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  • zbigjeffZ zbigjeff

    Chef People are focused on “easy” and refuse to look elsewhere. They ask me many times: why do you make your own seasonings. Isn’t it just much easier to just buy it from the store? Also, many people are stuck in a rut and won’t try anything else. Sad for them. There are a number of “spices” that are totally underutilized. Cardamom, Coriander, Tarragon, Nutmeg and the different Paprikas to name a few. Every day I discover different combos. Some work and some don’t. LOL

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    YooperDog
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    zbigjeff Chef I think salt is overused as a seasoning, probably because it is cheaper then spice’s. Canning, sausage making, brining, etc… I will use an appropriate amount of salt, but when cooking I look for other ways to impart flavor. There is salt in many items that we use daily and many don’t think about those in their meal as they are adding the salt listed. IMHO

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      zbigjeff Chef I think salt is overused as a seasoning, probably because it is cheaper then spice’s. Canning, sausage making, brining, etc… I will use an appropriate amount of salt, but when cooking I look for other ways to impart flavor. There is salt in many items that we use daily and many don’t think about those in their meal as they are adding the salt listed. IMHO

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      zbigjeff
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      YooperDog Absolutely!!! I try to stay clear of “processed” foods for that reason. There are some that I cannot avoid. But, minimizing their use I think is a good choice on my end. Have a great rest of your day. Your “IMHO” has very good logic consistently. Just Sayin’!!!

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      • zbigjeffZ zbigjeff

        Chef People are focused on “easy” and refuse to look elsewhere. They ask me many times: why do you make your own seasonings. Isn’t it just much easier to just buy it from the store? Also, many people are stuck in a rut and won’t try anything else. Sad for them. There are a number of “spices” that are totally underutilized. Cardamom, Coriander, Tarragon, Nutmeg and the different Paprikas to name a few. Every day I discover different combos. Some work and some don’t. LOL

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        zbigjeff Have you ever visited the site: https://www.spicesinc.com/

        Great place, very great customer service. Can get almost anything there.

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        • YooperDogY YooperDog

          zbigjeff Chef I think salt is overused as a seasoning, probably because it is cheaper then spice’s. Canning, sausage making, brining, etc… I will use an appropriate amount of salt, but when cooking I look for other ways to impart flavor. There is salt in many items that we use daily and many don’t think about those in their meal as they are adding the salt listed. IMHO

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          YooperDog To use the phrase “spot on”. It is overused because of cost, and at our expense.

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          • ChefC Chef

            zbigjeff I think that too many cooks use salt because they don’t know how else to impart flavor through seasonings.

            I remember when I had my restaurant, my food rep asked me where else I was ordering from. They have it down to that much of a science that they know the ratio of protein ordered to how much salt should be ordered.

            When I showed him his bag of salt, only about 1/3 used, he couldn’t believe it. I never used salt to replace good seasonings and spices.

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            Chef I have cut most salt out of my diet and now I am really sensitive to food that has salt in it, it is amazing the flavors that come through when you aren’t covering them with salt.

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            • B bocephus

              Chef I have cut most salt out of my diet and now I am really sensitive to food that has salt in it, it is amazing the flavors that come through when you aren’t covering them with salt.

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              bocephus That and copious amounts of hot sauce, the people out there who put hot sauce on everything must hate tasting what they eat.

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              • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

                bocephus That and copious amounts of hot sauce, the people out there who put hot sauce on everything must hate tasting what they eat.

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                HerbcoFood I have always said, pain is not a flavor.

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                • ChefC Chef

                  zbigjeff Have you ever visited the site: https://www.spicesinc.com/

                  Great place, very great customer service. Can get almost anything there.

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                  zbigjeff
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                  Chef I did not. But, now have it as a bookmark. I shop physically at Gordon’s Food Service (GFS- Restaurant Supply open to public) and online at ISpice. The ISpice collection is fairly good. But, definitely not happy about the 3 types of ground Cinnamon and Za’atar I just received. Other selections from there have been adequate. Will have to give your place a try next time I need something. Because I haven’t cooked for the masses or groups in the last year, my supplies have not dwindled as expected. But, that action is picking up this weekend. Thanks for the option. Would rather accept a “personal” opinion than the one’s online. Also, do you mostly order Straight herbs/spices[ex tumeric] or blended/created seasonings [ex: steak blend for tomahawks] ???

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                  • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

                    bocephus That and copious amounts of hot sauce, the people out there who put hot sauce on everything must hate tasting what they eat.

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                    HerbcoFood I like hot sauce and hot salsa but not so much that it drowns out the other flavors. I have lived in NM for over 36 years and now like food hotter than when I first moved here, but again I like to taste all flavors involved.

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                      HerbcoFood I like hot sauce and hot salsa but not so much that it drowns out the other flavors. I have lived in NM for over 36 years and now like food hotter than when I first moved here, but again I like to taste all flavors involved.

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                      bocephus Right, I get it to add flavor, my comment was in regards to some who literally put it on everything, I mean everything. Some probably have blown out their taste buds so that hot sauce is all they can taste.

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                      • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

                        bocephus That and copious amounts of hot sauce, the people out there who put hot sauce on everything must hate tasting what they eat.

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                        HerbcoFood said in Best Hamburger Recipe?:

                        bocephus That and copious amounts of hot sauce, the people out there who put hot sauce on everything must hate tasting what they eat.

                        HEY!!! I use hot sauce on a lot of things. Actually I use hot sauce as eye drops. I love that stuff LOL!!!

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                          HerbcoFood said in Best Hamburger Recipe?:

                          bocephus That and copious amounts of hot sauce, the people out there who put hot sauce on everything must hate tasting what they eat.

                          HEY!!! I use hot sauce on a lot of things. Actually I use hot sauce as eye drops. I love that stuff LOL!!!

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                          bocephus
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                          Dr_Pain Nothing wrong with a little hot sauce, just don’t want it to be the only thing I taste.

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                          • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

                            bocephus Right, I get it to add flavor, my comment was in regards to some who literally put it on everything, I mean everything. Some probably have blown out their taste buds so that hot sauce is all they can taste.

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                            HerbcoFood I use it as a seasoning. I don’t understand dousing whatever with it. Especially, when I prepare something to have a certain effect. A little dab is a condiment. Dousing is just eradicating what I did. IMHO!!

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                              zbigjeff I agree with that , in the right amt. it adds a nice pepper flavor

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                              • zbigjeffZ zbigjeff

                                HerbcoFood I use it as a seasoning. I don’t understand dousing whatever with it. Especially, when I prepare something to have a certain effect. A little dab is a condiment. Dousing is just eradicating what I did. IMHO!!

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                                zbigjeff said in Best Hamburger Recipe?:

                                HerbcoFood I use it as a seasoning. I don’t understand dousing whatever with it. Especially, when I prepare something to have a certain effect. A little dab is a condiment. Dousing is just eradicating what I did. IMHO!!

                                I completely agree!! I do use a lot of sauces but it is there with purpose. For example, in a gumbo I use it for the spice but primarily because the acidity of the vinegar cuts the fat. Chef can chime in but any meal should contain sweet, savory, salty, spicy and acidic components to be in balance. Same with texture. You need a balance of soft, chewy, crunchy etc… I use a lot of difference hot sauces for the above flavor structure but I do like a solid spice profile.

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                                  zbigjeff said in Best Hamburger Recipe?:

                                  HerbcoFood I use it as a seasoning. I don’t understand dousing whatever with it. Especially, when I prepare something to have a certain effect. A little dab is a condiment. Dousing is just eradicating what I did. IMHO!!

                                  I completely agree!! I do use a lot of sauces but it is there with purpose. For example, in a gumbo I use it for the spice but primarily because the acidity of the vinegar cuts the fat. Chef can chime in but any meal should contain sweet, savory, salty, spicy and acidic components to be in balance. Same with texture. You need a balance of soft, chewy, crunchy etc… I use a lot of difference hot sauces for the above flavor structure but I do like a solid spice profile.

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                                  Dr_Pain SO TRUE. I believe that serving a meal should be something everyone can eat. I like a bit of spicy, but NEVER at the expense of others eating the meal. BALANCE, as Dr_Pain says, is critical.

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                                    Dr_Pain SO TRUE. I believe that serving a meal should be something everyone can eat. I like a bit of spicy, but NEVER at the expense of others eating the meal. BALANCE, as Dr_Pain says, is critical.

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                                    Chef I agree, when we make enchiladas for a crowd we make them so everyone can enjoy them and then have salsa and green or red chile at varying degrees of heat for people to add. When we make them for ourselves we make them hotter.

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                                      Chef I agree, when we make enchiladas for a crowd we make them so everyone can enjoy them and then have salsa and green or red chile at varying degrees of heat for people to add. When we make them for ourselves we make them hotter.

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                                      bocephus said in Best Hamburger Recipe?:

                                      Chef I agree, when we make enchiladas for a crowd we make them so everyone can enjoy them and then have salsa and green or red chile at varying degrees of heat for people to add. When we make them for ourselves we make them hotter.

                                      You see Chef bocephus, I am a rebel. I am here to challenge and educate the palate. When I make Thaï food I do tame it down just because it is so f…n singe your hair hot, but I am unapologetic about my cooking. It is what it is (and should be) and it is here to appreciate or not, but you will have an experience. Fortunately I’ve never had but one inedible dish in my 30+ years of entertaining people

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