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  • C Cooper1

    Hi everyone and best wishes for 2022.
    I’m making a batch of venison/pork summer sausage. I use ECA and HT cheddar cheese.
    I normally grind, season and mix the meat one day 1, let it sit in the fridge overnight.
    On day two I mix in the ECA and cheese, stuff and smoke.
    Since it would be easiest to process all on day one and smoke it on day 2, here’s my question. If I did all of the processing (including inclusion of ECA and cheese and stuffing) on day one and put in the fridge overnight, will the ECA and cheese have any negative affect on the finished product.
    I realize I could process and smoke the same day due to the ECA and I have done that. However with processing and clean up and smoking and blooming etc it makes for a long day and sometimes I’m about out of energy and rush things.
    Doing it in a 2 day process has helped me make better product.
    Thanks!

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    GWG8541
    Regular Contributors Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Team Blue Power User Military Veterans
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    Cooper1 if you need to let it set overnight and don’t need the tang of the ECA, then don’t add the ECA with the cure and smoke it the next day.

    “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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    • C Cooper1

      That was my concern with adding the ECA a day ahead of time. I had been doing exactly what you described and perfect summer sausage. Well I’m done with clean up so I might as well fire it up! Thanks for your input

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      Cooper1 sorry if you feel I gave you bad info. I just did 25 pounds that way and it’s not mushy. I dont like the tang of ECA so I dont use it most of the time, but my bro does so I used it this time. It was my understanding that the meat temp has to be 130 before the ECA coating to melt. Good luck and sorry again

      hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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        Hey Kyle no worries whatsoever. My guts told me it was probably not the best way, I was hoping it would work. Its on the smoker now.
        Thank you for answering the questions.

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          glen
          Regular Contributors Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Power User Meat Hack Winner Veteran
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          After stuffing I have stored overnight with ECA a few times, never a problem.
          No cheese so I can’t address that

          Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
          Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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          • kyleK kyle

            Cooper1 sorry if you feel I gave you bad info. I just did 25 pounds that way and it’s not mushy. I dont like the tang of ECA so I dont use it most of the time, but my bro does so I used it this time. It was my understanding that the meat temp has to be 130 before the ECA coating to melt. Good luck and sorry again

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            kyle yes typically it does have to be heated to 130* for the capsules to dissolve but there is that chance that they could rupture before hand if left over night. It’s a risk that one has to decide on. If it does rupture it will denature the proteins holding it all together. It won’t be wasted just not as good of a final product

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              glen
              Regular Contributors Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Power User Meat Hack Winner Veteran
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              I should add to my post that overnight is not my usual procedure and I wouldn’t overnight it before final mixing and stuffing
              Also there are multiple brands of ECA and what I have is possibly less volatile than some others

              Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
              Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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                Hey everyone thanks for the responses. I do have mine in the smoker now. In hindsight I wish I kept 2 sticks back, let them sit in the fridge overnight and smoke tomorrow just for a test.
                Thanks again

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                • C Cooper1

                  Hi everyone and best wishes for 2022.
                  I’m making a batch of venison/pork summer sausage. I use ECA and HT cheddar cheese.
                  I normally grind, season and mix the meat one day 1, let it sit in the fridge overnight.
                  On day two I mix in the ECA and cheese, stuff and smoke.
                  Since it would be easiest to process all on day one and smoke it on day 2, here’s my question. If I did all of the processing (including inclusion of ECA and cheese and stuffing) on day one and put in the fridge overnight, will the ECA and cheese have any negative affect on the finished product.
                  I realize I could process and smoke the same day due to the ECA and I have done that. However with processing and clean up and smoking and blooming etc it makes for a long day and sometimes I’m about out of energy and rush things.
                  Doing it in a 2 day process has helped me make better product.
                  Thanks!

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                  Cooper1 Add the ECA in the last minute of mixing and don’t overmix to where the capsules will break and you should be fine.

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                    Thanks John, I smoked them last night and they came out perfect as usual. So with that I’m not going to mess around with a good thing!

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                    • C Cooper1

                      Thanks John, I smoked them last night and they came out perfect as usual. So with that I’m not going to mess around with a good thing!

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                      Cooper1 said in Summer sausage question:

                      Thanks John, I smoked them last night and they came out perfect as usual. So with that I’m not going to mess around with a good thing!

                      Wisdom incarnate. Congrats

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