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First time snack sticks and thermo processing

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  • processheadP Offline
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    processhead
    Regular Contributors Power User
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    #13

    Modern smokers have a lot of controls and temp sensors which we have come to be very dependent on.
    It is good to have an accurate backup thermometer that you can trust when things just don’t seem right.

    Paul

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      taufrecht
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      #14

      Agreed I have a Meatometer I bought at Waltons. I wish I bought the 4 pack instead of just the single. Love love it

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      • smokinbubbaS smokinbubba

        Sous vide = going to bed at a decent hour.

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        Regular Contributors Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Team Blue Power User Military Veterans
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        smokinbubba My first run of snack sticks with the sous vide was today.
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        • GWG8541G GWG8541

          smokinbubba My first run of snack sticks with the sous vide was today.
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          YooperDog
          Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
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          #16

          GWG8541 looking good. I use a turkey roaster right now, but will be going that route hopefully soon. It is like going going from bottling to kegging.

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            #17

            You don’t have to put them in a bag when submersing in the water. Those look so much better than mine. We made 275 lbs of sausage including 50lbs of Willies snack sticks today. I smoked 50 lbs of habanero mango brats. The best of the best.

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              processhead
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              #18

              I like my finished snack sticks somewhat dry and I am wondering about if that is even possible when finishing sticks in hot water? The only thing I can think of is letting them air dry in the refrigerator after all thermal processing is done, before packaging.

              Paul

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              • processheadP processhead

                I like my finished snack sticks somewhat dry and I am wondering about if that is even possible when finishing sticks in hot water? The only thing I can think of is letting them air dry in the refrigerator after all thermal processing is done, before packaging.

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                processhead I let mine air dry in the fridge and they get like a salami and a solid snap. Kabanosy makes a good stick, growing up the local shops would have them hanging on the rack with their other cured sausages in varying stages of dryness. Probably wouldn’t float today.

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                  processhead I let mine air dry in the fridge and they get like a salami and a solid snap. Kabanosy makes a good stick, growing up the local shops would have them hanging on the rack with their other cured sausages in varying stages of dryness. Probably wouldn’t float today.

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                  YooperDog I do the same thing, I’ll let them in the fridge uncovered a couple days, do the same with my whole muscle jerky

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                    Jonathon
                    Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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                    #21

                    taufrecht 30 hours for snack sticks is way too long so there are a few things that could be going on here. (sorry, I know we’ve kind of moved on but I wanted to point this out)
                    You might have gotten case hardening, where the outside of the casing either cooks or dries too quickly. At -8 I hope you warmed up your smoker first and then tried to keep the doors open for short periods while you loaded it? Adding humidity is a good way to increase the thermal processing energy as it fights off the stall and helps convey the heat more effectively into the meat.
                    Last thing, it COULD be an issue with your PK-100. I remember someone else saying something similar recently. I hope they don’t have a bad batch of controllers or something out there. Using a thermometer that can check the ambient temperature in the smoker is probably idea.

                    And, of course, finishing in water speeds everything up!

                    Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                    • processheadP processhead

                      I like my finished snack sticks somewhat dry and I am wondering about if that is even possible when finishing sticks in hot water? The only thing I can think of is letting them air dry in the refrigerator after all thermal processing is done, before packaging.

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                      Team Orange Sous Vide Regular Contributors
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                      #22

                      processhead i bloom mine with a fan blowing on them. Works good.

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                      • smokinbubbaS smokinbubba

                        processhead i bloom mine with a fan blowing on them. Works good.

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                        twilliams
                        Power User PK100 Regular Contributors Team Grey
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                        smokinbubba the term “bloom” i dont quite understand, the look of my snack stix, summer sausage and ring bologna has the same look from finished out of smoker to 20 minute ice bath to 1 hour set dry time and after overnight in fridge before packaging. So not really sure on the term or what it is supposed to do

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                          Bloom is basically a resting period after the ice bath. Some smoked products will develop a nice mahogany color. It also dries a little. It really helps my sticks that were finished in sous vide. Didnt see much color change in thise tho.

                          If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy - Red Green

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                            I used the MEATER thermometer. The internal ambient temperature never got close to the setting of the PK100. I even set it up to 250 degrees at high watt setting. The temperature never got above 150.
                            What would be my next step?

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                              I used the MEATER thermometer. The internal ambient temperature never got close to the setting of the PK100. I even set it up to 250 degrees at high watt setting. The temperature never got above 150.
                              What would be my next step?

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                              twilliams
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                              taufrecht call customer service at proSmoker

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                                wrote on last edited by processhead
                                #27

                                Could be several things causing that.

                                1. Bad temperature probe telling the controls that it is hotter than it actually is, so the controller doesn’t call for the element to turn on.
                                2. Bad control board.
                                3. Bad or intermittent wire connection between control board and the element.
                                4. Bad heating element. Usually when they go bad, you will get zero heat .
                                  Depending on your skills and comfort troubleshooting electrical power equipment, you may want to have a technician look at it for you.

                                Paul

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                                • processheadP processhead

                                  Could be several things causing that.

                                  1. Bad temperature probe telling the controls that it is hotter than it actually is, so the controller doesn’t call for the element to turn on.
                                  2. Bad control board.
                                  3. Bad or intermittent wire connection between control board and the element.
                                  4. Bad heating element. Usually when they go bad, you will get zero heat .
                                    Depending on your skills and comfort troubleshooting electrical power equipment, you may want to have a technician look at it for you.
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                                  twilliams
                                  Power User PK100 Regular Contributors Team Grey
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                                  #28

                                  processhead i assume it is under warranty, if that is the case only a certified technician can dive into it.

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                                    I read that on the directions
                                    I bought it from Walton’s last month.
                                    Sure hope they will stand behind the warranty

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                                      processhead
                                      Regular Contributors Power User
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                                      Yes, if its under warranty, exhaust all those options first.

                                      Paul

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                                        taufrecht I have forwarded your information to the manufacturer to see if they know what this might be. Hopefully they will respond quickly with a “fix” if not it is possible that they will need to contact you directly. I will let you know what they say asap.

                                        Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                                          Veteran PK100 Team Blue
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                                          Jonathon, please post what you find out from the manufacture. I had previously submitted a request for help from the group for a similar occurrence with my PK-100 and my first and only so far attempt to make snack sticks. I got some suggestions to try the next time but overall I came away with the conclusion that it can’t keep up with Iowa winters at either temp setting.

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