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Dan Ferdinande

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  • Pre mixed seasonings with sodium erythorbate
    D Dan Ferdinande

    MIMIP maybe try a sweet Italian. Or better yet ask the Waltons-Meatistics team if they offer any low sodium options.

    Meat Processing sodium erythorbate eca

  • Pre mixed seasonings with sodium erythorbate
    D Dan Ferdinande

    Rachel Dolliver I do not

    Meat Processing sodium erythorbate eca

  • Pre mixed seasonings with sodium erythorbate
    D Dan Ferdinande

    IVERYAN

    Most of the premixed “kit” seasonings do not specify to hold or not hold.
    They give the mixing instructions and then the recommended Temps for processing. I may have to try with a small batch (my buddies won’t mind) and see if it works out.

    Meat Processing sodium erythorbate eca

  • Pre mixed seasonings with sodium erythorbate
    D Dan Ferdinande

    processhead
    Thanks for your reply.

    Meat Processing sodium erythorbate eca

  • Pre mixed seasonings with sodium erythorbate
    D Dan Ferdinande

    When using premixed seasonings like “leggs old plantation” that have sodium erythorbate in the ingredients list, can I still add ECA for some tang?

    Meat Processing sodium erythorbate eca

  • Citric Acid and Sodium Erythorbate in seasoning
    D Dan Ferdinande

    Jonathon
    So what i get from this post is…
    A premixed seasoning that has sodium erythorbate in the ingredients list is ok to hold overnight? Also i can add a cure accelerator (in the proper amount) like eca or sodium erythorbate and smoke the smoke the same day?
    I want to try adding eca but most kits already have an accelerator like sodium erythorbate listed and direct you to smoke the same day. I don’t want to over accelerate.

    Thanks

    Meat Processing

  • LEM stuffer casing question
    D Dan Ferdinande

    Brianzipperdog123
    Thanks, I’ll start looking for materials to get that done.

    Meat Processing

  • LEM stuffer casing question
    D Dan Ferdinande

    Brianzipperdog123
    I am interested in what you used to make your own stuffing tube.
    I have cut and melted a 3/8 tube to fit my omcan stuffer, but its not long enough to fit even 1/2 sleeve of collagen casings.

    Meat Processing

  • Any WSM owners able to hold 125 degrees?
    D Dan Ferdinande

    TexLaw
    keend0
    Sorry for the delayed response…
    I have a weber sausage/fish hanger in my wsm 22 and 18.
    I use the snake method with Kingsford and no wood (the briquettes provide adequate smoke flavor/color) the snake gets wider and I shuffle the coals as needed.
    I shoot for 110-130 for 1 hour to dry
    140-160 1 hour and 180-200 to finish.
    I cut my casings 33" (fresh or collagen)
    And tie the ends so I can flip the rings and prevent over cooking the top half of the sausage.
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    Smoking & Grilling

  • Sure Gel Questions
    D Dan Ferdinande

    TexLaw great recommendations, I was thinking about the water. I pulled the snack stik meat from a fresh sausage mix and added cure and binder to tryout the new electric smoker. I added more water when I mixed in the cure and binder and that would explain the excess. Thanks again.

    Meat Processing

  • Sure Gel Questions
    D Dan Ferdinande

    I also have a spongy chew on a batch I made recently???
    First time using a binder from a local supplier @2.27 g per lb.
    Snack sticks look good and maintained there shape after smoking and water bath, when I remove the collagen casing (its stuck on there good)the “chew” is much better.
    Also first time using an electric smoker (masterbuilt 30) followed the smoke schedule until the last hour then used a bit higher temp to finish.
    No cure accelerator was used, I stuffed the night before.
    I’ll likely try it again with less binder for starters.

    Meat Processing

  • Rotate snack sticks on dowels?
    D Dan Ferdinande

    I also tie off the ropes and rotate top to bottom for more even cooking.
    Usually the top will reach 160 and the bottom of the rope is 140. I am using a weber smokey mountain with a sausage hanging rack and pre cut the casings at 30 inches for consistency of size and keeping them centered in the cook chamber.

    Smoking & Grilling

  • Cure accelerators and cure?
    D Dan Ferdinande

    Jonathon that should really help with the snack stix…sometimes its a struggle especially with the collagen casings. Thanks again to everyone for the comments and helpful hints.

    Meat Processing

  • Cure accelerators and cure?
    D Dan Ferdinande

    TexLaw
    Thanks, that’s a good tip.

    Meat Processing

  • Cure accelerators and cure?
    D Dan Ferdinande

    Jonathon one more thing.
    With a cure accelerator I can go from stuffing directly to smoking. Does that also mean I can go directly from mixing to stuffing? I have seen that eca is added at the end of mixing.

    Meat Processing

  • Cure accelerators and cure?
    D Dan Ferdinande

    Jonathon

    Thanks

    Meat Processing

  • Cure accelerators and cure?
    D Dan Ferdinande

    When making smoked sausage
    (kielbasa/snacks sticks) i typically mix and refrigerate overnight before stuffing, then another overnight in the fridge to form the pellicle.

    I am looking for guidelines for using a cure accelerator like sodium erythorbate and/or encapsulated citric acid.

    Do I use either one in addition to the pink salt or inplace of the pink salt?

    Also, will adding one or both allow me to mix, stuff and smoke all in the same day? Some kits have a “super cure” and the instructions allow for the whole process in one day.

    Thanks,

    Dan

    Meat Processing
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