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  • BobbyMacB BobbyMac

    MT Elk Hunter I didn’t even go to my local food store because I had a feeling they get their meats pre trimmed.

    I ended up going to 3 local small business butchers one was actually 40 minutes away. It seems butchers hoard pork fat here in NJ

    Just another thing we can’t get in NJ I guess.

    Ended up buying a large pork butt, but @ $3.99 per pound that gets expensive

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    BobbyMac said in No pork fat:

    It seems butchers hoard pork fat here in NJ
    Just another thing we can’t get in NJ I guess.

    LOL, it’s not that they are hoarding it, but rather they mix it into products they offer for sale within their meat cases. I have to depend upon Boston butts for my element of pork fat for most of my sausage making endeavors. I also use beef suet fat for certain mixes, and as fat into my deer burger mixes. In my burger mixes I also like lamb that contains a good amount of fat content.

    Texas

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    • s.a.mS s.a.m

      BobbyMac said in No pork fat:

      MT Elk Hunter I didn’t even go to my local food store because I had a feeling they get their meats pre trimmed.

      I ended up going to 3 local small business butchers one was actually 40 minutes away. It seems butchers hoard pork fat here in NJ

      Just another thing we can’t get in NJ I guess.

      Ended up buying a large pork butt, but @ $3.99 per pound that gets expensive

      Wow $3.99 for pork butt!! And I thought $1.54 was high! Guess I’d better count my blessings!

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      akdave
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      @s-a-m
      $3.99 for pork butt is outrageous we only pay under $2.00 a pound for it in Alaska

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      • A akdave

        @s-a-m
        $3.99 for pork butt is outrageous we only pay under $2.00 a pound for it in Alaska

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        BobbyMac
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        akdave Oh I know, it’s absolute robbery. That’s the price from ALL local butchers however it’s about $2.69 per pound from our food store. We try to support local business and small businesses as much as possible but sometimes we get tired of the higher prices too lol

        Cheapest I’ve seen it this week

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        • BobbyMacB BobbyMac

          akdave Oh I know, it’s absolute robbery. That’s the price from ALL local butchers however it’s about $2.69 per pound from our food store. We try to support local business and small businesses as much as possible but sometimes we get tired of the higher prices too lol

          Cheapest I’ve seen it this week

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          BobbyMac don’t know if you have Gordon food service/GFS over that way was just in my local store and butt was $1.69, bought whole 8-9lb. Pork loin from Kroger supermarket wasn’t looking for it but sale price was $1.49 today!!

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            From what I’ve learned over the years, pork fat will take on the flavor of whatever you add it to. Beef fat will add a beef flavor to it. We’ve had to scramble for fat a time or two and depending on what we were making, it never has made enough difference to worry too much. Boston Butts are my go to in a pinch.

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            • A akdave

              @s-a-m
              $3.99 for pork butt is outrageous we only pay under $2.00 a pound for it in Alaska

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              Joe Hell
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              akdave I better not tell you guys what we charge at the shop for pork

              Better Living Through BBQ!

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                Jonathon
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                BobbyMac I’m a fan of pork fat obviously but if it is that hard to find then I wouldn’t worry too much about it with venison or even elk or moose. 50/50’ing that is fine, not as good in my opinion but most people would say you don’t notice the difference that much and the upside is that you do end up witha lot more product. Pheasant, goose, and other bird (anyone ever make duck snack sticks?!) is where I think it becomes more important.

                I’ve said ti a few times but your local Asian supermarket is usually a great resource for stuff like this!

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                • JonathonJ Jonathon

                  BobbyMac I’m a fan of pork fat obviously but if it is that hard to find then I wouldn’t worry too much about it with venison or even elk or moose. 50/50’ing that is fine, not as good in my opinion but most people would say you don’t notice the difference that much and the upside is that you do end up witha lot more product. Pheasant, goose, and other bird (anyone ever make duck snack sticks?!) is where I think it becomes more important.

                  I’ve said ti a few times but your local Asian supermarket is usually a great resource for stuff like this!

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                  BobbyMac
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                  Jonathon said in No pork fat:

                  BobbyMac I’m a fan of pork fat obviously but if it is that hard to find then I wouldn’t worry too much about it with venison or even elk or moose. 50/50’ing that is fine, not as good in my opinion but most people would say you don’t notice the difference that much and the upside is that you do end up witha lot more product. Pheasant, goose, and other bird (anyone ever make duck snack sticks?!) is where I think it becomes more important.

                  I’ve said ti a few times but your local Asian supermarket is usually a great resource for stuff like this!

                  Thanks Jonathon for the advice, unfortunately that’s what I’m using it for is Pheasant. I’m going to call a few more places and ask if they can order it for me

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                    Jonathon
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                    BobbyMac Seriously, try a local asian market, my butcher was out and I called them and they had some. Those places are generally gold mines.

                    Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                      Deepwoodsbutcher
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                      This is why there needs to be more information about the differences between butchers and meat cutters. Meat cutters (which I was for almost 7 years) open boxes and cut mostly pre-trimmed, subprimals into roasts and steaks. They mostly work with pre-ground products for burger and only the little bit of trim they produce from steaks and roasts is truly ground fresh in store. (I’m only commenting on things in the USA by the way, other countries can be very different.) These hardworking guys and gals make up the vast majority of what people mean when they say “butchers”. While the amount of knowledge they may have varies on the individual, they just don’t work with the same products or produce the same materials. Butchers (which I am now) on the other hand, work with primals, whole carcasses and even the living animals. Because they work at the beginning of the process, they often have access to all of the animal (in cases of plants where slaughtering is also done) or at least more bones, fat, offal and specialty cuts (like hanger steak ect.) then a meat cutter would. Often shops focused on retail direct to customers, do not have butchers, but meat cutters. If you are looking for fat (or anything else your local meat cutter can’t get for you) look for a USDA inspected butcher. Call and see if they can put some aside for you or even ask them which of their customers sell it. Especially, with smaller plants who do a lot of butchering for people that buy whole, 1/2, or 1/4 animals, there is usually a surplus of “by-products” like fat.

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                      • DeepwoodsbutcherD Deepwoodsbutcher

                        This is why there needs to be more information about the differences between butchers and meat cutters. Meat cutters (which I was for almost 7 years) open boxes and cut mostly pre-trimmed, subprimals into roasts and steaks. They mostly work with pre-ground products for burger and only the little bit of trim they produce from steaks and roasts is truly ground fresh in store. (I’m only commenting on things in the USA by the way, other countries can be very different.) These hardworking guys and gals make up the vast majority of what people mean when they say “butchers”. While the amount of knowledge they may have varies on the individual, they just don’t work with the same products or produce the same materials. Butchers (which I am now) on the other hand, work with primals, whole carcasses and even the living animals. Because they work at the beginning of the process, they often have access to all of the animal (in cases of plants where slaughtering is also done) or at least more bones, fat, offal and specialty cuts (like hanger steak ect.) then a meat cutter would. Often shops focused on retail direct to customers, do not have butchers, but meat cutters. If you are looking for fat (or anything else your local meat cutter can’t get for you) look for a USDA inspected butcher. Call and see if they can put some aside for you or even ask them which of their customers sell it. Especially, with smaller plants who do a lot of butchering for people that buy whole, 1/2, or 1/4 animals, there is usually a surplus of “by-products” like fat.

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                        Joe Hell
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                        #34

                        Deepwoodsbutcher That is excellent advice and information! We have more fat and hard to find stuff than we know what to do with at times. We make a lot of ‘food for pets’ with offal and trim and have also started saving some for bears! Next spring we will be donating to the WSU bear rehabilitation center.

                        Better Living Through BBQ!

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                        • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                          Deepwoodsbutcher That is excellent advice and information! We have more fat and hard to find stuff than we know what to do with at times. We make a lot of ‘food for pets’ with offal and trim and have also started saving some for bears! Next spring we will be donating to the WSU bear rehabilitation center.

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                          Deepwoodsbutcher
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                          Joe Hell that’s great! And thank you.

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                          • DeepwoodsbutcherD Deepwoodsbutcher

                            This is why there needs to be more information about the differences between butchers and meat cutters. Meat cutters (which I was for almost 7 years) open boxes and cut mostly pre-trimmed, subprimals into roasts and steaks. They mostly work with pre-ground products for burger and only the little bit of trim they produce from steaks and roasts is truly ground fresh in store. (I’m only commenting on things in the USA by the way, other countries can be very different.) These hardworking guys and gals make up the vast majority of what people mean when they say “butchers”. While the amount of knowledge they may have varies on the individual, they just don’t work with the same products or produce the same materials. Butchers (which I am now) on the other hand, work with primals, whole carcasses and even the living animals. Because they work at the beginning of the process, they often have access to all of the animal (in cases of plants where slaughtering is also done) or at least more bones, fat, offal and specialty cuts (like hanger steak ect.) then a meat cutter would. Often shops focused on retail direct to customers, do not have butchers, but meat cutters. If you are looking for fat (or anything else your local meat cutter can’t get for you) look for a USDA inspected butcher. Call and see if they can put some aside for you or even ask them which of their customers sell it. Especially, with smaller plants who do a lot of butchering for people that buy whole, 1/2, or 1/4 animals, there is usually a surplus of “by-products” like fat.

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                            lamurscrappy
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                            Deepwoodsbutcher i like reading that. Someone that actually understands 🙂

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                              Deepwoodsbutcher Good information and thanks for sharing!

                              Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                              • lamurscrappyL lamurscrappy

                                Deepwoodsbutcher i like reading that. Someone that actually understands 🙂

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                                lamurscrappy thank you

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                                • s.a.mS s.a.m

                                  BobbyMac said in No pork fat:

                                  MT Elk Hunter I didn’t even go to my local food store because I had a feeling they get their meats pre trimmed.

                                  I ended up going to 3 local small business butchers one was actually 40 minutes away. It seems butchers hoard pork fat here in NJ

                                  Just another thing we can’t get in NJ I guess.

                                  Ended up buying a large pork butt, but @ $3.99 per pound that gets expensive

                                  Wow $3.99 for pork butt!! And I thought $1.54 was high! Guess I’d better count my blessings!

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                                  cfkarch
                                  Team Orange
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                                  I am able to find specials and get pork butt for 99 cents. Also found a butcher down the road who can provide pork fat for 50 cents a pound as they butcher every couple days.

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                                  • BobbyMacB BobbyMac

                                    Hey guys so I’m having a really hard time trying to find pork fat local to me. Every butcher I’ve gone to says they don’t have any for me to buy. I’ve gotten excuse after excuse as to why and they all say “just use beef fat”

                                    Now will this really make that big of a difference? I’m making some breakfast sausage today and have enough pork fat on the picnic but when I’m making other items I’m not sure if this will taste different.

                                    Any input? I really wish I had lamb fat available to mix with my pheasant but that’s even further out of the question lol

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                                    srg158
                                    Green Mountain Grill
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                                    BobbyMac Hog is about $0.60-$0.75 per pound hanging weight this time of year, plus killing fee. You get all the trimmings and fat you need. A small half might be 115 lb and once broken down will be a lot less. That’s an option. If we are making several products we just by a half skinned.

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                                      BobbyMac Hog is about $0.60-$0.75 per pound hanging weight this time of year, plus killing fee. You get all the trimmings and fat you need. A small half might be 115 lb and once broken down will be a lot less. That’s an option. If we are making several products we just by a half skinned.

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                                      BobbyMac
                                      Team Orange
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                                      srg158 Interesting, id be better off buying a whole hog and doing the butchering myself lol.

                                      So far I have still searched all around for a butcher or local Asian market to sell it to me and had no luck.

                                      However I do have a restaurant depot that someone mentioned and I just need to purchase a membership. I could also find where the butcher get their meat from and cut the middle man out lol

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                                        Hey guys just wanted to post a little update today, went to my local BJ’s wholesale club and they actually sell pork butts for $1.39 per pound. Nice and fatty too haha. I was trying to avoid going to the larger box retailers as I do like to support local business however for $3.99 per pound on pork butt just to use it for fat doesn’t make sense.

                                        Thank you all for your input and I will let everyone know when I start another project. Thank you again!

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                                          BobbyMac Sometimes you can and sometimes you can’t support local businesses! In our opinion, it’s usually best to try but when there is a price disparity like that, you can’t ignore it!

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