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  • Chewy loose stick casings
    D Drake

    PapaSop

    I have followed that link, but not exactly when it comes to the thermal process , but very close on slowly raising the temps to reach the internal target temp. That’s why I say I’m not sure why the casings are loose and chewy. Other then the casings, the sticks are delicious.

    Two of my boy live in alaska and are coming home the middle of April for a fishing trip. And I want to make the a batch of sticks. Even though I have followed it previously with the exception of the thermal process. ( I have been close) “ i just want them to turn out.”
    I will follow the directions from the link exactly.

    Thank you for your advice I appreciate it !

    URGENT 911

  • Chewy loose stick casings
    D Drake

    PapaSop

    Good evening,

    The last batch of sticks I used 21 mm smoked casings from waltons.
    I thought about that as well because, I have had that happen before when I have used “LEM Casings”

    The waltons casings felt thinner and fresher then the LEM brand casings. I thought that was the problem , but I was wrong. They turned out loose and chewy, so I peeled every stick before I packed them.

    This has got me baffled.
    Like I say the sticks turn out perfect except for the loose casing.

    I certainly appreciate any and all advice.
    Thank you sir.

    URGENT 911

  • Chewy loose stick casings
    D Drake

    Dave in AZ

    Good morning,

    Recently, I have been using pork butts 7.5 lbs
    And roughly 17.5.lbs of venison. For a 25 lb batch.
    When I grind my venison it is very lean.
    I have been grinding my pork for my sticks lean. ( meaning I use more straight meat from the pork rather then the fat caps. ) “ could that be the issue”

    My process
    In the mixing and stuffing process I am doing everything just as the videos show.

    My smoker
    I built it myself, it is a double upright stainless freezer.
    I dismantled it, put it back together with rock wool insulation. My heat source is a burner from a turkey cooker.
    That I regulate the temperature with the regulator at the tank. I have a thermometer in the door of the cabinet. I also use a digital thermometer with probes that I place in the product.
    I start out hanging my sticks in smoker vents open with temp thermometer in door reading 120 to 140 for about an hour and I physically feel and look for dryness.
    I then slowly increase temp and add smoke over next few hours up to 180 degrees for a target temp of 160 internal temp.
    I then place naked in a tote filled with cold water for maybe 20 minutes, I then take them out if the water bath and physically dry them with a towel and let sit for about an hour on the table. At that point I either cut them to length or place in the refrigerator as is until the next day.
    Then I vacuum seal.

    What I have noticed.
    When I bring them in from water bath and are drying them you can physically see some of the casings are loose, so prior to vacuum sealing we pull the casings off.

    “ could the water be the problem “

    I have been smoking meat for a lot of years for my family and friends.
    Venison, waterfowl, upland game, fish,
    And I make up Summer Sausage, Polish, sticks, and Jerky from venison and I have no problem except for the casings on the sticks . all though sometimes the casings on the polish are loose or chewy as well , but not always

    I appreciate all the advice
    Thank you!

    URGENT 911

  • Chewy loose stick casings
    D Drake

    Jonathon

    I would like to clarify one thing, I want everyone to know that I was looking for advice. I was not talking anything negative towards the casings of either brand, although I like the feel of the waltons Brand better, but that is just my personal opinion. I have used both and have had success with both.
    I’m sure it is operator error on my part.
    And I would like to that everyone for there advice.
    Hopefully I can figure it out.

    Thank you!

    URGENT 911

  • Chewy loose stick casings
    D Drake

    PapaSop

    Yes , thank you

    My seasoning will arrive tomorrow
    I will be making venison summer and I wanted to make a batch of sticks for my sons, so that is why I’m trying to figure out what is happening.

    URGENT 911

  • Chewy loose stick casings
    D Drake

    PapaSop

    Yes sir, as we speak I have pork butts and venison thawing to get ready for the grinder. Seasoning should be delivered this afternoon. So we will see what happens in the next couple of days.
    I will do a little adjusting and hope for the best.

    I will let you know what happens this time.

    Thank you for all the suggestions.

    URGENT 911

  • Chewy loose stick casings
    D Drake

    twilliams

    I appreciate it, I certainly will.

    Thank you.

    URGENT 911
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