Sure Gel and carrot fiber are used to help with water retention and getting the consistency in the end product. You will still need water if you don’t use them to help with mixing and stuffing. When using water without Sure Gel or Carrot Fiber I just add until it feels right and everything looks like all of your seasoning is mixed. . If you add too much it will increase the cooking time. I recently used carrot fiber on sticks and summer sausage (with ECA) and it is amazing. No taste and just the right amount to stuff nicely and, good taste and mouth feel.

Good luck!!! I did some Chicken a buffalo Brats! Keep your meat and grinder super cold at all times. I found the chicken to really gum up easily if I did not. I used Carrot Fiber and it worked well. Very good end result! I am wanting to do some chicken or turkey snack sticks.

Austin I almost did an Instagram shaming to try and get one. Two orders in a row…no catalog, I think the let down occurs because it automatically adds one to the order and then nothing comes in the box. In some ways this is like ordering something and not getting it. Imagine the orders I could create while sitting on the throne, planning out my next… smoke? Yeah that sounds PC.

I have done chicken brats before, I am interested in this as well. My wife likes pre-made turkey sticks.