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    calldoctoday
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    mrobisr I really like pickled sausages. I used to make several gallons of them when we had more chickens & made lots of pickled eggs too. I am going to have to get back to those days.

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    • samspadeS samspade

      mrobisr Ok, I am going out on a limb but I dont believe the Roman’s had microwave ovens! Just saying…

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      mrobisr
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      samspade said in Pickled Sausage:

      mrobisr Ok, I am going out on a limb but I dont believe the Roman’s had microwave ovens! Just saying…

      You never know Sam, the Flintstones were fairly advanced for stone age times and the Romans came after them, lol.

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        mrobisr
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        wrote on last edited by
        #23

        This is a combination recipe that I have settled on between a Penrose Hot Sausage Recipe recreation by John Venning and the Utopenci recipe.

        During the years I have added all the ingredients to a batch and have left some out on another batch and have yet to be let down.

        Ingredients
        • __- 1/2 cup water
        • __- 2 cups white vinegar
        • __- 1/2 tbs Chipotle chili powder
        • __- 1 tbs red pepper flakes
        • __- 1 tsp minced Garlic, I use fresh, but both work
        • __- 1 tbs dried minced onion, I use fresh, but both work
        • __- 1 tsp Paprika, smoked works very well too
        • __- 1/2 tsp white pepper
        • __- 1 tbs salt
        • 1 tbs mustard seed
        • 20 whole peppercorns
        • Bay leaf
        • __- Lg pinch all spice
        • __- 28 oz pkg Hillshire Farms 'lil Smokies, or other precooked link sausage, cut in two. (MUST be precooked!) Kielbasa sliced about 1/2 inch thick works also. Hot dogs just don’t work.
        • __- Or, use to pickle Boiled Eggs!
        Steps

        1. 1* On medium-high heat, combine the water, salt, vinegar, and spices.
        2. 2* Bring the mixture to a boil. Cover and simmer for 5 minutes in a well ventilated area.
        3. NOTE: when you’re simmering the brine, make sure you have a ventilator fan running or a window and door open, the vinegar and Cayenne pepper boiling is kinda’ hard on a the eyes! Almost like mace…
        4. 3* Place precooked sausage into a 1 qt sterile jar. Fill jar but don’t pack tightly.
        5. 4* Pour the hot vinegar mixture in with the sausage, If there isn’t enough, add some vinegar. Secure the lid.
        6. 5* Let cool, then place in the fridge, keep refrigerated.
        7. 6* Ready to eat in 7 to 14 days.
        8. When opened for the first time, there will be a layer of fat on top and the underside of the lid, remove if you want too.
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        • mrobisrM mrobisr

          This is a combination recipe that I have settled on between a Penrose Hot Sausage Recipe recreation by John Venning and the Utopenci recipe.

          During the years I have added all the ingredients to a batch and have left some out on another batch and have yet to be let down.

          Ingredients
          • __- 1/2 cup water
          • __- 2 cups white vinegar
          • __- 1/2 tbs Chipotle chili powder
          • __- 1 tbs red pepper flakes
          • __- 1 tsp minced Garlic, I use fresh, but both work
          • __- 1 tbs dried minced onion, I use fresh, but both work
          • __- 1 tsp Paprika, smoked works very well too
          • __- 1/2 tsp white pepper
          • __- 1 tbs salt
          • 1 tbs mustard seed
          • 20 whole peppercorns
          • Bay leaf
          • __- Lg pinch all spice
          • __- 28 oz pkg Hillshire Farms 'lil Smokies, or other precooked link sausage, cut in two. (MUST be precooked!) Kielbasa sliced about 1/2 inch thick works also. Hot dogs just don’t work.
          • __- Or, use to pickle Boiled Eggs!
          Steps

          1. 1* On medium-high heat, combine the water, salt, vinegar, and spices.
          2. 2* Bring the mixture to a boil. Cover and simmer for 5 minutes in a well ventilated area.
          3. NOTE: when you’re simmering the brine, make sure you have a ventilator fan running or a window and door open, the vinegar and Cayenne pepper boiling is kinda’ hard on a the eyes! Almost like mace…
          4. 3* Place precooked sausage into a 1 qt sterile jar. Fill jar but don’t pack tightly.
          5. 4* Pour the hot vinegar mixture in with the sausage, If there isn’t enough, add some vinegar. Secure the lid.
          6. 5* Let cool, then place in the fridge, keep refrigerated.
          7. 6* Ready to eat in 7 to 14 days.
          8. When opened for the first time, there will be a layer of fat on top and the underside of the lid, remove if you want too.
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          calldoctoday
          Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
          wrote on last edited by
          #24

          mrobisr said in Pickled Sausage:

          Ingredients
          • __- 1/2 cup water
          • __- 2 cups white vinegar
          • __- 1/2 tbs Chipotle chili powder
          • __- 1 tbs red pepper flakes
          • __- 1 tsp minced Garlic, I use fresh, but both work
          • __- 1 tbs dried minced onion, I use fresh, but both work
          • __- 1 tsp Paprika, smoked works very well too
          • __- 1/2 tsp white pepper
          • __- 1 tbs salt
          • 1 tbs mustard seed
          • 20 whole peppercorns
          • Bay leaf
          • __- Lg pinch all spice
          • __- 28 oz pkg Hillshire Farms 'lil Smokies, or other precooked link sausage, cut in two. (MUST be precooked!) Kielbasa sliced about 1/2 inch thick works also. Hot dogs just don’t work.
          • __- Or, use to pickle Boiled Eggs!
          Steps

          1* On medium-high heat, combine the water, salt, vinegar, and spices.
          2* Bring the mixture to a boil. Cover and simmer for 5 minutes in a well ventilated area.
          NOTE: when you’re simmering the brine, make sure you have a ventilator fan running or a window and door open, the vinegar and Cayenne pepper boiling is kinda’ hard on a the eyes! Almost like mace…
          3* Place precooked sausage into a 1 qt sterile jar. Fill jar but don’t pack tightly.
          4* Pour the hot vinegar mixture in with the sausage, If there isn’t enough, add some vinegar. Secure the lid.
          5* Let cool, then place in the fridge, keep refrigerated.
          6* Ready to eat in 7 to 14 days.
          When opened for the first time, there will be a layer of fat on top and the underside of the lid, remove if you want too.

          Thank YOU!

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          • keend0K keend0

            Pickled sausage and quail eggs are to die for…with a cold beer!

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            mrobisr
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            #25

            keend0 said in Pickled Sausage:

            Pickled sausage and quail eggs are to die for…with a cold beer!

            I love pickled quail eggs, but I just do not have the patience to peel those little things, so I stick with hen eggs.

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            • C calldoctoday

              mrobisr said in Pickled Sausage:

              Ingredients
              • __- 1/2 cup water
              • __- 2 cups white vinegar
              • __- 1/2 tbs Chipotle chili powder
              • __- 1 tbs red pepper flakes
              • __- 1 tsp minced Garlic, I use fresh, but both work
              • __- 1 tbs dried minced onion, I use fresh, but both work
              • __- 1 tsp Paprika, smoked works very well too
              • __- 1/2 tsp white pepper
              • __- 1 tbs salt
              • 1 tbs mustard seed
              • 20 whole peppercorns
              • Bay leaf
              • __- Lg pinch all spice
              • __- 28 oz pkg Hillshire Farms 'lil Smokies, or other precooked link sausage, cut in two. (MUST be precooked!) Kielbasa sliced about 1/2 inch thick works also. Hot dogs just don’t work.
              • __- Or, use to pickle Boiled Eggs!
              Steps

              1* On medium-high heat, combine the water, salt, vinegar, and spices.
              2* Bring the mixture to a boil. Cover and simmer for 5 minutes in a well ventilated area.
              NOTE: when you’re simmering the brine, make sure you have a ventilator fan running or a window and door open, the vinegar and Cayenne pepper boiling is kinda’ hard on a the eyes! Almost like mace…
              3* Place precooked sausage into a 1 qt sterile jar. Fill jar but don’t pack tightly.
              4* Pour the hot vinegar mixture in with the sausage, If there isn’t enough, add some vinegar. Secure the lid.
              5* Let cool, then place in the fridge, keep refrigerated.
              6* Ready to eat in 7 to 14 days.
              When opened for the first time, there will be a layer of fat on top and the underside of the lid, remove if you want too.

              Thank YOU!

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              mrobisr
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              wrote on last edited by
              #26

              calldoctoday You are welcome

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              • mrobisrM mrobisr

                samspade said in Pickled Sausage:

                mrobisr Ok, I am going out on a limb but I dont believe the Roman’s had microwave ovens! Just saying…

                You never know Sam, the Flintstones were fairly advanced for stone age times and the Romans came after them, lol.

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                mrobisr I getting a dinosoreass!

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                  mrobisr
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #28

                  I forgot to say on these two jars I added dehydrated bell pepper, so we’ll see how that works never tried it before.

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                  • mrobisrM mrobisr

                    This is a combination recipe that I have settled on between a Penrose Hot Sausage Recipe recreation by John Venning and the Utopenci recipe.

                    During the years I have added all the ingredients to a batch and have left some out on another batch and have yet to be let down.

                    Ingredients
                    • __- 1/2 cup water
                    • __- 2 cups white vinegar
                    • __- 1/2 tbs Chipotle chili powder
                    • __- 1 tbs red pepper flakes
                    • __- 1 tsp minced Garlic, I use fresh, but both work
                    • __- 1 tbs dried minced onion, I use fresh, but both work
                    • __- 1 tsp Paprika, smoked works very well too
                    • __- 1/2 tsp white pepper
                    • __- 1 tbs salt
                    • 1 tbs mustard seed
                    • 20 whole peppercorns
                    • Bay leaf
                    • __- Lg pinch all spice
                    • __- 28 oz pkg Hillshire Farms 'lil Smokies, or other precooked link sausage, cut in two. (MUST be precooked!) Kielbasa sliced about 1/2 inch thick works also. Hot dogs just don’t work.
                    • __- Or, use to pickle Boiled Eggs!
                    Steps

                    1. 1* On medium-high heat, combine the water, salt, vinegar, and spices.
                    2. 2* Bring the mixture to a boil. Cover and simmer for 5 minutes in a well ventilated area.
                    3. NOTE: when you’re simmering the brine, make sure you have a ventilator fan running or a window and door open, the vinegar and Cayenne pepper boiling is kinda’ hard on a the eyes! Almost like mace…
                    4. 3* Place precooked sausage into a 1 qt sterile jar. Fill jar but don’t pack tightly.
                    5. 4* Pour the hot vinegar mixture in with the sausage, If there isn’t enough, add some vinegar. Secure the lid.
                    6. 5* Let cool, then place in the fridge, keep refrigerated.
                    7. 6* Ready to eat in 7 to 14 days.
                    8. When opened for the first time, there will be a layer of fat on top and the underside of the lid, remove if you want too.
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                    ND Mike
                    Big Green Egg Team Blue Regular Contributors Cast Iron Power User
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #29

                    mrobisr I think I need to try this with sausage and eggs!!!

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                    • ND MikeN ND Mike

                      mrobisr I think I need to try this with sausage and eggs!!!

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                      mrobisr
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                      wrote on last edited by mrobisr
                      #30

                      ND Mike said in Pickled Sausage:

                      mrobisr I think I need to try this with sausage and eggs!!!

                      Yes it is good with eggs too and I like to add dill when I do the eggs, but that is what’s so fun is to experiment and try different spices and herbs. You can add turmeric or beet juice for color if desired, I never do, but some like the color.

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                      • mrobisrM mrobisr

                        I know to some this will be truly offensive, but to some pickled sausage is heavenly. I cheated and used store bought smokies because my freezer is seriously lacking homemade sausage right now, but it is still amazing. I prefer kielbasa, but have used the smokies in the past and they work extremely well. 20220130_194937.jpg

                        Couple weeks from now I’ll have some seriously tasty treats.

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                        YooperDog
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #31

                        mrobisr good looking jars. Never thought about using those little sausages, great idea. I like a lot of things pickled, eggs, pig feet, hocks, etc… Now I am going to have to try a batch of those.

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                        • Tex_77T Tex_77

                          mrobisr now you just need some pickled eggs and a beer!

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                          bocephus
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                          #32

                          Tex_77 Never cared for pickled eggs, I do like pickled turkey gizzards though, first found them in a bar in a small town where I used to work in MN.

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                          • B bocephus

                            Tex_77 Never cared for pickled eggs, I do like pickled turkey gizzards though, first found them in a bar in a small town where I used to work in MN.

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                            mrobisr
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #33

                            bocephus never heard of pickled turkey gizzard, but I sure would try them.

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                            • YooperDogY YooperDog

                              mrobisr good looking jars. Never thought about using those little sausages, great idea. I like a lot of things pickled, eggs, pig feet, hocks, etc… Now I am going to have to try a batch of those.

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                              mrobisr
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #34

                              YooperDog oh that all sounds so good, you guys are making it extremely hard to leave those sausages in the brine long enough.

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                              • mrobisrM mrobisr

                                This is a combination recipe that I have settled on between a Penrose Hot Sausage Recipe recreation by John Venning and the Utopenci recipe.

                                During the years I have added all the ingredients to a batch and have left some out on another batch and have yet to be let down.

                                Ingredients
                                • __- 1/2 cup water
                                • __- 2 cups white vinegar
                                • __- 1/2 tbs Chipotle chili powder
                                • __- 1 tbs red pepper flakes
                                • __- 1 tsp minced Garlic, I use fresh, but both work
                                • __- 1 tbs dried minced onion, I use fresh, but both work
                                • __- 1 tsp Paprika, smoked works very well too
                                • __- 1/2 tsp white pepper
                                • __- 1 tbs salt
                                • 1 tbs mustard seed
                                • 20 whole peppercorns
                                • Bay leaf
                                • __- Lg pinch all spice
                                • __- 28 oz pkg Hillshire Farms 'lil Smokies, or other precooked link sausage, cut in two. (MUST be precooked!) Kielbasa sliced about 1/2 inch thick works also. Hot dogs just don’t work.
                                • __- Or, use to pickle Boiled Eggs!
                                Steps

                                1. 1* On medium-high heat, combine the water, salt, vinegar, and spices.
                                2. 2* Bring the mixture to a boil. Cover and simmer for 5 minutes in a well ventilated area.
                                3. NOTE: when you’re simmering the brine, make sure you have a ventilator fan running or a window and door open, the vinegar and Cayenne pepper boiling is kinda’ hard on a the eyes! Almost like mace…
                                4. 3* Place precooked sausage into a 1 qt sterile jar. Fill jar but don’t pack tightly.
                                5. 4* Pour the hot vinegar mixture in with the sausage, If there isn’t enough, add some vinegar. Secure the lid.
                                6. 5* Let cool, then place in the fridge, keep refrigerated.
                                7. 6* Ready to eat in 7 to 14 days.
                                8. When opened for the first time, there will be a layer of fat on top and the underside of the lid, remove if you want too.
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                                Sous Vide Dry Cured Sausage Traeger Team Blue
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #35

                                mrobisr said in Pickled Sausage:

                                This is a combination recipe that I have settled on between a Penrose Hot Sausage Recipe recreation by John Venning and the Utopenci recipe.

                                During the years I have added all the ingredients to a batch and have left some out on another batch and have yet to be let down.

                                Ingredients
                                • __- 1/2 cup water
                                • __- 2 cups white vinegar
                                • __- 1/2 tbs Chipotle chili powder
                                • __- 1 tbs red pepper flakes
                                • __- 1 tsp minced Garlic, I use fresh, but both work
                                • __- 1 tbs dried minced onion, I use fresh, but both work
                                • __- 1 tsp Paprika, smoked works very well too
                                • __- 1/2 tsp white pepper
                                • __- 1 tbs salt
                                • 1 tbs mustard seed
                                • 20 whole peppercorns
                                • Bay leaf
                                • __- Lg pinch all spice
                                • __- 28 oz pkg Hillshire Farms 'lil Smokies, or other precooked link sausage, cut in two. (MUST be precooked!) Kielbasa sliced about 1/2 inch thick works also. Hot dogs just don’t work.
                                • __- Or, use to pickle Boiled Eggs!
                                Steps

                                1. 1* On medium-high heat, combine the water, salt, vinegar, and spices.
                                2. 2* Bring the mixture to a boil. Cover and simmer for 5 minutes in a well ventilated area.
                                3. NOTE: when you’re simmering the brine, make sure you have a ventilator fan running or a window and door open, the vinegar and Cayenne pepper boiling is kinda’ hard on a the eyes! Almost like mace…
                                4. 3* Place precooked sausage into a 1 qt sterile jar. Fill jar but don’t pack tightly.
                                5. 4* Pour the hot vinegar mixture in with the sausage, If there isn’t enough, add some vinegar. Secure the lid.
                                6. 5* Let cool, then place in the fridge, keep refrigerated.
                                7. 6* Ready to eat in 7 to 14 days.
                                8. When opened for the first time, there will be a layer of fat on top and the underside of the lid, remove if you want too.

                                Thanks for this recipe

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                                • mrobisrM mrobisr

                                  ND Mike said in Pickled Sausage:

                                  mrobisr I think I need to try this with sausage and eggs!!!

                                  Yes it is good with eggs too and I like to add dill when I do the eggs, but that is what’s so fun is to experiment and try different spices and herbs. You can add turmeric or beet juice for color if desired, I never do, but some like the color.

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                                  ND Mike
                                  Big Green Egg Team Blue Regular Contributors Cast Iron Power User
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #36

                                  mrobisr yeah I just prefer white eggs. I dont like beets so I don’t like the red ones!

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                                  • mrobisrM mrobisr

                                    bocephus never heard of pickled turkey gizzard, but I sure would try them.

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                                    bocephus
                                    Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #37

                                    mrobisr They had them there and would have a small knife and cutting board with a package of saltine crackers, you would slice them up and eat them on crackers. Pretty good with a cold beer after work.

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                                    • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                                      mrobisr said in Pickled Sausage:

                                      This is a combination recipe that I have settled on between a Penrose Hot Sausage Recipe recreation by John Venning and the Utopenci recipe.

                                      During the years I have added all the ingredients to a batch and have left some out on another batch and have yet to be let down.

                                      Ingredients
                                      • __- 1/2 cup water
                                      • __- 2 cups white vinegar
                                      • __- 1/2 tbs Chipotle chili powder
                                      • __- 1 tbs red pepper flakes
                                      • __- 1 tsp minced Garlic, I use fresh, but both work
                                      • __- 1 tbs dried minced onion, I use fresh, but both work
                                      • __- 1 tsp Paprika, smoked works very well too
                                      • __- 1/2 tsp white pepper
                                      • __- 1 tbs salt
                                      • 1 tbs mustard seed
                                      • 20 whole peppercorns
                                      • Bay leaf
                                      • __- Lg pinch all spice
                                      • __- 28 oz pkg Hillshire Farms 'lil Smokies, or other precooked link sausage, cut in two. (MUST be precooked!) Kielbasa sliced about 1/2 inch thick works also. Hot dogs just don’t work.
                                      • __- Or, use to pickle Boiled Eggs!
                                      Steps

                                      1. 1* On medium-high heat, combine the water, salt, vinegar, and spices.
                                      2. 2* Bring the mixture to a boil. Cover and simmer for 5 minutes in a well ventilated area.
                                      3. NOTE: when you’re simmering the brine, make sure you have a ventilator fan running or a window and door open, the vinegar and Cayenne pepper boiling is kinda’ hard on a the eyes! Almost like mace…
                                      4. 3* Place precooked sausage into a 1 qt sterile jar. Fill jar but don’t pack tightly.
                                      5. 4* Pour the hot vinegar mixture in with the sausage, If there isn’t enough, add some vinegar. Secure the lid.
                                      6. 5* Let cool, then place in the fridge, keep refrigerated.
                                      7. 6* Ready to eat in 7 to 14 days.
                                      8. When opened for the first time, there will be a layer of fat on top and the underside of the lid, remove if you want too.

                                      Thanks for this recipe

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                                      Dr_Pain you’re welcome

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                                      • ND MikeN ND Mike

                                        mrobisr yeah I just prefer white eggs. I dont like beets so I don’t like the red ones!

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                                        ND Mike said in Pickled Sausage:

                                        mrobisr yeah I just prefer white eggs. I dont like beets so I don’t like the red ones!

                                        I completely agree with that statement!

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                                        • ND MikeN ND Mike

                                          mrobisr yeah I just prefer white eggs. I dont like beets so I don’t like the red ones!

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                                          ND Mike Guess I shouldn’t say since I haven’t tried them but the Pickled Beets in so many of the pickling recipes on the internet just don’t inspire me

                                          Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
                                          Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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