and they made a great grilled sausage. I also made a batch without the bacon and cheese to use as sausage for spaghetti. I had thought of using it for snack sticks using pepperoni and mozzarella cheese.

              How would you use a brat seasoning and adapt it to a snack stick?? Add 10% more seasoning?

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              Dr_Pain I think I might start there depending on what you add. If you were to add pepperoni or bacon, I certainly would not up it that far since both bacon and pepperoni both have a fairly high salt content.

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                What would happen if you replaced some or all of the water with pizza sauce? I make my own sauce and I think it would add a lot of flavor. Maybe even start with a plain seasoning like H summer sausage and add your pizza stuff to it?

                hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                  johnsbrewhouse said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

                  I was happy with the Supreme Italian Pizza seasoning. I added bacon and mozzarella cheese to mine and they made a great grilled sausage. I also made a batch without the bacon and cheese to use as sausage for spaghetti. I had thought of using it for snack sticks using pepperoni and mozzarella cheese.

                  How would you use a brat seasoning and adapt it to a snack stick?? Add 10% more seasoning?

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                  Dr_Pain I was thinking of maybe cutting the meatblock to 20 lbs instead then adding sure cure.

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                  • kyleK kyle

                    What would happen if you replaced some or all of the water with pizza sauce? I make my own sauce and I think it would add a lot of flavor. Maybe even start with a plain seasoning like H summer sausage and add your pizza stuff to it?

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                    kyle ohhh…that is interesting!!!

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                    • PapaSopP PapaSop

                      Not even given this a thought until now. Curious what others think. Guess I’m more of the traditional type than flavored stuff. Always willing to experiment though.

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                      PapaSop I like traditional flavors as well but I’m not afraid to try out others. If it sucks, I won’t eat it again…lol!!!

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                      • ND MikeN ND Mike

                        Dr_Pain I was thinking of maybe cutting the meatblock to 20 lbs instead then adding sure cure.

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                        ND Mike said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

                        Dr_Pain I was thinking of maybe cutting the meatblock to 20 lbs instead then adding sure cure.

                        So if my math is correct we are talking about adding 20% more seasoning to snack sticks then fresh brats??

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                        • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                          ND Mike said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

                          Dr_Pain I was thinking of maybe cutting the meatblock to 20 lbs instead then adding sure cure.

                          So if my math is correct we are talking about adding 20% more seasoning to snack sticks then fresh brats??

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                          Dr_Pain I thinks so. Math is not my strong suite though.

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                          • ND MikeN ND Mike

                            Dr_Pain I thinks so. Math is not my strong suite though.

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                            ND Mike said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

                            Dr_Pain I thinks so. Math is not my strong suite though.

                            LOL!!! You are good bro. It will have to be an experiment on my end to get the taste just right but having a starting point will help

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                            • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                              ND Mike said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

                              Dr_Pain I thinks so. Math is not my strong suite though.

                              LOL!!! You are good bro. It will have to be an experiment on my end to get the taste just right but having a starting point will help

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                              Dr_Pain I think if I remember right Jonathon said if you wanted to use a fresh sausage seasoning to make sticks or cured sausage and say the block was 25 lbs to cut it back to around 20 lbs. Hopefully he chimes in.

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                                Dr_Pain They can all be a little different, for the |Supreme-Pizza-Bratwurst-Seasoning I would add 15-20% more seasoning per pound, for the hatch I would add about 25% more per lb. It all comes down to salt content though. So, my best recommendation is do half your meat block and then cook up a small amount of the meat. That way you still have half the meat to make it stronger or milder. IN general ND Mike is correct, if you are taking a fresh sausage and making a cured sausage then reducing the meat block from 25 to 20 is usually a good ratio.

                                For the Pizza Flavored Frank and Weiner just use it at its natural amount, it is designed to be cured so it will have the correct amount of salt.

                                kyle if you are making it fresh then I would recommend just adding it as a topping. If you are making a snack stick or something the acidity from the tomato sauce is going to cause problems with your protein binding. I don’t know how you would get around that. Maybe add some extra binder, or something to raise the pH a little?

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                                • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                  Dr_Pain They can all be a little different, for the |Supreme-Pizza-Bratwurst-Seasoning I would add 15-20% more seasoning per pound, for the hatch I would add about 25% more per lb. It all comes down to salt content though. So, my best recommendation is do half your meat block and then cook up a small amount of the meat. That way you still have half the meat to make it stronger or milder. IN general ND Mike is correct, if you are taking a fresh sausage and making a cured sausage then reducing the meat block from 25 to 20 is usually a good ratio.

                                  For the Pizza Flavored Frank and Weiner just use it at its natural amount, it is designed to be cured so it will have the correct amount of salt.

                                  kyle if you are making it fresh then I would recommend just adding it as a topping. If you are making a snack stick or something the acidity from the tomato sauce is going to cause problems with your protein binding. I don’t know how you would get around that. Maybe add some extra binder, or something to raise the pH a little?

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                                  Jonathon thanks for answering!

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                                  • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                    Dr_Pain They can all be a little different, for the |Supreme-Pizza-Bratwurst-Seasoning I would add 15-20% more seasoning per pound, for the hatch I would add about 25% more per lb. It all comes down to salt content though. So, my best recommendation is do half your meat block and then cook up a small amount of the meat. That way you still have half the meat to make it stronger or milder. IN general ND Mike is correct, if you are taking a fresh sausage and making a cured sausage then reducing the meat block from 25 to 20 is usually a good ratio.

                                    For the Pizza Flavored Frank and Weiner just use it at its natural amount, it is designed to be cured so it will have the correct amount of salt.

                                    kyle if you are making it fresh then I would recommend just adding it as a topping. If you are making a snack stick or something the acidity from the tomato sauce is going to cause problems with your protein binding. I don’t know how you would get around that. Maybe add some extra binder, or something to raise the pH a little?

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                                    Jonathon You don’t need to add tomato sauce, you can add tomato powder and eliminate the acidity problem and if you need some acidity for your tomato powder you can add vinegar powder. With the powders, you generally don’t have the problems with protein binding since they are dry products and by the time they hydrate you should have completed the protein binding process.

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                                    • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                      Dr_Pain They can all be a little different, for the |Supreme-Pizza-Bratwurst-Seasoning I would add 15-20% more seasoning per pound, for the hatch I would add about 25% more per lb. It all comes down to salt content though. So, my best recommendation is do half your meat block and then cook up a small amount of the meat. That way you still have half the meat to make it stronger or milder. IN general ND Mike is correct, if you are taking a fresh sausage and making a cured sausage then reducing the meat block from 25 to 20 is usually a good ratio.

                                      For the Pizza Flavored Frank and Weiner just use it at its natural amount, it is designed to be cured so it will have the correct amount of salt.

                                      kyle if you are making it fresh then I would recommend just adding it as a topping. If you are making a snack stick or something the acidity from the tomato sauce is going to cause problems with your protein binding. I don’t know how you would get around that. Maybe add some extra binder, or something to raise the pH a little?

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                                      Jonathon when I made buffalo blue cheese sticks, I replaced the water with Frank’s red hot sauce and didnt seem to have a issue. I used soy protein for a binder. Maybe just got lucky

                                      hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                        johnsbrewhouse So, I don’t think I am this way with many things but I am an absolute snob with Spaghetti Sauce. I feel like sausage and snack sticks and all of that I am pretty good at enjoying all types but I have higher standards for a spaghetti sauce and tomato powder isn’t allowed near my sauces! I think it was because my grandma, father and Mother all made extremely good red sauces so the first time I had Ragu, i was like…what is this? This isn’t a real red sauce!

                                        kyle I’ve tried Franks powdered before, sort of like what John is talking about above and not had issues. But, I did have issues with the sauce. Wonder what the difference was. I am sure I used |Sure-Gel-Meat-Binder instead of |Soy-Protein-Blend

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                                        • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                          johnsbrewhouse So, I don’t think I am this way with many things but I am an absolute snob with Spaghetti Sauce. I feel like sausage and snack sticks and all of that I am pretty good at enjoying all types but I have higher standards for a spaghetti sauce and tomato powder isn’t allowed near my sauces! I think it was because my grandma, father and Mother all made extremely good red sauces so the first time I had Ragu, i was like…what is this? This isn’t a real red sauce!

                                          kyle I’ve tried Franks powdered before, sort of like what John is talking about above and not had issues. But, I did have issues with the sauce. Wonder what the difference was. I am sure I used |Sure-Gel-Meat-Binder instead of |Soy-Protein-Blend

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                                          Jonathon said in Walton's Pizza flavored frank and weiner seasoning?:

                                          I think it was because my grandma, father and Mother all made extremely good red sauces so the first time I had Ragu, i was like…what is this? This isn’t a real red sauce!

                                          I never had store bought milk till I was 13 years old. We lived on a farm and my dad drove truck picking up milk from dairy farms. I love milk and drink a lot. After my parents separated and we moved into town, I had my first store bought milk. It was like drinking water. I remember being so upset that I was going to have to drink this from now on. Well, I have gotten used to store milk over the last 35 years and I drink 2-3 gallons a week of it. Your Ragu is my milk.

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