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Water/humidity while smoking meat/snack sticks

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  • ChefC Offline
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    Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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    Jonathon Did you ever find that info for time temperature and humidity schedule for snack sticks?

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    • JonathonJ Offline
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      Jonathon
      Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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      Chef
      Time Temp Wet Bulb
      30 120 0
      30 145 100
      30 175 155
      999 185 155 until internal temp is 160°

      Hope it helps, thought I posted this somewhere else and tagged you but honestly…who knows right now, I DREAMT of this place last night…I never do that!

      Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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      • JonathonJ Jonathon

        Chef
        Time Temp Wet Bulb
        30 120 0
        30 145 100
        30 175 155
        999 185 155 until internal temp is 160°

        Hope it helps, thought I posted this somewhere else and tagged you but honestly…who knows right now, I DREAMT of this place last night…I never do that!

        ChefC Offline
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        Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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        Jonathon Thank you.

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        • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

          dayjm1
          I think this is up for debate. I’m in Colorado and do a fair amount of snack sticks. We have very little humidity here. I have done this both without water bowl and with added water. I think the drying cycle (125) degrees really tightens up the casings nice, then take it up to 140 for an hour, then 155 for two hours, then 175 til you reach safe internal temp. Honestly I am not sure that I noticed much of a difference when I added the water at the 140 stage. I think it has to do a lot wi5 your location and preferences. Maybe get a 25 pound batch and just do half of it one way and half the other and you make the choice. Let us know.l

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          #6

          lkrfletcher so I wound up preparing a 10lb batch (30% chuck, 70% pork butt) and used the Waltons temp profile for the most part. 125 for one hour with no water in the smoker, then stepped up thru 140, 155, 175 with water and apple wood smoke. It was late and cold and raining, so I stepped up to 185 and then 190 near the end to hit my internal temperature of 160.

          Used the Willies snack stick seasoning blend and made 19mm snack sticks plus a couple summer sausages. The summer sausages looked great right out of the smoker, but the fibrous casings wrinkled once they hit the cold water bath. All in all the batch looks and tastes great, and my wife and kids concur.

          It took quite a bit longer than I was expecting, and stuffing 19mm casings with my grinder was a pain in the…neck.

          Thanks for your help!
          EFB4CF1D-6C92-4979-9EAF-0E5C1DFEFE91.jpeg F8F395BD-8D4A-4C39-91E4-3461448B5BA9.jpeg

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          • D dayjm1

            lkrfletcher so I wound up preparing a 10lb batch (30% chuck, 70% pork butt) and used the Waltons temp profile for the most part. 125 for one hour with no water in the smoker, then stepped up thru 140, 155, 175 with water and apple wood smoke. It was late and cold and raining, so I stepped up to 185 and then 190 near the end to hit my internal temperature of 160.

            Used the Willies snack stick seasoning blend and made 19mm snack sticks plus a couple summer sausages. The summer sausages looked great right out of the smoker, but the fibrous casings wrinkled once they hit the cold water bath. All in all the batch looks and tastes great, and my wife and kids concur.

            It took quite a bit longer than I was expecting, and stuffing 19mm casings with my grinder was a pain in the…neck.

            Thanks for your help!
            EFB4CF1D-6C92-4979-9EAF-0E5C1DFEFE91.jpeg F8F395BD-8D4A-4C39-91E4-3461448B5BA9.jpeg

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            lkrfletcher
            Sous Vide Canning PK100 Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Veteran
            wrote on last edited by lkrfletcher
            #7

            dayjm1
            You got it down. Looks great to me. I no longer use 19mm casings. They just don’t go on my Walton stuffer that great, so I switched to 21mm. I wish they had a tube size that you can slide the entire compressed casing right into the tube. I’ve never been able to get that to work yet. I have to decompress the casings, and start them over the tube, then decompress them onto the tube.

            Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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            • D dayjm1

              lkrfletcher so I wound up preparing a 10lb batch (30% chuck, 70% pork butt) and used the Waltons temp profile for the most part. 125 for one hour with no water in the smoker, then stepped up thru 140, 155, 175 with water and apple wood smoke. It was late and cold and raining, so I stepped up to 185 and then 190 near the end to hit my internal temperature of 160.

              Used the Willies snack stick seasoning blend and made 19mm snack sticks plus a couple summer sausages. The summer sausages looked great right out of the smoker, but the fibrous casings wrinkled once they hit the cold water bath. All in all the batch looks and tastes great, and my wife and kids concur.

              It took quite a bit longer than I was expecting, and stuffing 19mm casings with my grinder was a pain in the…neck.

              Thanks for your help!
              EFB4CF1D-6C92-4979-9EAF-0E5C1DFEFE91.jpeg F8F395BD-8D4A-4C39-91E4-3461448B5BA9.jpeg

              ChefC Offline
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              Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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              dayjm1 Looks great. What size grind plates did you use?

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              • ChefC Chef

                dayjm1 Looks great. What size grind plates did you use?

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                Chef larger grind plate with my grinder is just over 1/4”—closer to 5/16. Small plate is 3/16. The grind on the meat looked really good. The auger on the grinder just couldn’t feed the sticky meat down into the stuffing horn. A sausage stuffer is the next item on my “want/need” list.

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                • lkrfletcherL lkrfletcher

                  dayjm1
                  You got it down. Looks great to me. I no longer use 19mm casings. They just don’t go on my Walton stuffer that great, so I switched to 21mm. I wish they had a tube size that you can slide the entire compressed casing right into the tube. I’ve never been able to get that to work yet. I have to decompress the casings, and start them over the tube, then decompress them onto the tube.

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                  lkrfletcher yep that’s exactly what I had to do, slide maybe 24-25 inches of collagen casing on the smallest stuffing tube I had.

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                  • D dayjm1

                    Chef larger grind plate with my grinder is just over 1/4”—closer to 5/16. Small plate is 3/16. The grind on the meat looked really good. The auger on the grinder just couldn’t feed the sticky meat down into the stuffing horn. A sausage stuffer is the next item on my “want/need” list.

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                    Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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                    dayjm1 Thanks, your grind looks particularly good.

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                      Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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                      dayjm1 Those look great man, nicely done! Sometimes for whatever reason it just takes longer than others!

                      lkrfletcher Do the 19mm casings just not slide easily onto the tube? I had that happen once and I tossed the tube, let me know if that is your issue and I’ll send you a new one that I know works with 19mm casings

                      Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                      • JonathonJ Jonathon

                        dayjm1 Those look great man, nicely done! Sometimes for whatever reason it just takes longer than others!

                        lkrfletcher Do the 19mm casings just not slide easily onto the tube? I had that happen once and I tossed the tube, let me know if that is your issue and I’ll send you a new one that I know works with 19mm casings

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                        lkrfletcher
                        Sous Vide Canning PK100 Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Veteran
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                        Jonathon
                        Yeah the waltons tube ( the ones that came with the stuffer) I have I cannot get the 19mm casings on. Battled it a long time and finally gave up and went to 21mm casings.

                        Life is a Garden - Dig it.

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                        • JonathonJ Jonathon

                          dayjm1 Those look great man, nicely done! Sometimes for whatever reason it just takes longer than others!

                          lkrfletcher Do the 19mm casings just not slide easily onto the tube? I had that happen once and I tossed the tube, let me know if that is your issue and I’ll send you a new one that I know works with 19mm casings

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                          Jonathon I bought your 7lb stuffer that I love dearly but have the same problem 19mm casings won’t slip on the tube without unraveling them first.

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