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  • TexLawT TexLaw

    Y’all got me up out of my chair and in the kitchen to make some kimchi. I had a jar of paste already put away in the fridge, so easy enough. I was absolutely wrong about making only a 5-pound batch, though. I bought two heads of cabbage that totaled out to about 6 pounds and, as you will see below, I had plenty of room to make a 10-pound batch. I need to remember that!

    Cabbage chopped, salted, and ready to sit for 90 minutes (mixing up every 30 minutes):

    20220324_130610.jpg

    Cabbage after salting, rinsing, and draining. Plus, the other goodies–the paste, a couple of grated carrots, chopped green onion, and extra freshly grated ginger:

    20220324_144151.jpg

    All mixed up:

    20220324_144910.jpg

    And set aside to ferment for what turned out to be about 24 hours:

    20220324_145522.jpg

    I didn’t like all thar room in the jar, so I went and picked a bunch of kale that I chopped, salted, rinsed, and added to that mix. It still didn’t fill up the jar, but it got closer (and it came out pretty tasty!) I forgot the photo, though.

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    wdaly
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    TexLaw I couldn’t tell from the pictures. Are you able to get daikon radishes? If so do you use them? I have trouble finding them and didn’t have any luck growing them last year. They all went to tops and bolted.

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    • Denny OD Denny O

      TexLaw What kind of cabbage is that in the bowl, Napa Cabbage? Then you added a Kale that is a close cousin to Napa cabbage?

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      TexLaw
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      #31

      @dennyo-s Yes, that’s Napa cabbage in the bowl. I added the kale later on and didn’t get a picture.

      If I use kale in the future, it’ll go in with the Napa cabbage. The reason it went in later this time was because it was an afterthought.

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      • Denny OD Denny O

        I’ve got a question.

        How do all of you put 10 pounds of cabbage, 3 nice large heads into two half gallon jars?

        Ya, OK you all got me. I finally got it done tonight.

        Because I stomp all 10 pounds at one time and fill into the 2 jars to ferment for 4 weeks, Can I add the caraway and the mustard seeds after I divvy them into quart jars to store?

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        @dennyo-s said in Kraut:

        Because I stomp all 10 pounds at one time and fill into the 2 jars to ferment for 4 weeks, Can I add the caraway and the mustard seeds after I divvy them into quart jars to store?

        You could do that, but I’d rather add the seeds when I stomp the cabbage. It all mixes up a bit when I do that, anyhow, so it would be some extra effort to go back and mix in the seeds later.

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        • wdalyW wdaly

          TexLaw I couldn’t tell from the pictures. Are you able to get daikon radishes? If so do you use them? I have trouble finding them and didn’t have any luck growing them last year. They all went to tops and bolted.

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          wdaly I didn’t add any daikon to this batch, but I can easily get them around here. We have Asian groceries all over the place.

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            TexLaw

            In My part of the great USA, I always have better result growing brassica as a fall plant. Daikon and Napa cabbage bolts if I do a spring planting. Great for seed collection but not so good for the table.

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            • S sheleyp1

              TexLaw

              In My part of the great USA, I always have better result growing brassica as a fall plant. Daikon and Napa cabbage bolts if I do a spring planting. Great for seed collection but not so good for the table.

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              sheleyp1 I always expect the same thing around here, but I have these incredible lacinato kale plants that both flourishe through the Summer without bolting but also have survived multiple freezes (including last year’s whopper). These dadgum things are over 2 years old and show no sign of slowing down.

              20220324_162901.jpg

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                Now I see how you were able to make up the difference in the kimchi. Great looking plants! Here the worms would have a field day. Wonder how strait Kale kimchi would taste?

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                • TexLawT TexLaw

                  sheleyp1 I always expect the same thing around here, but I have these incredible lacinato kale plants that both flourishe through the Summer without bolting but also have survived multiple freezes (including last year’s whopper). These dadgum things are over 2 years old and show no sign of slowing down.

                  20220324_162901.jpg

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                  calldoctoday
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                  TexLaw I need to find me some of that type. I have never seen around here or elsewhere that I recall. Where did you get them or the seeds?

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                    TexLaw I need to find me some of that type. I have never seen around here or elsewhere that I recall. Where did you get them or the seeds?

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                    #38

                    calldoctoday I don’t recall because it’s been a while! LOL! It had to be either Burpee’s or Hudson Valley Seed Co.

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                    • S sheleyp1

                      Now I see how you were able to make up the difference in the kimchi. Great looking plants! Here the worms would have a field day. Wonder how strait Kale kimchi would taste?

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                      sheleyp1 Just judging from the kale I put into this batch, it would taste pretty good. However, it also would be MIGHTY chewy.

                      I don’t mind at all having some chewy bits here and there in this kimchi. In fact, I quite like it. However, I think a straight batch would not be good to eat on it’s own unless you chopped the kale into much smaller bits than you traditionally would the napa cabbage.

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                      • TexLawT TexLaw

                        calldoctoday I figured it could only be a small mistake, so I gave it a whirl. It’s a close cousin to Napa cabbage, after all.

                        My largest concern was that it would be too tough, but it’s fine. In fact, I rather enjoy the additional texture, so I’ll likely continue adding kale.

                        I did salt and rinse it the same way I did the cabbage, but I don’t know that did much–very little liquid came out. What was more important was “massaging” it to tenderize it after I had chopped it up. It’s lacinto kale, so it’s especially tough (but tasty!)

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                        #40

                        TexLaw man that looks great. Never had but I would sure give it a whirl.

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                        • TexLawT TexLaw

                          Y’all got me up out of my chair and in the kitchen to make some kimchi. I had a jar of paste already put away in the fridge, so easy enough. I was absolutely wrong about making only a 5-pound batch, though. I bought two heads of cabbage that totaled out to about 6 pounds and, as you will see below, I had plenty of room to make a 10-pound batch. I need to remember that!

                          Cabbage chopped, salted, and ready to sit for 90 minutes (mixing up every 30 minutes):

                          20220324_130610.jpg

                          Cabbage after salting, rinsing, and draining. Plus, the other goodies–the paste, a couple of grated carrots, chopped green onion, and extra freshly grated ginger:

                          20220324_144151.jpg

                          All mixed up:

                          20220324_144910.jpg

                          And set aside to ferment for what turned out to be about 24 hours:

                          20220324_145522.jpg

                          I didn’t like all thar room in the jar, so I went and picked a bunch of kale that I chopped, salted, rinsed, and added to that mix. It still didn’t fill up the jar, but it got closer (and it came out pretty tasty!) I forgot the photo, though.

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                          TexLaw that is some kind of tasty sitting in that jar. My sister and I could put a serious dent in that jar in one sitting. That is crazy addicting stuff.

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                            Well I emptied 2 - 1/2 gallon jars and filled 6 quart jars,

                            Filled 6 quarts 5-2022.jpg

                            then vacuumed them for the refrigerator.

                            Vac sealed 5-2022.jpg

                            That will last me for the year (unless I give half of it away again!!
                            ;<)

                            Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                            I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                            Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                            • Denny OD Denny O

                              Well I emptied 2 - 1/2 gallon jars and filled 6 quart jars,

                              Filled 6 quarts 5-2022.jpg

                              then vacuumed them for the refrigerator.

                              Vac sealed 5-2022.jpg

                              That will last me for the year (unless I give half of it away again!!
                              ;<)

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                              Denny O thx for the follow up, your post is really making me consider trying this. I’ve had store bought kraut 4 times probably since your first post. I’m just leery since my 1st try at naturally fermented dill pickles, many years ago, did not turn out too well.

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                              • Denny OD Denny O

                                Well I emptied 2 - 1/2 gallon jars and filled 6 quart jars,

                                Filled 6 quarts 5-2022.jpg

                                then vacuumed them for the refrigerator.

                                Vac sealed 5-2022.jpg

                                That will last me for the year (unless I give half of it away again!!
                                ;<)

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                                Denny O 👍

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                                • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                                  Denny O thx for the follow up, your post is really making me consider trying this. I’ve had store bought kraut 4 times probably since your first post. I’m just leery since my 1st try at naturally fermented dill pickles, many years ago, did not turn out too well.

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                                  bocephus
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                                  Dave in AZ I remember the first time I made kraut in a 5 gallon plastic bucket, I was pretty nervous trying that first bite. now 30 years later I use crocks with lips for a water seal and look forward to the first taste of a new batch.

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                                  • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                                    Denny O thx for the follow up, your post is really making me consider trying this. I’ve had store bought kraut 4 times probably since your first post. I’m just leery since my 1st try at naturally fermented dill pickles, many years ago, did not turn out too well.

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                                    Power User Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #46

                                    Dave in AZ It took me quite a while to pull the trigger myself. But once I bought into the Mason Pickle Tops, it has been easy peasy.

                                    Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                                    I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                                    Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                                    • B bocephus

                                      Dave in AZ I remember the first time I made kraut in a 5 gallon plastic bucket, I was pretty nervous trying that first bite. now 30 years later I use crocks with lips for a water seal and look forward to the first taste of a new batch.

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                                      #47

                                      bocephus Denny O I saved the link someone posted for the pickle tops, sounds like I need to buy a few, thx

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                                      • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                                        bocephus Denny O I saved the link someone posted for the pickle tops, sounds like I need to buy a few, thx

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                                        #48

                                        Dave in AZ
                                        This is the kit I have
                                        https://www.coopmarket.com/products/masontops-complete-mason-jar-fermentation-kit-wide-mouth?gclid=CjwKCAjw9-KTBhBcEiwAr19ig2Gx3X0IvcnMALcOplsqUqksfEZhWqoiD09JoL3ykBFDt387XNtRjxoC3ZkQAvD_BwE

                                        Then I purchased 4 - 1/2 gallon mason jars and the nylon bands to go with them

                                        Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                                        I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                                        Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                                        • Denny OD Denny O

                                          Dave in AZ
                                          This is the kit I have
                                          https://www.coopmarket.com/products/masontops-complete-mason-jar-fermentation-kit-wide-mouth?gclid=CjwKCAjw9-KTBhBcEiwAr19ig2Gx3X0IvcnMALcOplsqUqksfEZhWqoiD09JoL3ykBFDt387XNtRjxoC3ZkQAvD_BwE

                                          Then I purchased 4 - 1/2 gallon mason jars and the nylon bands to go with them

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                                          Denny O thx denny!

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