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    sheleyp1
    Yearling
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    TexLaw

    In My part of the great USA, I always have better result growing brassica as a fall plant. Daikon and Napa cabbage bolts if I do a spring planting. Great for seed collection but not so good for the table.

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      TexLaw

      In My part of the great USA, I always have better result growing brassica as a fall plant. Daikon and Napa cabbage bolts if I do a spring planting. Great for seed collection but not so good for the table.

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      TexLaw
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      sheleyp1 I always expect the same thing around here, but I have these incredible lacinato kale plants that both flourishe through the Summer without bolting but also have survived multiple freezes (including last year’s whopper). These dadgum things are over 2 years old and show no sign of slowing down.

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        sheleyp1
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        Now I see how you were able to make up the difference in the kimchi. Great looking plants! Here the worms would have a field day. Wonder how strait Kale kimchi would taste?

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        • TexLawT TexLaw

          sheleyp1 I always expect the same thing around here, but I have these incredible lacinato kale plants that both flourishe through the Summer without bolting but also have survived multiple freezes (including last year’s whopper). These dadgum things are over 2 years old and show no sign of slowing down.

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          calldoctoday
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          TexLaw I need to find me some of that type. I have never seen around here or elsewhere that I recall. Where did you get them or the seeds?

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            TexLaw I need to find me some of that type. I have never seen around here or elsewhere that I recall. Where did you get them or the seeds?

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            TexLaw
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            calldoctoday I don’t recall because it’s been a while! LOL! It had to be either Burpee’s or Hudson Valley Seed Co.

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            • S sheleyp1

              Now I see how you were able to make up the difference in the kimchi. Great looking plants! Here the worms would have a field day. Wonder how strait Kale kimchi would taste?

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              TexLaw
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              sheleyp1 Just judging from the kale I put into this batch, it would taste pretty good. However, it also would be MIGHTY chewy.

              I don’t mind at all having some chewy bits here and there in this kimchi. In fact, I quite like it. However, I think a straight batch would not be good to eat on it’s own unless you chopped the kale into much smaller bits than you traditionally would the napa cabbage.

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                calldoctoday I figured it could only be a small mistake, so I gave it a whirl. It’s a close cousin to Napa cabbage, after all.

                My largest concern was that it would be too tough, but it’s fine. In fact, I rather enjoy the additional texture, so I’ll likely continue adding kale.

                I did salt and rinse it the same way I did the cabbage, but I don’t know that did much–very little liquid came out. What was more important was “massaging” it to tenderize it after I had chopped it up. It’s lacinto kale, so it’s especially tough (but tasty!)

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                cdavis
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                TexLaw man that looks great. Never had but I would sure give it a whirl.

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                • TexLawT TexLaw

                  Y’all got me up out of my chair and in the kitchen to make some kimchi. I had a jar of paste already put away in the fridge, so easy enough. I was absolutely wrong about making only a 5-pound batch, though. I bought two heads of cabbage that totaled out to about 6 pounds and, as you will see below, I had plenty of room to make a 10-pound batch. I need to remember that!

                  Cabbage chopped, salted, and ready to sit for 90 minutes (mixing up every 30 minutes):

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                  Cabbage after salting, rinsing, and draining. Plus, the other goodies–the paste, a couple of grated carrots, chopped green onion, and extra freshly grated ginger:

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                  All mixed up:

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                  And set aside to ferment for what turned out to be about 24 hours:

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                  I didn’t like all thar room in the jar, so I went and picked a bunch of kale that I chopped, salted, rinsed, and added to that mix. It still didn’t fill up the jar, but it got closer (and it came out pretty tasty!) I forgot the photo, though.

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                  YooperDog
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                  TexLaw that is some kind of tasty sitting in that jar. My sister and I could put a serious dent in that jar in one sitting. That is crazy addicting stuff.

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                    Denny O
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                    Well I emptied 2 - 1/2 gallon jars and filled 6 quart jars,

                    Filled 6 quarts 5-2022.jpg

                    then vacuumed them for the refrigerator.

                    Vac sealed 5-2022.jpg

                    That will last me for the year (unless I give half of it away again!!
                    ;<)

                    Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                    I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                    Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                    • Denny OD Denny O

                      Well I emptied 2 - 1/2 gallon jars and filled 6 quart jars,

                      Filled 6 quarts 5-2022.jpg

                      then vacuumed them for the refrigerator.

                      Vac sealed 5-2022.jpg

                      That will last me for the year (unless I give half of it away again!!
                      ;<)

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                      Dave in AZ
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                      Denny O thx for the follow up, your post is really making me consider trying this. I’ve had store bought kraut 4 times probably since your first post. I’m just leery since my 1st try at naturally fermented dill pickles, many years ago, did not turn out too well.

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                      • Denny OD Denny O

                        Well I emptied 2 - 1/2 gallon jars and filled 6 quart jars,

                        Filled 6 quarts 5-2022.jpg

                        then vacuumed them for the refrigerator.

                        Vac sealed 5-2022.jpg

                        That will last me for the year (unless I give half of it away again!!
                        ;<)

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                        cdavis
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                        Denny O 👍

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                        • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                          Denny O thx for the follow up, your post is really making me consider trying this. I’ve had store bought kraut 4 times probably since your first post. I’m just leery since my 1st try at naturally fermented dill pickles, many years ago, did not turn out too well.

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                          bocephus
                          Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
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                          Dave in AZ I remember the first time I made kraut in a 5 gallon plastic bucket, I was pretty nervous trying that first bite. now 30 years later I use crocks with lips for a water seal and look forward to the first taste of a new batch.

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                          • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                            Denny O thx for the follow up, your post is really making me consider trying this. I’ve had store bought kraut 4 times probably since your first post. I’m just leery since my 1st try at naturally fermented dill pickles, many years ago, did not turn out too well.

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                            Denny O
                            Power User Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill
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                            Dave in AZ It took me quite a while to pull the trigger myself. But once I bought into the Mason Pickle Tops, it has been easy peasy.

                            Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                            I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                            Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                              Dave in AZ I remember the first time I made kraut in a 5 gallon plastic bucket, I was pretty nervous trying that first bite. now 30 years later I use crocks with lips for a water seal and look forward to the first taste of a new batch.

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                              bocephus Denny O I saved the link someone posted for the pickle tops, sounds like I need to buy a few, thx

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                              • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                                bocephus Denny O I saved the link someone posted for the pickle tops, sounds like I need to buy a few, thx

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                                Denny O
                                Power User Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill
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                                Dave in AZ
                                This is the kit I have
                                https://www.coopmarket.com/products/masontops-complete-mason-jar-fermentation-kit-wide-mouth?gclid=CjwKCAjw9-KTBhBcEiwAr19ig2Gx3X0IvcnMALcOplsqUqksfEZhWqoiD09JoL3ykBFDt387XNtRjxoC3ZkQAvD_BwE

                                Then I purchased 4 - 1/2 gallon mason jars and the nylon bands to go with them

                                Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                                I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                                Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                                  Dave in AZ
                                  This is the kit I have
                                  https://www.coopmarket.com/products/masontops-complete-mason-jar-fermentation-kit-wide-mouth?gclid=CjwKCAjw9-KTBhBcEiwAr19ig2Gx3X0IvcnMALcOplsqUqksfEZhWqoiD09JoL3ykBFDt387XNtRjxoC3ZkQAvD_BwE

                                  Then I purchased 4 - 1/2 gallon mason jars and the nylon bands to go with them

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                                  Dave in AZ
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                                  Denny O thx denny!

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                                  • TexLawT TexLaw

                                    sheleyp1 I always expect the same thing around here, but I have these incredible lacinato kale plants that both flourishe through the Summer without bolting but also have survived multiple freezes (including last year’s whopper). These dadgum things are over 2 years old and show no sign of slowing down.

                                    20220324_162901.jpg

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                                    calldoctoday
                                    Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
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                                    TexLaw We made a big batch of Kale chips a few weeks ago that were better than I thought they would be. However, something tells me your style Kale would work better for that than the curly kale that we have been growing.

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                                    • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                                      Denny O thx denny!

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                                      Denny O
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                                      Dave in AZ Dave, I get 3 quartz out of a hard packed 1/2 gallon. You will need to mix up several quarts of brine @ a 2% pickling salt solution. To make it easy I set my little digital scale to grams and zero the jar on the scale. Then add 800 grams bottled water, then 16 grams of the salt. Screw on a flat and shake till it is clear and add to my filled quart jars.

                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReNq7R0cPXg

                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpLg359yT4k

                                      Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                                      I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                                      Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                                      • C calldoctoday

                                        TexLaw We made a big batch of Kale chips a few weeks ago that were better than I thought they would be. However, something tells me your style Kale would work better for that than the curly kale that we have been growing.

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                                        TexLaw
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                                        calldoctoday Well, hunt up some seeds and plant away. I’ve never grown anything that was this easy. You can find it under “lacinato kale,” “Tuscan kale,” or “dino kale.”

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                                        • TexLawT TexLaw

                                          calldoctoday Well, hunt up some seeds and plant away. I’ve never grown anything that was this easy. You can find it under “lacinato kale,” “Tuscan kale,” or “dino kale.”

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                                          calldoctoday
                                          Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
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                                          TexLaw I am going to do just that. Our curly kale has already bit the dust, just for this year. Got several gallon bags frozen though, several gallons dehydrated into kale chips, & two nice pearl barley, kale, & pork roast dinners, so I cannot complain though.

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