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    bocephus
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    Maybe it is something the preppers could use combination food and glue, what a thought.

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    • J JohnG5
      Real Chicken vs. Plant-Based Chicken

      Real Chicken vs. Plant Based Chicken

      Chick 'N Grind Nutrition Facts
      Chicken Nutrition Facts

      Ingredients

      Tyson All Natural Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast with Rib Meat: chicken and water.

      Simple Truth Emerge Plant-Based Chick ‘N Grind: water, wheat protein, expeller-pressed canola oil, wheat starch, methylcellulose, white rice flour, natural flavor (maltodextrin, salt, hydrolyzed yeast extract, citric acid, sunflower oil, natural flavorings), salt, sugar, tetra potassium diphosphate, sodium carbonate, vitamin E (tocopherol), dehydrated onion, black pepper.

      The Proteins

      To see how real meat products compare to plant-based products when it comes to processing, we ran a side-by-side comparison. In the comparison, a pound of Tyson Chicken Breast and a pound of Simple Truth Emerge Plant-Based Chick ‘N Grind was used to make two separate brats with Excalibur Salsa Bratwurst Seasoning.

      Inspecting the plant-based meat product in the package, the Chick ‘N Grind appeared to have a pasty-like texture but the ropes of the ground product resembled cloth strings or rope. Once it was removed from the package it felt sticky like a glue or caulking sealant.

      Grinding

      Because it appeared the Chick ‘N Grind was already ground once, the real chicken was ground first. After chopping up the breast into smaller pieces it was run through a 3/8 inch plate than a 1/8 inch plate using the Walton’s #22 Grinder.

      After cleaning the grinder, the Chick ‘N Grind was run through a 1/8 plate. The real chicken left a little left-over product in the grinder, but the Chick ‘N Grind stuck to the inside of the grinder like wet cement, making clean up more difficult and losing significant weight of the product.

      The chicken kept from smearing during the grind, however, there was a lot of smearing with the Chick ‘N Grind. The chicken kept some structure after the grind, where the Chick ’N Grind started to mush up.

      Mixing

      Mixing by hand because of the low quantity being processed, there was a noticeable difference between the real chicken and the Chick ‘N Grind. When mixing in the water and the Excalibur Salsa Bratwurst Seasoning with the Chick ‘N Grind it became more like a paste and stuck to gloves. The seasoning did mix into the Chick ‘N Grind well.

      When mixing the chicken it was less adhesive but was more difficult to mix with the seasoning.

      Stuffing

      Using the 7 lb. Sausage Stuffer and 21 mm Clear Collagen Casings the Chick ‘N Grind and the chicken was similar, but the cleanup was not. Once again the Chick ‘N Grind adhered to the inside of the stuffer like wet cement. Both proteins were not difficult to stuff with the small batches. Once stuffed, the Chick ‘N Grind appeared to be almost white, where the chicken had an orangish hue.

      Cooking

      Using the Camp Chef Woodwind Wifi Pellet Grill both brats we cooked on the top rack at 225 F. It took about 15 minutes longer for the Chick ‘N Grind to get to 160 F than the real chicken. During the cooking process, the color of the two proteins changed. The Chick ‘N Grind became a light brown. The chicken lightened to almost white.

      Taste

      There was a significant difference in the taste and feel of the Chick ‘N Grind and the chicken. The Chick ‘N Grind brat had a spongy consistency to it and left an aftertaste. The flavor was dry and subtle. The chicken was a little dry but had some juiciness. The same amount of the Excalibur Salsa Bratwurst Seasoning was added during the mixing but the seasoning flavor stood out more in the chicken.

      Conclusion

      It would be hard to convince someone who enjoys real chicken that Simple Truth Emerge Plant-Based Chick ‘N Grind is an acceptable substitute, even though it is 44 percent protein. The taste and consistency of the Chick ‘N Grind is a major adjustment and would be difficult to overcome. The appearance and feel were also significantly different.

      Processing the Chick ‘N Grind was also an adjustment, mainly because of the extra clean-up after using the equipment. Mixing the product was easier than the chicken but the pasty feel and adhesiveness were unappealing.

      Overall if you enjoy eating real chicken, you will not be satisfied with Simple Truth Emerge Plant-Based Chick ‘N Grind. However, if you are a vegan or vegetarian looking for a source of protein, this product may be right for you.

      Shop waltonsinc.com for Excalibur Salsa Bratwurst Seasoning.

      Shop waltonsinc.com for Walton’s #22 Grinder

      Shop waltonsinc.com for 7 lb. Sausage Stuffer

      Shop waltonsinc.com for 21 mm Clear Collagen Casings

      Shop waltonsinc.com for Camp Chef Woodwind Wifi Pellet Grill

      Watch WaltonsTV Gamebird Gourmet: Sous Vide.

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      JohnG5 There are just some things that are not meant to be. I’ll stick with God’s design for chicken, man seems to screw things up every time he thinks he knows better.

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        HerbcoFood Should I try to winterize my home with it?

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        Dr_Pain
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        JohnG5 said in Real Chicken vs. Plant Based Chicken:

        HerbcoFood Should I try to winterize my home with it?

        I wonder if you could just compress it and let it dehydrate and use in as a pellet replacement for a pellet grill? I am sure it would burn and wonder if it would impart some chicken flavors

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        • ChefC Chef

          JohnG5 There are just some things that are not meant to be. I’ll stick with God’s design for chicken, man seems to screw things up every time he thinks he knows better.

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          bocephus
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          Chef I am with you, I don’t mind vegetarians or vegans but what I don’t understand why they seem to want to have their food to taste like meat.

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            Kudos to Walton’s for trying to provide instructions for the everything EXCEPT the meat sausage for our meatless friends. I just don’t understand, if meat is so repulsive to someone then why try to replicate it?

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            • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

              JohnG5 If it doesn’t work, you just heat it right up and eat it!

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              #20

              HerbcoFood Ability and desire are two different things. lol.

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                JohnG5 There are just some things that are not meant to be. I’ll stick with God’s design for chicken, man seems to screw things up every time he thinks he knows better.

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                Chef 100 percent agreed.

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                  Chef I am with you, I don’t mind vegetarians or vegans but what I don’t understand why they seem to want to have their food to taste like meat.

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                  bocephus Maybe they don’t, because this didn’t.

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                  • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

                    Kudos to Walton’s for trying to provide instructions for the everything EXCEPT the meat sausage for our meatless friends. I just don’t understand, if meat is so repulsive to someone then why try to replicate it?

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                    #23

                    Ridley Acres Try is the key word there. Fail could also be used.

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                      HerbcoFood Ability and desire are two different things. lol.

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                      HerbcoFood
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                      #24

                      JohnG5 Boredom and curiosity after a few cold ones will trump that eventually…

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                      • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

                        JohnG5 Boredom and curiosity after a few cold ones will trump that eventually…

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                        #25

                        HerbcoFood I think even if I fed some to my dog he would look at me with extreme dissappointment.

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                        • J JohnG5

                          HerbcoFood I think even if I fed some to my dog he would look at me with extreme dissappointment.

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                          #26

                          JohnG5 Not if you and the pooch took bites at the same time!!! #inthistogether

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                          • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

                            craigrice Yep, “It’s like so much better”, same with the carbs.

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                            HerbcoFood I agree with you if more sodium makes it wonderful for your body. Yes, I’m lmao.

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                            • J JohnG5
                              Real Chicken vs. Plant-Based Chicken

                              Real Chicken vs. Plant Based Chicken

                              Chick 'N Grind Nutrition Facts
                              Chicken Nutrition Facts

                              Ingredients

                              Tyson All Natural Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast with Rib Meat: chicken and water.

                              Simple Truth Emerge Plant-Based Chick ‘N Grind: water, wheat protein, expeller-pressed canola oil, wheat starch, methylcellulose, white rice flour, natural flavor (maltodextrin, salt, hydrolyzed yeast extract, citric acid, sunflower oil, natural flavorings), salt, sugar, tetra potassium diphosphate, sodium carbonate, vitamin E (tocopherol), dehydrated onion, black pepper.

                              The Proteins

                              To see how real meat products compare to plant-based products when it comes to processing, we ran a side-by-side comparison. In the comparison, a pound of Tyson Chicken Breast and a pound of Simple Truth Emerge Plant-Based Chick ‘N Grind was used to make two separate brats with Excalibur Salsa Bratwurst Seasoning.

                              Inspecting the plant-based meat product in the package, the Chick ‘N Grind appeared to have a pasty-like texture but the ropes of the ground product resembled cloth strings or rope. Once it was removed from the package it felt sticky like a glue or caulking sealant.

                              Grinding

                              Because it appeared the Chick ‘N Grind was already ground once, the real chicken was ground first. After chopping up the breast into smaller pieces it was run through a 3/8 inch plate than a 1/8 inch plate using the Walton’s #22 Grinder.

                              After cleaning the grinder, the Chick ‘N Grind was run through a 1/8 plate. The real chicken left a little left-over product in the grinder, but the Chick ‘N Grind stuck to the inside of the grinder like wet cement, making clean up more difficult and losing significant weight of the product.

                              The chicken kept from smearing during the grind, however, there was a lot of smearing with the Chick ‘N Grind. The chicken kept some structure after the grind, where the Chick ’N Grind started to mush up.

                              Mixing

                              Mixing by hand because of the low quantity being processed, there was a noticeable difference between the real chicken and the Chick ‘N Grind. When mixing in the water and the Excalibur Salsa Bratwurst Seasoning with the Chick ‘N Grind it became more like a paste and stuck to gloves. The seasoning did mix into the Chick ‘N Grind well.

                              When mixing the chicken it was less adhesive but was more difficult to mix with the seasoning.

                              Stuffing

                              Using the 7 lb. Sausage Stuffer and 21 mm Clear Collagen Casings the Chick ‘N Grind and the chicken was similar, but the cleanup was not. Once again the Chick ‘N Grind adhered to the inside of the stuffer like wet cement. Both proteins were not difficult to stuff with the small batches. Once stuffed, the Chick ‘N Grind appeared to be almost white, where the chicken had an orangish hue.

                              Cooking

                              Using the Camp Chef Woodwind Wifi Pellet Grill both brats we cooked on the top rack at 225 F. It took about 15 minutes longer for the Chick ‘N Grind to get to 160 F than the real chicken. During the cooking process, the color of the two proteins changed. The Chick ‘N Grind became a light brown. The chicken lightened to almost white.

                              Taste

                              There was a significant difference in the taste and feel of the Chick ‘N Grind and the chicken. The Chick ‘N Grind brat had a spongy consistency to it and left an aftertaste. The flavor was dry and subtle. The chicken was a little dry but had some juiciness. The same amount of the Excalibur Salsa Bratwurst Seasoning was added during the mixing but the seasoning flavor stood out more in the chicken.

                              Conclusion

                              It would be hard to convince someone who enjoys real chicken that Simple Truth Emerge Plant-Based Chick ‘N Grind is an acceptable substitute, even though it is 44 percent protein. The taste and consistency of the Chick ‘N Grind is a major adjustment and would be difficult to overcome. The appearance and feel were also significantly different.

                              Processing the Chick ‘N Grind was also an adjustment, mainly because of the extra clean-up after using the equipment. Mixing the product was easier than the chicken but the pasty feel and adhesiveness were unappealing.

                              Overall if you enjoy eating real chicken, you will not be satisfied with Simple Truth Emerge Plant-Based Chick ‘N Grind. However, if you are a vegan or vegetarian looking for a source of protein, this product may be right for you.

                              Shop waltonsinc.com for Excalibur Salsa Bratwurst Seasoning.

                              Shop waltonsinc.com for Walton’s #22 Grinder

                              Shop waltonsinc.com for 7 lb. Sausage Stuffer

                              Shop waltonsinc.com for 21 mm Clear Collagen Casings

                              Shop waltonsinc.com for Camp Chef Woodwind Wifi Pellet Grill

                              Watch WaltonsTV Gamebird Gourmet: Sous Vide.

                              div>
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                              JohnG5 I believe that you might get censored on FB if you posted the realities of this plant based product.

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                                JohnG5 I believe that you might get censored on FB if you posted the realities of this plant based product.

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                                zbigjeff Good thing I don’t have a Facebook account then. I deleted it before the last Presidential election.

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                                • J JohnG5

                                  zbigjeff Good thing I don’t have a Facebook account then. I deleted it before the last Presidential election.

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                                  JohnG5 said in Real Chicken vs. Plant Based Chicken:

                                  zbigjeff Good thing I don’t have a Facebook account then. I deleted it before the last Presidential election.

                                  The unfortunate reality is that even though we delete things once it hits the internet its in a data center forever.

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                                  • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

                                    JohnG5 said in Real Chicken vs. Plant Based Chicken:

                                    zbigjeff Good thing I don’t have a Facebook account then. I deleted it before the last Presidential election.

                                    The unfortunate reality is that even though we delete things once it hits the internet its in a data center forever.

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                                    Ridley Acres Thought police?

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                                      Its disgusting how much they listen and record our data.

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                                        #33

                                        Although im a meat guy til i die and would never do a plant based product i gotta throw this out. I see a big discussion was on the salt content, but never mentioned the cholesterol numbers. As well as the protien is pretty close to equal. But lets dig a bit deeper, even though the true chicken label doesnt have it on it, we really need to include the ingredients of the food they take in on a daily and the ingredients used to grow their food that gets imparted in the meat through their diet. As well as the growth hormones that they get injected with to speed up the targeted size/weight for slaughter. I dont know for a fact that they do inject them growth hormones but i wouldnt be a bit surprised if something like that happenes.

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                                        • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

                                          JohnG5 said in Real Chicken vs. Plant Based Chicken:

                                          zbigjeff Good thing I don’t have a Facebook account then. I deleted it before the last Presidential election.

                                          The unfortunate reality is that even though we delete things once it hits the internet its in a data center forever.

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                                          #34

                                          Ridley Acres I was just referring to the “meat” police on that thar internet and the push for “plant base” meats. If they have to use that much sodium instead of spices/herbs to make it taste good, that’s what they don’t want to hear. Just tried to make a “funny” and everyone got serious. GEEZ!!!

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