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    Parksider
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    Meateater1 I do what Jonathon says, we base everything off the pounds of meat/fat block on the package of the spice, then add all the other stuff.
    If you want more intense flavors then make the total of spice/water/cheese + meat= recommended weight on spice pack (generally 25#). I’ve done it both ways, only one I do less meat weight (20#) is breakfast sausage, I like more kick in it.

    John C.

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      Meateater1 If I understand your question correctly you are asking if you include the seasonings, additves and waters weight to your meat block or if you just count the meat? The answer is…different people do it differently (surprise surprise!) We do the 25 lb based on the meat alone, so if we are using something like Habanero BBQ that weight 3 lbs then the weight of everything before it goes into the smoker will be closer to 30 as the seasoning weight about 3 (guessing here) and we will most likely use 2-3 lb of water.

      Sorry if that wasn’t the question!

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      Parksider, Jonathon Just so I understand, so 25 lbs of beef gets how much pork fat. I have ordered and received all the other ingredients to prepare a 25 lb run I think? Thanks for your time. Sorry Type A here!! There certainly is a plethora of information here, I think that is what is confusing me, (not a bad thing) but since I have never done this all the information seems to be running together.

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        Jonathon
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        If you want 20% fat (in that range is what you are looking for) then it would be 5 lb of fat for 25 lb of meat. Now, most meat you start with is going to be in the 20% range anyway unless you are suing deer or another low fat ungulate. What is your initial meat block?

        Fat is included in what is added up to 25, so if you did 25 plus 2 lb of pork fat that is now 27 lb and you would have to use more than a full bag of seasoning.

        No apologies necessary, getting things right is always worth and extra question or two!

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        • JonathonJ Jonathon

          If you want 20% fat (in that range is what you are looking for) then it would be 5 lb of fat for 25 lb of meat. Now, most meat you start with is going to be in the 20% range anyway unless you are suing deer or another low fat ungulate. What is your initial meat block?

          Fat is included in what is added up to 25, so if you did 25 plus 2 lb of pork fat that is now 27 lb and you would have to use more than a full bag of seasoning.

          No apologies necessary, getting things right is always worth and extra question or two!

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          Meateater1
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          Jonathon Top Round Beef is what I’m using for meat block.

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            Meateater1 If I understand your question correctly you are asking if you include the seasonings, additves and waters weight to your meat block or if you just count the meat? The answer is…different people do it differently (surprise surprise!) We do the 25 lb based on the meat alone, so if we are using something like Habanero BBQ that weight 3 lbs then the weight of everything before it goes into the smoker will be closer to 30 as the seasoning weight about 3 (guessing here) and we will most likely use 2-3 lb of water.

            Sorry if that wasn’t the question!

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            Joe Hell
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            Jonathon That’s how I do it!

            Better Living Through BBQ!

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              Jonathon
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              Meateater1 Top round is probably somewhere in the 5% fat range so yeah, you want to add at least 15% (if you don’t trim and 20% if you do) of pork fat. So for a 25 lb block that would be 20 lb of top round and 5 b of pork fat. Enjoy!

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              • JonathonJ Jonathon

                Meateater1 Top round is probably somewhere in the 5% fat range so yeah, you want to add at least 15% (if you don’t trim and 20% if you do) of pork fat. So for a 25 lb block that would be 20 lb of top round and 5 b of pork fat. Enjoy!

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                craigrice
                Power User Canning Team Orange Regular Contributors Veteran Masterbuilt
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                Jonathon I must confess that I started the taco snack stick and have not made any yet

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                  Jonathon
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                  craigrice Lol well no worries, I’m glad we got it, it is in my top 5 snack sticks for sure!

                  Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                    craigrice Lol well no worries, I’m glad we got it, it is in my top 5 snack sticks for sure!

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                    craigrice
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                    Jonathon as a early post the climate is against me right now

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                      chippewa Avery says they are. Never had a issues from freezer to fridge and out. Get them on amazon they are Avery #22826. They are wine bottle labels and they have a lot of templates. I added a screenshot on excel so I could get all the options on one label then we just mark them off. It works…

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                      Parksider Looks awesome!

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