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  • wdalyW wdaly

    Finally had time and could temps so smoked some cheese. Now the hard part… Waiting three weeks to sample. Thanks glen for the advice on cold smoking in the Masterbuilt. Used a Wedge and apple wood pellets. Color on the cheese is great.PXL_20220127_154059391.jpg

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    wdaly Good looking cheese. I’ve smoked up about 57 lbs so far this Fall & Winter. Still have about 15 lbs. more to go. I usually just plastic wrap and then vacuum pack. Ready to go in about 15 days. Gotta luv smoked cheese it’s easy to make and enjoyed by almost everyone.

    Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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    • wdalyW wdaly

      Finally had time and could temps so smoked some cheese. Now the hard part… Waiting three weeks to sample. Thanks glen for the advice on cold smoking in the Masterbuilt. Used a Wedge and apple wood pellets. Color on the cheese is great.PXL_20220127_154059391.jpg

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      wdaly looks great 👍

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      • samspadeS samspade

        I usually do several types. It is so hard to not eat them before 2 weeks of mellowing.

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        samspade said in smoked cheese:

        I usually do several types. It is so hard to not eat them before 2 weeks of mellowing.

        That’s my problem as well.

        You never work a day in your life if you love what you do.

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        • Bob StehlikB Bob Stehlik

          wdaly Good looking cheese. I’ve smoked up about 57 lbs so far this Fall & Winter. Still have about 15 lbs. more to go. I usually just plastic wrap and then vacuum pack. Ready to go in about 15 days. Gotta luv smoked cheese it’s easy to make and enjoyed by almost everyone.

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          wdaly
          Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill Team Orange Masterbuilt Power User Military Veterans Regular Contributors Yearling
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          Bob Stehlik Just out of curiosity. Why do you wrap in plastic before vac sealing. I’ve always just vac sealed mine. Does the plastic wrap help with the aging?

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          • wdalyW wdaly

            Bob Stehlik Just out of curiosity. Why do you wrap in plastic before vac sealing. I’ve always just vac sealed mine. Does the plastic wrap help with the aging?

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            wdaly Don’t wrap in plastic wrap with cheese. But, do wrap when I make burgers if I don’t freeze first. With meat, it keeps more of the moisture with the meat while vacuuming. Will wait for the reasoning. Maybe, it’s just preference.

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            • wdalyW wdaly

              Bob Stehlik Just out of curiosity. Why do you wrap in plastic before vac sealing. I’ve always just vac sealed mine. Does the plastic wrap help with the aging?

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              wdaly said in smoked cheese:

              Bob Stehlik Just out of curiosity. Why do you wrap in plastic before vac sealing. I’ve always just vac sealed mine. Does the plastic wrap help with the aging?

              I wrap in plastic wrap as well. The reason is I usually let it set in the fridge to make sure it’s good and cold before I vac seal. I wrap for that step to protect the cheese from any odors/flavors from the fridge. Then when I seal, I just put it in there still wrapped.

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              • wdalyW wdaly

                Bob Stehlik Just out of curiosity. Why do you wrap in plastic before vac sealing. I’ve always just vac sealed mine. Does the plastic wrap help with the aging?

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                wdaly I use the plastic wrap because I use a new vac bag each time I vac the cheese, therefore the plastic wrap will help keep the bag clean so it can be reused for veggies etc. If you reuse a vac bag for your cheese, you may introduce something that may cause mold. Plus after you take the cheese out of the vac bag you can re-wrap a couple of times. I never freeze my cheeses ( except for Mozz). We’ve eaten the plastic wrapped/vac wrapped cheese after a year and the only thing noticeable is some of the salt on the surface. This method has worked well for me for many, many years.

                Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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                • Bob StehlikB Bob Stehlik

                  wdaly I use the plastic wrap because I use a new vac bag each time I vac the cheese, therefore the plastic wrap will help keep the bag clean so it can be reused for veggies etc. If you reuse a vac bag for your cheese, you may introduce something that may cause mold. Plus after you take the cheese out of the vac bag you can re-wrap a couple of times. I never freeze my cheeses ( except for Mozz). We’ve eaten the plastic wrapped/vac wrapped cheese after a year and the only thing noticeable is some of the salt on the surface. This method has worked well for me for many, many years.

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                  Bob Stehlik said in smoked cheese:

                  wdaly I never freeze my cheeses ( except for Mozz). We’ve eaten the plastic wrapped/vac wrapped cheese after a year and the only thing noticeable is some of the salt on the surface.

                  This is interesting. So you’ve kept cheese like this in your fridge for a year without mold, etc? I don’t love freezing it, but am always worried it will go bad.

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                  • Midwest_kcM Midwest_kc

                    Bob Stehlik said in smoked cheese:

                    wdaly I never freeze my cheeses ( except for Mozz). We’ve eaten the plastic wrapped/vac wrapped cheese after a year and the only thing noticeable is some of the salt on the surface.

                    This is interesting. So you’ve kept cheese like this in your fridge for a year without mold, etc? I don’t love freezing it, but am always worried it will go bad.

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                    Midwest_kc That’s correct. We have a small fridge that’s just for cheese. I let the cheese cool before plastic wrapping and the vac-pac a few days later. We are very careful about the surfaces we work on so as not to contaminate the cheese with any spores. In fact, if we give someone smoked cheese, we tell them to change the wrapper every other time they open it and to always slice the cheese on a clean surface with a clean knife.
                    However, I do have to say I do a heavy smoke on my cheeses.

                    Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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                    • Midwest_kcM Midwest_kc

                      Bob Stehlik said in smoked cheese:

                      wdaly I never freeze my cheeses ( except for Mozz). We’ve eaten the plastic wrapped/vac wrapped cheese after a year and the only thing noticeable is some of the salt on the surface.

                      This is interesting. So you’ve kept cheese like this in your fridge for a year without mold, etc? I don’t love freezing it, but am always worried it will go bad.

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                      Midwest_kc Bob Stehlik Re: Freezing Cheese. The guy in charge of Grandpa’s Cheese Barn (Ashland, OH) and another cheese monger in Middlefield, OH (just can’t remember the name) both stated all cheese can be frozen. Just remember to place in the fridge (&only the fridge) for at least 3 days. It will come out perfect.

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                      • wdalyW wdaly

                        Finally had time and could temps so smoked some cheese. Now the hard part… Waiting three weeks to sample. Thanks glen for the advice on cold smoking in the Masterbuilt. Used a Wedge and apple wood pellets. Color on the cheese is great.PXL_20220127_154059391.jpg

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                        wdaly You’re welcome! Looks like a great outcome

                        Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
                        Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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                        • zbigjeffZ zbigjeff

                          Midwest_kc Bob Stehlik Re: Freezing Cheese. The guy in charge of Grandpa’s Cheese Barn (Ashland, OH) and another cheese monger in Middlefield, OH (just can’t remember the name) both stated all cheese can be frozen. Just remember to place in the fridge (&only the fridge) for at least 3 days. It will come out perfect.

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                          zbigjeff Thanks for the good info on freezing

                          Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
                          Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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                          • zbigjeffZ zbigjeff

                            Midwest_kc Bob Stehlik Re: Freezing Cheese. The guy in charge of Grandpa’s Cheese Barn (Ashland, OH) and another cheese monger in Middlefield, OH (just can’t remember the name) both stated all cheese can be frozen. Just remember to place in the fridge (&only the fridge) for at least 3 days. It will come out perfect.

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                            zbigjeff thanks never thought about freezing cheese. That opens up some options for me.

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                            • zbigjeffZ zbigjeff

                              Midwest_kc Bob Stehlik Re: Freezing Cheese. The guy in charge of Grandpa’s Cheese Barn (Ashland, OH) and another cheese monger in Middlefield, OH (just can’t remember the name) both stated all cheese can be frozen. Just remember to place in the fridge (&only the fridge) for at least 3 days. It will come out perfect.

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                              zbigjeff That is good to know.

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                              • zbigjeffZ zbigjeff

                                Midwest_kc Bob Stehlik Re: Freezing Cheese. The guy in charge of Grandpa’s Cheese Barn (Ashland, OH) and another cheese monger in Middlefield, OH (just can’t remember the name) both stated all cheese can be frozen. Just remember to place in the fridge (&only the fridge) for at least 3 days. It will come out perfect.

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                                zbigjeff Thanks for that info. I’ve always had problems with yellow and aged cheeses when I froze them. They would tend to be crumbly. However, I don’t think I was thawing them out properly. (I tend to be impatient sometimes; well MOST of the time!)
                                I’m definitely going to try the 3 day fridge routine.

                                Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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                                • Bob StehlikB Bob Stehlik

                                  zbigjeff Thanks for that info. I’ve always had problems with yellow and aged cheeses when I froze them. They would tend to be crumbly. However, I don’t think I was thawing them out properly. (I tend to be impatient sometimes; well MOST of the time!)
                                  I’m definitely going to try the 3 day fridge routine.

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                                  Bob Stehlik I thought that the cheese mongers were out of their mind. But, just like waiting to eat your smoked cheese, waiting for it to thaw properly and regain its integrity is also a lesson in patience. I did it with cheap, then middle priced and then with $24/lb cheese. Non turned out crumbly after waiting the “full 3 days”. Hopefully, you have the same experience. I know that you WILL advise.

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                                  • zbigjeffZ zbigjeff

                                    Bob Stehlik I thought that the cheese mongers were out of their mind. But, just like waiting to eat your smoked cheese, waiting for it to thaw properly and regain its integrity is also a lesson in patience. I did it with cheap, then middle priced and then with $24/lb cheese. Non turned out crumbly after waiting the “full 3 days”. Hopefully, you have the same experience. I know that you WILL advise.

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                                    zbigjeff - I’m going to try this trick as soon as I can get to the store and smoke some cheese. I thought you flat couldn’t freeze cheese unless you are using it for sauce or something.

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                                      zbigjeff - I’m going to try this trick as soon as I can get to the store and smoke some cheese. I thought you flat couldn’t freeze cheese unless you are using it for sauce or something.

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                                      @bmartin1000 Btw: both of them said 3. But, I always do 4. It doesn’t hurt to be conservative.

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                                      • zbigjeffZ zbigjeff

                                        @bmartin1000 Btw: both of them said 3. But, I always do 4. It doesn’t hurt to be conservative.

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                                        zbigjeff That’s is true control to let it go four weeks without a taste.

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                                          4 WEEKS! It’s almost spoiled in 4 weeks!

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