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  • TexLawT TexLaw

    Chef It’s all a matter of taste. I love using mesquite, but just a little and only with beef or sausage. It’s potent stuff. It also has to be very well seasoned wood, and you have to have a clean fire. Mess any of that up, and it can get acrid rather quickly.

    Of course, that doesn’t mean that anyone has to like it, even then. It could be that I just like a touch of bitter.

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    TexLaw You are exactly right. Well seasoned, hot and clean burn and mesquite can be good. It’s not just a wood that can be used without knowing how to use it properly.

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      blackbetty61 (bam ba lam!) Been a while since I have seen you post, welcome back if you’ve been doing other things or welcome back to posting if you have been lurking, or tell me if I am just an idiot and haven’t been noticing? Tex_77 already called it but I am VERY much a fan of the Pa’s Black Bull Soluble for Prime Rib. I also like the marinade but for a Prime Rib (or standing Rib ((thanks TexLaw and Chef)) I like injecting more. It is a thick cut and you will struggle to get the seasoning all the way into the center.

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      • JonathonJ Jonathon

        blackbetty61 (bam ba lam!) Been a while since I have seen you post, welcome back if you’ve been doing other things or welcome back to posting if you have been lurking, or tell me if I am just an idiot and haven’t been noticing? Tex_77 already called it but I am VERY much a fan of the Pa’s Black Bull Soluble for Prime Rib. I also like the marinade but for a Prime Rib (or standing Rib ((thanks TexLaw and Chef)) I like injecting more. It is a thick cut and you will struggle to get the seasoning all the way into the center.

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        Jonathon Probably a taste preference, but with real USDA Prime roast, I like the natural flavor of the prime rib. With a good Au Jus and just a bit of a great horseradish sauce, the prime rib flavor just pops out.

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        • ChefC Chef

          Jonathon Probably a taste preference, but with real USDA Prime roast, I like the natural flavor of the prime rib. With a good Au Jus and just a bit of a great horseradish sauce, the prime rib flavor just pops out.

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          Chef I have a cater friend who actually perfers to cook choice ribeye roasts, as he feels there is less waster, and his clients don’t want to bite into a huge piece of fat. I think he goes as far as removing the spinalis and trimming that layer of fat out, and putting it back on with meat glue.

          Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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            Jonathon, I’m with Chef with regard to a true USDA Prime. I’m not worried about getting the flavor of the outside to the inside. What I rub around the outside is more condiment than ingredient. I’m the same way with a Choice rib roast, too. I wouldn’t think of marinating a good rib eye to the point that I changed it all the way through, either.

            Now, for something much more bland, sure.

            Tex_77 Be sure to tell your friend not to dare messing with my rib roast like that. I love that fat!

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            • JonathonJ Jonathon

              blackbetty61 (bam ba lam!) Been a while since I have seen you post, welcome back if you’ve been doing other things or welcome back to posting if you have been lurking, or tell me if I am just an idiot and haven’t been noticing? Tex_77 already called it but I am VERY much a fan of the Pa’s Black Bull Soluble for Prime Rib. I also like the marinade but for a Prime Rib (or standing Rib ((thanks TexLaw and Chef)) I like injecting more. It is a thick cut and you will struggle to get the seasoning all the way into the center.

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              Jonathon no you’re not an idiot just took a break and summer is usually busy on the farm…haven’t been doing much smoking lately…but hopefully that’s gonna change…glad to be back. Planning on making prime rib for the in-laws for a early Christmas next month what better guinea pigs than the in-laws 😂😂

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              • Tex_77T Tex_77

                Chef I have a cater friend who actually perfers to cook choice ribeye roasts, as he feels there is less waster, and his clients don’t want to bite into a huge piece of fat. I think he goes as far as removing the spinalis and trimming that layer of fat out, and putting it back on with meat glue.

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                Tex_77 When I cooked my first whole rib roast I was terrified. Screw up and it will cost your dollars and disappointment…I feel bad anytime I mess up good. Lol. I went with an Alton brown method on that occasion and it worked out better than expected…he’s spot on with any recipe I’ve tried.

                Better Living Through BBQ!

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                  Joe Hell Eventually when we do the Meatgistics Meet Up we have to figure out a skills competition or something like that. Probably 2022 at this rate!

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                  • JonathonJ Jonathon

                    Joe Hell Eventually when we do the Meatgistics Meet Up we have to figure out a skills competition or something like that. Probably 2022 at this rate!

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                    Jonathon sharpen you knifes sir, its game on!

                    Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                    • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                      Tex_77 When I cooked my first whole rib roast I was terrified. Screw up and it will cost your dollars and disappointment…I feel bad anytime I mess up good. Lol. I went with an Alton brown method on that occasion and it worked out better than expected…he’s spot on with any recipe I’ve tried.

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                      Joe Hell for as goofy as Alton can be, he pretty much has it down to a science.

                      Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                      • Tex_77T Tex_77

                        Joe Hell for as goofy as Alton can be, he pretty much has it down to a science.

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                        Tex_77 Alton is down with the science of things for sure. If I’m ever in doubt I consult his method

                        Better Living Through BBQ!

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                          Never did it with a standing rib roast but I have deep fried many round and chuck roasts which were the buzz of the party (in a good way LOL)

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                          Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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                          • ChefC Chef

                            TexLaw You are so correct about the Prime Rib USDA grading. I didn’t state that in my posting, but I always use USDA PRIME for my prime rib. About the only difference is I never smoke with mesquite. While great for grilling, I find that the smoking using it turns a bit bitter.

                            Sounds like great minds think alike!

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                            Chef Try smoking with Dogwood. That has a good flavor for beef as well, mixed with Live or Red Oak & Pecan. Us PO Folks Gotta Use What wwe Got!

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                              calldoctoday Dogwood is a great looking tree, what can you compare it to? It looks like cherry tree, wonder if it has the same milder smoke?

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                              • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                calldoctoday Dogwood is a great looking tree, what can you compare it to? It looks like cherry tree, wonder if it has the same milder smoke?

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                                Jonathon I’ve used dogwood and plum. They are both very similar to cherry IMO.

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                                • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                  calldoctoday Dogwood is a great looking tree, what can you compare it to? It looks like cherry tree, wonder if it has the same milder smoke?

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                                  Jonathon The smoke is more like a light oak. It is good for beef & I believe I have used it on lamb successfully as well, but definitely beef. Yes, they are beautiful trees & I would probably never cut one down purposely for smoking, as much as love cooking. One place we lived I was able to propagate them very well & we had hundreds of them. It was amazing at the right time of the year. I am pretty sure we were getting a lot of regular drive by traffic. Here, we had the largest (trunk diameter) one that I had ever seen in my life before. However, after many years it started to decline. I was able to keep it alive about another 9-10 years before it finally bit the dust & there was nothing I could do. So, I researched using it for smoking or something so as not to got to waste. Then after finding it was safe (unlike Cherry Laurel, in my opinion, that smells like cherry coke) I started using it & what I have revealed is what I found. I don’t think it would ever go commercial for smoking though. As you said, the trees are too beautiful.

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                                    calldoctoday That’s awesome that you were able to use it. I love trees, sadly in Kansas, we don’t have them in great numbers and those that we do have tend to be a little less impressive!

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                                    • blackbetty61B blackbetty61

                                      Anyone got a good prime rib recipe? Never done one before so any tips would be great(smoking, injecting, brining, seasoning etc) thanks

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                                      blackbetty61 glen You’re request has many answers. But, in the end, here’s an article that attacks everyone’s feelings of the past (many different methods) and scientifically proves the best method. Yes, it’s at least a 10 minute read. But worth it. You’ll be nicely surprised at the result. The only item not addressed is “seasoning”. But, if you get the method down, the seasoning will be an easier task. https://blog.thermoworks.com/beef/science-of-perfect-prime-rib-roast/?utm_source=AR&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=ar-chefalarm-2

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                                      • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                                        Tex_77 Alton is down with the science of things for sure. If I’m ever in doubt I consult his method

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                                        Joe Hell Yep, the Alton method is a good one. But, look for the link in my response to blackbetty61 glen on the science behind a great prime rib roast and WHY. I believe it points out “the best methods” and why. Now, please have a good rest of the day.

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                                        • zbigjeffZ zbigjeff

                                          Joe Hell Yep, the Alton method is a good one. But, look for the link in my response to blackbetty61 glen on the science behind a great prime rib roast and WHY. I believe it points out “the best methods” and why. Now, please have a good rest of the day.

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                                          zbigjeff Science, well some of it is, but way too many variables to be a real scientific method that were not accounted for. Been way too many years for me since I took Physical Chemistry and Heat Transfer. Days of schooling are over. I just want to enjoy cooking and sharing a great meal with family and friends.

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