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    Deli Meats

    Deli Meat: 202 Additives For Homemade Deli Meats

    Attend this Intermediate-level class from Meatgistics University by watching the video, reading the article and post any questions you have!

    Cold Phosphate
    Binders
    Sodium Lactate

    Phosphates

    In Deli Meats 103 we went over some common additives that are used in commercially processed Deli Meats, most of them are harmless and are aimed at increasing the freshness of the meat, the shelf life, taste and appearance. However, most of these items are not things you are going to have in your home, or have easy access to. However, there are a few additives that are easily available and will give you a nice reformed deli meat that can be sliced almost as thin as a true deli.

    It doesn’t matter if you are making homemade deli meats or buying it from the store, some sort of phosphates will almost certainly be present. The phosphates raise the pH of the meat and allow it to hold more water. Commercial processors do this because a) water is much cheaper than meat and b) consumers want cuts of meat that are juicier. We recommend you use Cold Phosphate as this will dissolve easier in cold water than some other types. An important note on phosphates is that if you are injecting it you need to mix this in first so it can suspend in the water. I’d recommend you add phosphates to any deli meat you are making but it is especially important when making low fat deli cuts.

    Binders

    Binders, especially in low fat cuts, are going to be very key here when making a reformed cut of deli meat. Without it you will have a hard time getting everything to stick together tight enough to let you slice it deli thin without it crumbling. Carrot Fiber isn’t a traditional binder but it holds 26 times it’s weight in water so it can help with a juiciness, if you are going to use carrot fiber, like I do in future videos, is to use it in conjunction with cold phosphate. Super Bind is going to give you carrot fiber and potato starch, so you get the best of the carrot fiber plus the potato starch forms a gel at the same temp as the meat really starts to expel water. The only problem with this is that in a homemade deli you are going to have some voids in your meat. Having no voids with a hand crank stuffer is extremely difficult and those voids will be filled with this gel. It can be very unappealing. Sure Gel or Soy protein blend can also be good choices.

    Sodium Lactate

    Sodium Lactate is used by commercial processors to extend the shelf-life of meat products. It is sometimes used as a powder but is most often used in its liquid form. It increases the shelf life of meat products by regulating the pH of food and reduces the effects of bacteria spoilage. In its liquid form you would use it at a rate of 1.5% of your meat block, so for a 25 lb batch you would use .375 of a lb. As we sell it in gallons you can see that it would last you a long time.

    Sodium Nitrite & Sure Cure

    Another option for deli meat can be using sodium nitrite or sure cure. We’ve talked about it exhaustively in the past but using nitrite helps fight botulism spores. Its important to use when smoking meat as you are often creating the perfect environment for the growth of botulism and other bad microorganisms. It can also assist in increasing the shelf life of the meat and preserving the color and flavor.

    Watch WaltonsTV: Deli Meat: 202 Additives For Homemade Deli Meats

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    Meatgistics Podcast: Same Day Shipping

    Each week, Jon and Austin break out and critique a new beer and different sausage while they discuss everything about meat. Follow along as they talk about their favorite recipes and share some of the best expert tips and tricks for making sausage and jerky. Stay up to date on the latest news and current trends in the meat industry as Jon and Austin explore everything related to meat and more.

    Beautiful Beverages

    Austin a Well Being Intentional IPA. It was NOT his favorite IPA as you can probably tell
    Jonathon enjoyed Chilly Water Pale Ale from Tighthead Brewing, a good all day drinking beer that has quickly become one of his new favorites. He also had a milkshake IPA, and, of course, he was disappointed
    Taylor had a Sea Dog Blue Paw, its an Ale with added Blueberry flavor. In his own words, “It’s pretty good.”

    What we talked about

    We discussed everything from how the orders at Waltons are shipped to our love of dogs! If you’ve ever been curious about how the warehouse works here at Waltons and what exactly we do to ensure the best customer experience possible give this podcast a listen!

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    Meatgisitcs Podcast: Clearing The Mailbag

    Each week, Jon and Austin break out and critique a new beer and different sausage while they discuss everything about meat. Follow along as they talk about their favorite recipes and share some of the best expert tips and tricks for making sausage and jerky. Stay up to date on the latest news and current trends in the meat industry as Jon and Austin explore everything related to meat and more.

    Beautiful Beverages

    Jonathon toughed it through one of his not so favorite beers, a Hibiscus Lemon Saison. But as the saying goes, “The show must go on!”

    What we talked about

    Jon was tackling the podcast solo today, so what a great reason to clear out the mailbag! He went though all of the emails we have received from you the loyal listeners and answered as many questions as he could. Enjoy!

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    Meatgisitcs Podcast: How's the Weather?

    Each week, Jon and Austin break out and critique a new beer and different sausage while they discuss everything about meat. Follow along as they talk about their favorite recipes and share some of the best expert tips and tricks for making sausage and jerky. Stay up to date on the latest news and current trends in the meat industry as Jon and Austin explore everything related to meat and more.

    Beautiful Beverages

    Jonathon tried a tart lychee from new belgium. It is an aged sour ale, so you know he enjoyed himself. Richard tried out a hazy river, a new england style pale ale. He’s a fan of IPA’s, so he really liked this beer to accompany the not so great weather we’ve been having.

    What we talked about

    Jon was joined by Richard Schraeger from Accuweather and they, of course, discussed the weather, kind of. It was interesting to hear about all the things not normally associated with the weather that are heavily affected by it. Check it out!

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