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  • J JoeB

    All very good points. As you might guess. I know a lot about sausage making. But nothing about VAC chambers. Never saw one in person. I stand corrected. Had a relationship like that once😇

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    JoeB They are a real game changer and a whole different operation. They a definitely not like the foodsaver. They take a bit longer and the first time you use it, you wonder if it is really working, then poof it seals. The sticker shock is what kills you at first, but after you figure out what you have spent on bags and vacuum machines over the years, it makes sense. One example 1000 10"x13" bags for Chamber Sealer from Waltons $75, 100 8"x12" vacuum sealer bags $22, it adds up quick. And if you were buying a quality vacuum sealer, they weren’t cheap either.

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      JoeB They are a real game changer and a whole different operation. They a definitely not like the foodsaver. They take a bit longer and the first time you use it, you wonder if it is really working, then poof it seals. The sticker shock is what kills you at first, but after you figure out what you have spent on bags and vacuum machines over the years, it makes sense. One example 1000 10"x13" bags for Chamber Sealer from Waltons $75, 100 8"x12" vacuum sealer bags $22, it adds up quick. And if you were buying a quality vacuum sealer, they weren’t cheap either.

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      johnsbrewhouse Thanks, i have a Weston 2300, they’re not cheap. Worked well for the last 10ys Just blew out a heating element yesterday in the middle of packing 60lbs of sausage. Had to finish it up with a food saver. So now is the time to shop around, and i did order the replacement parts. Just a good excuse for an upgrade.

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        Has anyone used textured vac bags in a vac chamber? Also saw the VP230 on sale free shipping for $1,179 1/2hp, higher rated vacuum and an inch more width chamber. Oil rotary pump. Looking for opines before i buy. Thanks

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          Also want to say thanks for all the great info and opinions i received ref. vac chambers. . . . I learned a lot. Work in progress.

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          • J JoeB

            Larry Macaluso That is a great tip to use the cheap foodsaver for bag making. Thanks

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            JoeB said in Chambered Sealers:

            Larry Macaluso That is a great tip to use the cheap foodsaver for bag making. Thanks

            I just turn down the vacuum time on my chamber sealer to one second when I make custom size bags

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              https://www.costco.com/maxvac-pro-chamber-vacuum-sealer-.product.100536866.html
              Costco not a bad deal!

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                https://www.costco.com/maxvac-pro-chamber-vacuum-sealer-.product.100536866.html
                Costco not a bad deal!

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                @s-a-m looks good but can’t find the chamber height. Fat bob said 3”. (I think)

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                • J JoeB

                  Has anyone used textured vac bags in a vac chamber? Also saw the VP230 on sale free shipping for $1,179 1/2hp, higher rated vacuum and an inch more width chamber. Oil rotary pump. Looking for opines before i buy. Thanks

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                  JoeB While you can used the textured bags in a chamber vacuum sealer, they are typically more expensive than the non-textured bags.

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                  • J JoeB

                    Has anyone used textured vac bags in a vac chamber? Also saw the VP230 on sale free shipping for $1,179 1/2hp, higher rated vacuum and an inch more width chamber. Oil rotary pump. Looking for opines before i buy. Thanks

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                    JoeB The textured external bags work fine in the Vacmaster machines, The VP215 is a lighter machine weight wise. You have to look at what you are going to use it for to justify the cost as well. All the Vacmasters reach the same vacuum rate, some take longer than others. You can only reach a certain amount of absolute vacuum in our atmosphere. Look carefully, most places don’t have them in stock and are taking orders for shipment in April. They are coming from overseas.

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                    • J JoeB

                      @s-a-m looks good but can’t find the chamber height. Fat bob said 3”. (I think)

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                      JoeB said in Chambered Sealers:

                      @s-a-m looks good but can’t find the chamber height. Fat bob said 3”. (I think)

                      Lem’s site says 3-1/4" deep

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                        I have a VacMaster VP112.
                        I sometimes use textured bags but had enough tiny seal leaks I quickly double seal with an external sealer, no problem with smooth bags.
                        Others do not seem to have that problem so it may be that I have slightly defective machine

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                          https://www.costco.com/maxvac-pro-chamber-vacuum-sealer-.product.100536866.html
                          Costco not a bad deal!

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                          @s-a-m Just a note, that’s an LEM product. Lem puts out a fair product for the money, and I’ve bought fm them. When they were first up and running I even did a little phone tech support with them. What i have seen is that if you buy fm a 3rd party vendor dirt cheap, they chintz on the warranty because the vendor bought bulk with the understanding that the vendor would support the warranty.

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                            I have a VacMaster VP112.
                            I sometimes use textured bags but had enough tiny seal leaks I quickly double seal with an external sealer, no problem with smooth bags.
                            Others do not seem to have that problem so it may be that I have slightly defective machine

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                            glen Thanks

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                              I have a VacMaster VP112.
                              I sometimes use textured bags but had enough tiny seal leaks I quickly double seal with an external sealer, no problem with smooth bags.
                              Others do not seem to have that problem so it may be that I have slightly defective machine

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                              glen It’s a pretty common problem with the textured bags. The failure rate is pretty bad, thus my choice to go to a chamber sealer. It didn’t matter whose bags I bought, I have always got leakers with the external bags.

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                                JoeB The textured external bags work fine in the Vacmaster machines, The VP215 is a lighter machine weight wise. You have to look at what you are going to use it for to justify the cost as well. All the Vacmasters reach the same vacuum rate, some take longer than others. You can only reach a certain amount of absolute vacuum in our atmosphere. Look carefully, most places don’t have them in stock and are taking orders for shipment in April. They are coming from overseas.

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                                johnsbrewhouse Vacmaster said vp220 will do 26", 230 will do 29-30". 32 is max absolute… Never gets there. Thanks

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                                  JoeB While you can used the textured bags in a chamber vacuum sealer, they are typically more expensive than the non-textured bags.

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                                  Chef thanks, I have about 1000 vac bags, all sizes for my weston 2300, Just wanted to use them up if they would work on a VP230

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                                    JoeB said in Chambered Sealers:

                                    @s-a-m looks good but can’t find the chamber height. Fat bob said 3”. (I think)

                                    Lem’s site says 3-1/4" deep

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                                    @s-a-m said in Chambered Sealers:

                                    JoeB said in Chambered Sealers:

                                    @s-a-m looks good but can’t find the chamber height. Fat bob said 3”. (I think)

                                    Lem’s site says 3-1/4" deep

                                    That’s a 1.75" loss compared to Vacmaster. Thanks

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                                      johnsbrewhouse Vacmaster said vp220 will do 26", 230 will do 29-30". 32 is max absolute… Never gets there. Thanks

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                                      JoeB They are rated at a maximum of 29.75 inches of mercury. 30" of Merc is impossible in our atmosphere and considered a perfect vacuum. The VP220 is just like the VP215 except that it’s maintenance free (oil less)

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                                        The textured bags do work, just be aware you may have leakage due to the quality of the bags. They also slip a bit on the sealing bar if you don’t have them over it far enough.

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                                          JoeB They are rated at a maximum of 29.75 inches of mercury. 30" of Merc is impossible in our atmosphere and considered a perfect vacuum. The VP220 is just like the VP215 except that it’s maintenance free (oil less)

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                                          johnsbrewhouse said in Chambered Sealers:

                                          JoeB They are rated at a maximum of 29.75 inches of mercury. 30" of Merc is impossible in our atmosphere and considered a perfect vacuum. The VP220 is just like the VP215 except that it’s maintenance free (oil less)

                                          I stand corrected , that’s the 2nd thing that stops working when you get old… You made me ck. . . . And that’s a good thing because i am always in agreement with myself😊 The specs on the VP230 is by manufacture 29" It’s stated that the VP220 will only do 26". Thanks

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