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Using the Best Fat to Lean Ratio In Making Sausage

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    What is the best fat to add for the 30% in the 70/30 ratio? I’m using venison for the 70% and making sticks :-).

    Is the fat part readily available at most grocery stores? Thanks!

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      What is the best fat to add for the 30% in the 70/30 ratio? I’m using venison for the 70% and making sticks :-).

      Is the fat part readily available at most grocery stores? Thanks!

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      mtnjim
      I’ve always used pork trimmings. I go to a local meat locker and purchase by the pound then grind with 3/16 plate. Or at grocery store buy ground pork without any spices or seasoning.
      Joe

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        mtnjim what Roadster is recommending is the best solution if you can’t get your hands on plain pork fat. If you have a good local butcher then I would still say get pure fat. but pork trimmings are probably the best replacement but they can be difficult to get too, so pork butts are the next best thing!

        An important tip is to add the fat during the grinding process, otherwise, you run the risk of the fat not really mixing in with the meat. instead what you get is clumps of fat that have been surrounded by the proteins and that can cause issues.

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          mtnjim what Roadster is recommending is the best solution if you can’t get your hands on plain pork fat. If you have a good local butcher then I would still say get pure fat. but pork trimmings are probably the best replacement but they can be difficult to get too, so pork butts are the next best thing!

          An important tip is to add the fat during the grinding process, otherwise, you run the risk of the fat not really mixing in with the meat. instead what you get is clumps of fat that have been surrounded by the proteins and that can cause issues.

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          Jonathon So to add the fat during the grinding process, how do you do that? Alternate grinding a little lean meat with grinding some of the pork fat?

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            Jonathon So to add the fat during the grinding process, how do you do that? Alternate grinding a little lean meat with grinding some of the pork fat?

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            mtnjim That is exactly how you’d add the fat. By doing it that way it gets mixed in with the meat and makes it easier come mixing time to ensure you have good dispersion of the fat. At least that’s what I’ve done and it works great for me.

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              mtnjim What @boudreaux says is correct, you either just alternate or put the fat in with the meat after the first grind and then mix it a little with your hands and then grind it again!

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                Would you add fat in making snack sticks or just for making different types of sausages ?

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                  revid I’d absolutely add pork fat if you are making a snack stick out of any wild game or lean meat. 80/20 is the absolute lowest I would go before starting to use additives like Cold Phosphate and Carrot Fiber to prevent it from drying out.
                  Summer Sausage and Snack Sticks are very similar processes aside from size and seasoning and smoke schedule.

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                    Thanks Bud, just tried to make some but used only lean meat. Looks ok but the casings didn’t shrivel up like you see other snack sticks. I used 17 mm mahogany casings. Put in my Bradley smoker, smoked low(110-120) for an hour then gradually up to 150. That’s the highest I could get it to go cause smoking out in my shed and it’s cold outside, despite having a fire on in shed. Had it going for about 7 hrs but only smoked( used 5 brickettes) for an hour. Took out then cooled off in cold water food few minutes. Have yet to try but looks ok.

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                      revid You really need to get the internal temp up to 160 degrees for food safety. In the future if you have that problem I’d transfer them to the oven to finish them off to make sure you get that internal temp up where it needs to be. That 160 degree temp is where you kill off the harmful

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                        What is the best fat to add for the 30% in the 70/30 ratio? I’m using venison for the 70% and making sticks :-).

                        Is the fat part readily available at most grocery stores? Thanks!

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                        mtnjim I’ve made two 10lb batches of venison/pork snack sticks. I used 2:1 ratio of lean venison and port butt. I smoked using a Cook Shack model 55 smoker and started low (120F) without smoke and door ajar. I added smoke the 2nd hour and ramped up the heat every hour x 3 until the batch reached approx 160F in 4 hours. They taste and look great.

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