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Pk 100 blew up

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    Pro Smoker Service
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    Contact Pro Smoker direct at: info@pro-smoker.com
    While pressure can build up in the unit when using pellets or chips, it’s very uncommon for this to occur using sawdust (dry or wet). Additional information is needed as there are zero instances of this happening with sawdust.

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    • P Pro Smoker Service

      Contact Pro Smoker direct at: info@pro-smoker.com
      While pressure can build up in the unit when using pellets or chips, it’s very uncommon for this to occur using sawdust (dry or wet). Additional information is needed as there are zero instances of this happening with sawdust.

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      Phantom
      Yearling
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      Pro Smoker Service Sent them a email, we’ll see what they say.

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        skibumben
        PK100 Masterbuilt Big Green Egg
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        I wonder if what you experienced is similar to a dust explosion https://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_General_Facts/OSHAcombustibledust.html

        Perhaps with dry dust and bottom vent closed it created the environment for this. I’m no engineer or safety expert but the hazard you experienced sounds similar.

        I ain’t scared.

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          steve4102
          Yearling
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          I too sent them an email.
          No reply.
          Very disappointing

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            Jonathon
            Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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            steve4102 You sent them an email to the info@pro-smoker.com address above and they didn’t respond to that? You could tag the group again if you want them to see it here, they seem to have created an account for this topic.

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              steve4102 You sent them an email to the info@pro-smoker.com address above and they didn’t respond to that? You could tag the group again if you want them to see it here, they seem to have created an account for this topic.

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              steve4102
              Yearling
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              Jonathon said in Pk 100 blew up:

              steve4102 You sent them an email to the info@pro-smoker.com address above and they didn’t respond to that? You could tag the group again if you want them to see it here, they seem to have created an account for this topic.

              Yes, and no they did not respond.

              Got a link to this “account” they created?

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                Steve, we have been replying via email to what we believe has been you since the 23rd and have had no reply. Can you call us direct at 800-328-8313 and ask for Earl or Jeff

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                • P Pro Smoker Service

                  Steve, we have been replying via email to what we believe has been you since the 23rd and have had no reply. Can you call us direct at 800-328-8313 and ask for Earl or Jeff

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                  Tex_77
                  Team Blue Power User Traeger Primo Grills PK Grills Canning Sous Vide Community Moderator
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                  Pro Smoker Service said in Pk 100 blew up:

                  Steve, we have been replying via email to what we believe has been you since the 23rd and have had no reply. Can you call us direct at 800-328-8313 and ask for Earl or Jeff

                  steve4102 see the quoted post.

                  Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                    steve4102
                    Yearling
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                    You have not been replying to my email account.

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                      Dwight Williams
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                      Been busy. Too many doctors appointments. Sorry. Heart catheterization Thursday as well.

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                      • Tex_77T Tex_77

                        Pro Smoker Service said in Pk 100 blew up:

                        Steve, we have been replying via email to what we believe has been you since the 23rd and have had no reply. Can you call us direct at 800-328-8313 and ask for Earl or Jeff

                        steve4102 see the quoted post.

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                        Dwight Williams
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                        Tex_77 not me?? I didn’t send email.

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                          Dwight Williams
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                          I think it must have been Steve 4102

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                            steve4102
                            Yearling
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                            I got this last night.

                            It is the first Email correspondence I received on the subject.

                            Steve,
                            I apologize for the delayed reply as I’ve been working with the customer you referenced below from Walton’s website and his name is also Steve….in my mind, I had blended you both together. While we’ve got the other Steve taken care of I again apologize as I realize your inquiry has been idle.

                            We have not ever heard of this happening and we’ve had the PK in existence for almost 40 years with literally thousands of them in the field. There have been 3 instances where the smoker sides buckled when pellets were used…twice by consumers and once by our testing, but never before with sawdust. Pellets or wood chunks can absorb a great amount of heat and if ember is not created, you can get pressure to build up and once the temp gets high enough, along with the wrong mix of air flow, you get that massive ignition/combustion and pressure release. That’s why we over-mention the use of only sawdust for smoke within the first 4 pages of the manual.

                            We are having that unit brought back to our facility but there will be limited testing we can do on it. The customer is adamant that he only had sawdust in the smoke pan, so we can only assume that he got very high heat on the element without an ember starting and once temps got to that high enough point, airflow caused that ignition and release of pressure. But he also mentioned that this occurred in under 2 minutes and it would be very difficult to get that type of pressure to build up that quickly. We may never fully know the root cause of this. For my personal use, I do “slightly” moisten the sawdust when I’m smoking. It gives me just a slight amount of humidity in the chamber which is great for smoke distribution to the product when smoking. That being said, there are plenty out there who do not moisten the sawdust.

                            I also use my index finger and create a dimple in the center of the sawdust….the center of the pan is the hottest in smoke setting (625 low watt setting) and that allows oxygen to the wood…wood to the heat…to give me quickest/most thorough smoke. I hope that made sense, but if you have any questions, do not hesitate to reach out to me directly. I’d be happy to help where I can.

                            Thanks for reaching out to us and I hope your move forward with your Pro Smoker plan……you will absolutely love it.

                            Jeff Warren
                            Account Executive
                            Pro Smoker ‘N Roaster / Vortron
                            Phone: (920)-387-5255 Ext. 147
                            Cell: (262)388-3839

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                              ButcherBrown
                              PK100
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                              #36

                              I wonder if these type of cookers would benefit from a pressure relief valve or if it is not common enough to worry about.

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                                I wonder if these type of cookers would benefit from a pressure relief valve or if it is not common enough to worry about.

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                                twilliams
                                Power User PK100 Regular Contributors Team Grey
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                                ButcherBrown typically you dont have that much “pressure” in these units as they are double ventilated. One intake at the bottom door and an exhaust out the top. That neutralises the cabin pressure. What it looks like to me, going back to my firefighter days is what they call a back draft. All the burning hot gases depleted the oxygen, then the oxygen was reintroduced which causes the volatile environment and the excessive gases to reignite which causes your pressure build up in sealed or contained environments

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                                  I wonder if these type of cookers would benefit from a pressure relief valve or if it is not common enough to worry about.

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                                  TexLaw
                                  Team Orange PK100 Sous Vide Power User
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                                  ButcherBrown There is a pressure relief valve in that the chimney on the top does not completely seal–there’s about a quarter-inch gap all around the inside diameter of the chimney even when it is “closed.”

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                                    Phantom
                                    Yearling
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                                    Update on the smoker, I can not thank Jeff and his team enough for helping me resolve my issue. The customer service that I recieved from Pro Smoker was over the top to say the least. They got me back smoking in short order, If you are looking for a smoker this one should be at the top of your list. Thanks again Jeff.

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                                      Update on the smoker, I can not thank Jeff and his team enough for helping me resolve my issue. The customer service that I recieved from Pro Smoker was over the top to say the least. They got me back smoking in short order, If you are looking for a smoker this one should be at the top of your list. Thanks again Jeff.

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                                      twilliams
                                      Power User PK100 Regular Contributors Team Grey
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                                      Phantom any explanation on thoughts of diagnosis?

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                                        Yearling
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                                        My only thought after speaking with Jeff was that I had it on high, switched it to low for smoking but didn’t give it time to cool the burner before putting dry sawdust on? Just my thoughts im sure they are looking into it

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                                          My only thought after speaking with Jeff was that I had it on high, switched it to low for smoking but didn’t give it time to cool the burner before putting dry sawdust on? Just my thoughts im sure they are looking into it

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                                          glen
                                          Regular Contributors Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Power User Meat Hack Winner Veteran
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                                          Phantom I’m glad you were very pleased with their response and action
                                          May I ask, what was the response and action?

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                                          Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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