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  • JonathonJ Offline
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    Jonathon
    Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    darren McLaren Well if you use 1 lb of meat in that calculator (451 grams) then you need 13.61 grams of seasoning/cure, for the dry rub it is 9 grams per lb of meat, that is a 50% difference and could ruin your product, I wouldn’t risk it if I were you. I have requested an LOP from Excalibur on the Dry Rub Bacon to see what the salt content is and we can take the low range they give us and then you can work out how much you would need to be at 3% of the weight of the meat but the LOP can change as they change ingredients so it won’t necessarily be the same 6 months from now.

    Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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    • darren McLarenD Offline
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      darren McLaren
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      Jonathon thanks for that it will be interesting. I Just go off the salt needed ignore the rest ie 1lb meat = 9 grams cure if you run it through the calculator in grams 451 grams it will advise you to add 7.96 grams of dry rub which is 1 gram off advised by excalibur. If you want adjust the calculator so it reads 9 grams per 451 grams of meat you can change the nitrates to 10 PPM to give you an exact readingHandy Universal Cure Calculator
      Weight of Meat in Grams…
      451
      grams
      Cure #1 % Nitrite…
      6.25
      %
      Salt % Desired…
      2
      %
      Sugar % Desired…
      1
      %
      Parts Per Million (PPM) Nitrite…
      10
      Cure #1 Needed…
      0.07
      grams
      Salt Needed…
      8.95
      grams
      Sugar Needed…
      4.51
      grams
      Total
      464.53
      gram

      However as I find the dry rub cure a great taste but a little salt if going by advised recommendations. I use it as 8 grams without changing the PPM

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      • darren McLarenD Offline
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        darren McLaren
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        #16

        Jonathon thanks for that it will be interesting. I Just go off the salt needed ignore the rest ie 1lb meat = 9 grams cure if you run it through the calculator in grams 451 grams it will advise you to add 7.96 grams of dry rub which is 1 gram off advised by excalibur.
        Handy Universal Cure Calculator
        Weight of Meat in Grams…
        451
        grams
        Cure #1 % Nitrite…
        6.25
        %
        Salt % Desired…
        2
        %
        Sugar % Desired…
        1
        %
        Parts Per Million (PPM) Nitrite…
        156
        Cure #1 Needed…
        1.13
        grams
        Salt Needed…
        7.96
        grams
        Sugar Needed…
        4.51
        grams
        Total
        464.6
        grams

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          kodda322
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          #17

          For the Chicago ham spice what is the ratio of this seasoning to water for injecting hams?

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          • JonathonJ Offline
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            Jonathon
            Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
            wrote on last edited by
            #18

            kodda322 Chicago isn’t available on the web so we don’t have that broken down. However, it is .5 lb of spice to 10 gallons of water for a pickle. If you are using that I’d assume you are a commercial processor so I’d encourage you to reach out to our commercials ales team at 800-835-2832 Hope that helped!

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            • JonathonJ Jonathon
              <Cure Conversion
              Have you ever bought some of Walton's seasoning, but didn't want to make a full 25 lb batch? Well, we have made things simpler now and you can quickly and easily measure out how much seasoning to use for smaller 1 lb or 5 lb batches. The best way to measure out seasonings-cures-additives is with a very accurate scale, if you do not have access to a scale that weighs in fractions of oz or in grams then you can use the volume measurements we have provided as a guideline.
              Seasoning SKU Usage per 1 lb Meat Volume (Weight) Water Usage per 5 lb Meat Volume (Weight) Water
              All Natural Ham and Bacon Cure 4560490600 4.5 tsp (.8 oz / 22.6 g) 2.4 oz ¼ cup 3 tbs 1 ½ tsp (4 oz / 113.2 g) 12 oz
              Blue Ribbon Maple Bacon Cure G4560410009 2 tsp (.32 oz / 9 g) 1.32 oz 3 tbsp and 1 tsp (1.6 oz / 45 g) 6.6 oz
              Blue Ribbon Maple Cure for Ham 4560400029 1.5 tsp (.34 oz / 9 g) 1.3 oz 2 tbsp and 1 ½ tsp (1.7 oz / 48 g) 5.8 oz
              Brown Sugar Cure 4560400009 2 ½ tsp (.3 oz / 9 g) 1.3 oz 2 tbsp and 2 ¾ tsp (1.5 oz / 45 g) 6.6 oz
              Complete Bacon Cure 4560410039 1 ¾ tsp (.3 oz / 9 g) 1.3 oz ¼ cup ½ tsp (1.5 oz / 45 g) 6.6 oz
              Complete White Bacon Cure 4560410029 2.5 tsp (.3 oz / 9 g) 1.3 oz ¼ cup 2 tsp (1.5 oz / 45 g) 6.6 oz
              Complete White Bacon Cure 4560410029 2.5 tsp (.3 oz / 9 g) 1.3 oz ¼ cup 2 tsp (1.5 oz / 45 g) 6.6 oz
              Country Brown Sugar Cure 4560400209-5 1.5 tsp (.3 oz / 9 g) 1.3 oz 2 tbsp and ½ tsp (1.5 oz / 45 g) 6.6 oz
              Double Maple Cure 4560410059 2 tsp (.32 oz / 9 g) 1.3 oz 3 tbsp and 1 tsp (1.7 oz / 48 g) 6.6 oz
              Dry Rub Bacon Cure 4560410069 1 tbsp 2 tsp (.8 oz / 22 g) N/A 1/2 cup 1 tsp (4 oz / 113 g) N/A
              Extra White Sugar Cure 4560400730-V 1 ¼ tsp (.3 oz / 9 g) 2.3 oz 2 tbsp and ½ tsp (1.6 oz / 45 g) 11.5 oz
              Holly Quick Cure 4560490195 1.5 tsp or (.3 oz / 9 g) 1.3 oz 3 tbsp and 1 tsp (1.5 oz / 45 g) 6.6 oz
              MRT Smoke Sugar Cure 4560427318 1 ¾ tsp (.4 oz / 11 g) Dry Rub 2 tbsp and 2 ¾ tsp (2 oz / 56 g) Dry Rub
              MRT Sugar Cure 4560427328 1 ¾ tsp (.4 oz) Dry Rub 2 tbsp and 2 ¾ tsp (2 oz) Dry Rub
              Sure Cure (Pink) 4560490009 1/4 tsp (.04 oz / 1 g) N/A 1 1/4 tsp (.2 oz / 5 g) N/A
              Sweeter than Sweet 4560400109-V 1 ¼ tsp (.25 oz / 7 g) 1.3 oz 2 tbsp and ½ tsp (1.2 oz / 35 g) 6.6 oz
              W Special Maple Cure 4560400139 1 ¼ tsp (.25 oz / 7 g) 1.3 oz 2 tbsp and ½ tsp (1.2 oz / 35 g) 6.6 oz
              Walton's Complete Turkey Cure 4560491149-5 1 tsp (.21 oz 6 g) 1.3 oz 1 tbsp and 2 tsp (1.5 oz / 29 g) 6.6 oz
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              Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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              Jonathon Any way this chart could be made printable?

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                Jonathon
                Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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                #20

                Chef someone has converted it to a pdf i think somewhere but I dont think it is something Austin has an interest in doing but we can check!

                Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                  johnsbrewhouse
                  Team Blue Regular Contributors Traeger Power User Veteran Sous Vide Canning
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #21

                  I have the chart in a .pdf file I believe. I will check tonight when I get done making dinner.

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                  • JonathonJ Jonathon

                    Chef someone has converted it to a pdf i think somewhere but I dont think it is something Austin has an interest in doing but we can check!

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                    johnsbrewhouse
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                    #22

                    Jonathon Actually it is in an excel spreadsheet

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                    • JonathonJ Jonathon

                      Chef someone has converted it to a pdf i think somewhere but I dont think it is something Austin has an interest in doing but we can check!

                      ChefC Offline
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                      Chef
                      Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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                      #23

                      Jonathon just made an excel spread sheet. How can I upload it?

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                      • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

                        Jonathon Actually it is in an excel spreadsheet

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                        calldoctoday
                        Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
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                        #24

                        johnsbrewhouse, Chef, That is amazing. You guys make me feel bad that I did not help more as I had developed some numbers some time ago, but only on about four of the brines, etc. that I have used & then then just went to a better scale & basic math. Super Kudos to both of you guys for going the extra mile & creating those sheets.

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                        • C calldoctoday

                          johnsbrewhouse, Chef, That is amazing. You guys make me feel bad that I did not help more as I had developed some numbers some time ago, but only on about four of the brines, etc. that I have used & then then just went to a better scale & basic math. Super Kudos to both of you guys for going the extra mile & creating those sheets.

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                          Chef
                          Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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                          #25

                          calldoctoday just need to find out how to upload them…

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                            calldoctoday just need to find out how to upload them…

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                            calldoctoday
                            Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
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                            #26

                            Chef Have you tried either converting them to a PDF (cute PDF or something) or doing the snip it thing that basically seems to convert to a photo file if the pdf will not work, then uploading just like a normal photo? If not, I am thinking either take a real good photo of it & upload that or see if Jonathon or someone at Walton’s can do it for you. Pardon me for not having something concrete that is tried & tested, but I am gathering that one of the ideas should work. I would start with the first & easiest.

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                              johnsbrewhouse
                              Team Blue Regular Contributors Traeger Power User Veteran Sous Vide Canning
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                              #27

                              Here is a link to the conversion chart https://docs.google.com/document/d/1snsmhdYo5z-EaWdiS-UNUC_r4JnDLRCY0wH-Yed27iM/edit?usp=sharing

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                                Chef Have you tried either converting them to a PDF (cute PDF or something) or doing the snip it thing that basically seems to convert to a photo file if the pdf will not work, then uploading just like a normal photo? If not, I am thinking either take a real good photo of it & upload that or see if Jonathon or someone at Walton’s can do it for you. Pardon me for not having something concrete that is tried & tested, but I am gathering that one of the ideas should work. I would start with the first & easiest.

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                                Canning Dry Cured Sausage Primo Grills Team Blue Sous Vide Power User Cast Iron
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                                calldoctoday really didn’t want a photo so people could use formulas as they wanted

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                                • ChefC Chef

                                  calldoctoday really didn’t want a photo so people could use formulas as they wanted

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                                  Chef Gotcha! You really have it set up then.

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                                    processhead
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                                    Not sure if there is any interest in this, but I have a general purpose conversion spreadsheet that will let you calculate reduced batch seasoning amount for any seasoning.

                                    You enter in the meat block weight and the net weight of the seasoning pack (for 25 lb batch) and it calculates the amount of seasoning and cure for you in ounces and grams. It is an Excel spreadsheet.

                                    If you want to play around with it, send me your email via private chat and I can send you a copy.

                                    Conversion.jpg

                                    Paul

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                                    • processheadP processhead

                                      Not sure if there is any interest in this, but I have a general purpose conversion spreadsheet that will let you calculate reduced batch seasoning amount for any seasoning.

                                      You enter in the meat block weight and the net weight of the seasoning pack (for 25 lb batch) and it calculates the amount of seasoning and cure for you in ounces and grams. It is an Excel spreadsheet.

                                      If you want to play around with it, send me your email via private chat and I can send you a copy.

                                      Conversion.jpg

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                                      processhead
                                      Want to check that conversion chart out but can’t send you a chat. Some error message about restricted?

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                                      • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                        processhead
                                        Want to check that conversion chart out but can’t send you a chat. Some error message about restricted?

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                                        processhead
                                        Regular Contributors Power User
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                                        PapaSop said in Cure Conversion Chart:

                                        processhead
                                        Want to check that conversion chart out but can’t send you a chat. Some error message about restricted?

                                        Just sent you a chat message. You can see if you can reply to it.

                                        Paul

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                                        • processheadP processhead

                                          Not sure if there is any interest in this, but I have a general purpose conversion spreadsheet that will let you calculate reduced batch seasoning amount for any seasoning.

                                          You enter in the meat block weight and the net weight of the seasoning pack (for 25 lb batch) and it calculates the amount of seasoning and cure for you in ounces and grams. It is an Excel spreadsheet.

                                          If you want to play around with it, send me your email via private chat and I can send you a copy.

                                          Conversion.jpg

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                                          processhead I’m also interested in your chart but don’t know how to send a personal chat

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