@mark60 Sure gel absolutely works well with snack sticks and I like it even more when using wild game or other lean meat. Carrot Fiber is also something that can help and is a little less expensive than the sure gel. I always tell people when they are doing wild game they probably want to use sure gel, you spent a ton of time money and effort into getting the meat, spend a few more $ on a binder to make the best product that you can. But, if making pork or beef sticks using carrot fiber should give you similar results, not as good but certainly good enough!