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  • C calldoctoday

    @dennyo-s We just eyeball our pickling salt, but have it down pretty much & the goal is about what you mentioned. If we do smaller batches, we measure. Put a few inches of shredded cabbage into the crock, add the salt with some mustard seed & fennel or carraway, depending on the mood & perhaps a little Dill. Stomp with the stomper, do a few more inches or so, & keep up till we near the top. Then add a few whole cabbage leaves to the top, add the weights, & cover it up in Andrew’s closet on a pan with a towel lining it. We usually do just about 3 months, I really like my Kraut, Krauty.

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    calldoctoday - I’m definitely going longer with this batch but not sure I’ve been blessed with enough patience to go 3 months. I’ll bet it is delicious.

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      I also do 2%. Shred the cabbage and weigh it. Weigh out 2% of that weight in salt. I always add caraway, and I might add something else (dill, fennel, cumin, dried red chile). I’ve never added mustard seed, but I’ll be sure and give that a try next time. I like to let mine go 7 weeks.

      I typically stomp mine into my crock along the lines of what calldoctoday does, but I mixed the last batch by hand because I added some grated carrot and wanted that mixed evenly.

      For those who were wondering about kimchi, I’ve used Maangchi’s simple kimchi recipe as a starting point and been happy. I add more ginger (because I like it), and I leave out the squid or oysters (because I like it better that way), and I make about a 5 pound batch instead of 10 (because that’s all I have room for). I typically let it get it a little more on the sour side. Doak likes his kimchi funky.

      I do go ahead and make the full batch of “porridge” so that I only have to do that every other time. In fact, I might very well make a double batch of “porridge” because it actually improves as sits in the back of the fridge.

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      • Bob StehlikB Bob Stehlik

        @bmartin1000 Looks good. I love those fermentation jars. I got one about a year ago and then found the kits (compression spring & lids). I have a ton of qt. jars so we get 3-4 jars going at once just like you. Tried Kimchi but still trying to get it right.

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        Bob Stehlik

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTucCw1w6Ak

        Go to the folks that have been doing for a long time. Kimchi is my go to food when a cold or flu strikes. I have made her variation and it is close to what I had in S Korea.

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        • S sheleyp1

          Bob Stehlik

          www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTucCw1w6Ak

          Go to the folks that have been doing for a long time. Kimchi is my go to food when a cold or flu strikes. I have made her variation and it is close to what I had in S Korea.

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          sheleyp1 Thanks. Great video. We are going to make a batch using her method.

          Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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          • S sheleyp1

            Bob Stehlik

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTucCw1w6Ak

            Go to the folks that have been doing for a long time. Kimchi is my go to food when a cold or flu strikes. I have made her variation and it is close to what I had in S Korea.

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            sheleyp1 Great video, brought back some good memories, definitely going to give it a try

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            • S sheleyp1

              Bob Stehlik

              www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTucCw1w6Ak

              Go to the folks that have been doing for a long time. Kimchi is my go to food when a cold or flu strikes. I have made her variation and it is close to what I had in S Korea.

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              sheleyp1 I’ve watched her before. She’s always entertaining and makes some good looking kimchi.

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              • TexLawT TexLaw

                I also do 2%. Shred the cabbage and weigh it. Weigh out 2% of that weight in salt. I always add caraway, and I might add something else (dill, fennel, cumin, dried red chile). I’ve never added mustard seed, but I’ll be sure and give that a try next time. I like to let mine go 7 weeks.

                I typically stomp mine into my crock along the lines of what calldoctoday does, but I mixed the last batch by hand because I added some grated carrot and wanted that mixed evenly.

                For those who were wondering about kimchi, I’ve used Maangchi’s simple kimchi recipe as a starting point and been happy. I add more ginger (because I like it), and I leave out the squid or oysters (because I like it better that way), and I make about a 5 pound batch instead of 10 (because that’s all I have room for). I typically let it get it a little more on the sour side. Doak likes his kimchi funky.

                I do go ahead and make the full batch of “porridge” so that I only have to do that every other time. In fact, I might very well make a double batch of “porridge” because it actually improves as sits in the back of the fridge.

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                Team Orange PK100 Sous Vide Power User
                wrote on last edited by
                #23

                Y’all got me up out of my chair and in the kitchen to make some kimchi. I had a jar of paste already put away in the fridge, so easy enough. I was absolutely wrong about making only a 5-pound batch, though. I bought two heads of cabbage that totaled out to about 6 pounds and, as you will see below, I had plenty of room to make a 10-pound batch. I need to remember that!

                Cabbage chopped, salted, and ready to sit for 90 minutes (mixing up every 30 minutes):

                20220324_130610.jpg

                Cabbage after salting, rinsing, and draining. Plus, the other goodies–the paste, a couple of grated carrots, chopped green onion, and extra freshly grated ginger:

                20220324_144151.jpg

                All mixed up:

                20220324_144910.jpg

                And set aside to ferment for what turned out to be about 24 hours:

                20220324_145522.jpg

                I didn’t like all thar room in the jar, so I went and picked a bunch of kale that I chopped, salted, rinsed, and added to that mix. It still didn’t fill up the jar, but it got closer (and it came out pretty tasty!) I forgot the photo, though.

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                • TexLawT TexLaw

                  Y’all got me up out of my chair and in the kitchen to make some kimchi. I had a jar of paste already put away in the fridge, so easy enough. I was absolutely wrong about making only a 5-pound batch, though. I bought two heads of cabbage that totaled out to about 6 pounds and, as you will see below, I had plenty of room to make a 10-pound batch. I need to remember that!

                  Cabbage chopped, salted, and ready to sit for 90 minutes (mixing up every 30 minutes):

                  20220324_130610.jpg

                  Cabbage after salting, rinsing, and draining. Plus, the other goodies–the paste, a couple of grated carrots, chopped green onion, and extra freshly grated ginger:

                  20220324_144151.jpg

                  All mixed up:

                  20220324_144910.jpg

                  And set aside to ferment for what turned out to be about 24 hours:

                  20220324_145522.jpg

                  I didn’t like all thar room in the jar, so I went and picked a bunch of kale that I chopped, salted, rinsed, and added to that mix. It still didn’t fill up the jar, but it got closer (and it came out pretty tasty!) I forgot the photo, though.

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                  calldoctoday
                  Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #24

                  TexLaw That looks great! I have never tried Kimchi yet, but would like to. Interesting how you used Kale. We have plenty of that in the garden now.

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                  • C calldoctoday

                    TexLaw That looks great! I have never tried Kimchi yet, but would like to. Interesting how you used Kale. We have plenty of that in the garden now.

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                    #25

                    calldoctoday I figured it could only be a small mistake, so I gave it a whirl. It’s a close cousin to Napa cabbage, after all.

                    My largest concern was that it would be too tough, but it’s fine. In fact, I rather enjoy the additional texture, so I’ll likely continue adding kale.

                    I did salt and rinse it the same way I did the cabbage, but I don’t know that did much–very little liquid came out. What was more important was “massaging” it to tenderize it after I had chopped it up. It’s lacinto kale, so it’s especially tough (but tasty!)

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                    • TexLawT TexLaw

                      Y’all got me up out of my chair and in the kitchen to make some kimchi. I had a jar of paste already put away in the fridge, so easy enough. I was absolutely wrong about making only a 5-pound batch, though. I bought two heads of cabbage that totaled out to about 6 pounds and, as you will see below, I had plenty of room to make a 10-pound batch. I need to remember that!

                      Cabbage chopped, salted, and ready to sit for 90 minutes (mixing up every 30 minutes):

                      20220324_130610.jpg

                      Cabbage after salting, rinsing, and draining. Plus, the other goodies–the paste, a couple of grated carrots, chopped green onion, and extra freshly grated ginger:

                      20220324_144151.jpg

                      All mixed up:

                      20220324_144910.jpg

                      And set aside to ferment for what turned out to be about 24 hours:

                      20220324_145522.jpg

                      I didn’t like all thar room in the jar, so I went and picked a bunch of kale that I chopped, salted, rinsed, and added to that mix. It still didn’t fill up the jar, but it got closer (and it came out pretty tasty!) I forgot the photo, though.

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                      #26

                      TexLaw that’s a picture of beauty right there.

                      “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                      • TexLawT TexLaw

                        calldoctoday I figured it could only be a small mistake, so I gave it a whirl. It’s a close cousin to Napa cabbage, after all.

                        My largest concern was that it would be too tough, but it’s fine. In fact, I rather enjoy the additional texture, so I’ll likely continue adding kale.

                        I did salt and rinse it the same way I did the cabbage, but I don’t know that did much–very little liquid came out. What was more important was “massaging” it to tenderize it after I had chopped it up. It’s lacinto kale, so it’s especially tough (but tasty!)

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                        wrote on last edited by Denny O
                        #27

                        TexLaw What kind of cabbage is that in the bowl, Napa Cabbage? Then you added a Kale that is a close cousin to Napa cabbage?

                        Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                        I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                        Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                          Denny O
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                          #28

                          I’ve got a question.

                          How do all of you put 10 pounds of cabbage, 3 nice large heads into two half gallon jars?

                          Ya, OK you all got me. I finally got it done tonight.

                          Because I stomp all 10 pounds at one time and fill into the 2 jars to ferment for 4 weeks, Can I add the caraway and the mustard seeds after I divvy them into quart jars to store?

                          Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                          I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                          Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                          • TexLawT TexLaw

                            Y’all got me up out of my chair and in the kitchen to make some kimchi. I had a jar of paste already put away in the fridge, so easy enough. I was absolutely wrong about making only a 5-pound batch, though. I bought two heads of cabbage that totaled out to about 6 pounds and, as you will see below, I had plenty of room to make a 10-pound batch. I need to remember that!

                            Cabbage chopped, salted, and ready to sit for 90 minutes (mixing up every 30 minutes):

                            20220324_130610.jpg

                            Cabbage after salting, rinsing, and draining. Plus, the other goodies–the paste, a couple of grated carrots, chopped green onion, and extra freshly grated ginger:

                            20220324_144151.jpg

                            All mixed up:

                            20220324_144910.jpg

                            And set aside to ferment for what turned out to be about 24 hours:

                            20220324_145522.jpg

                            I didn’t like all thar room in the jar, so I went and picked a bunch of kale that I chopped, salted, rinsed, and added to that mix. It still didn’t fill up the jar, but it got closer (and it came out pretty tasty!) I forgot the photo, though.

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                            Bob Stehlik
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #29

                            TexLaw That looks awesome!! Gotta make some soon.

                            Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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                            • TexLawT TexLaw

                              Y’all got me up out of my chair and in the kitchen to make some kimchi. I had a jar of paste already put away in the fridge, so easy enough. I was absolutely wrong about making only a 5-pound batch, though. I bought two heads of cabbage that totaled out to about 6 pounds and, as you will see below, I had plenty of room to make a 10-pound batch. I need to remember that!

                              Cabbage chopped, salted, and ready to sit for 90 minutes (mixing up every 30 minutes):

                              20220324_130610.jpg

                              Cabbage after salting, rinsing, and draining. Plus, the other goodies–the paste, a couple of grated carrots, chopped green onion, and extra freshly grated ginger:

                              20220324_144151.jpg

                              All mixed up:

                              20220324_144910.jpg

                              And set aside to ferment for what turned out to be about 24 hours:

                              20220324_145522.jpg

                              I didn’t like all thar room in the jar, so I went and picked a bunch of kale that I chopped, salted, rinsed, and added to that mix. It still didn’t fill up the jar, but it got closer (and it came out pretty tasty!) I forgot the photo, though.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #30

                              TexLaw I couldn’t tell from the pictures. Are you able to get daikon radishes? If so do you use them? I have trouble finding them and didn’t have any luck growing them last year. They all went to tops and bolted.

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                              • Denny OD Denny O

                                TexLaw What kind of cabbage is that in the bowl, Napa Cabbage? Then you added a Kale that is a close cousin to Napa cabbage?

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                                #31

                                @dennyo-s Yes, that’s Napa cabbage in the bowl. I added the kale later on and didn’t get a picture.

                                If I use kale in the future, it’ll go in with the Napa cabbage. The reason it went in later this time was because it was an afterthought.

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                                • Denny OD Denny O

                                  I’ve got a question.

                                  How do all of you put 10 pounds of cabbage, 3 nice large heads into two half gallon jars?

                                  Ya, OK you all got me. I finally got it done tonight.

                                  Because I stomp all 10 pounds at one time and fill into the 2 jars to ferment for 4 weeks, Can I add the caraway and the mustard seeds after I divvy them into quart jars to store?

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                                  #32

                                  @dennyo-s said in Kraut:

                                  Because I stomp all 10 pounds at one time and fill into the 2 jars to ferment for 4 weeks, Can I add the caraway and the mustard seeds after I divvy them into quart jars to store?

                                  You could do that, but I’d rather add the seeds when I stomp the cabbage. It all mixes up a bit when I do that, anyhow, so it would be some extra effort to go back and mix in the seeds later.

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                                  • wdalyW wdaly

                                    TexLaw I couldn’t tell from the pictures. Are you able to get daikon radishes? If so do you use them? I have trouble finding them and didn’t have any luck growing them last year. They all went to tops and bolted.

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                                    #33

                                    wdaly I didn’t add any daikon to this batch, but I can easily get them around here. We have Asian groceries all over the place.

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                                      TexLaw

                                      In My part of the great USA, I always have better result growing brassica as a fall plant. Daikon and Napa cabbage bolts if I do a spring planting. Great for seed collection but not so good for the table.

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                                        TexLaw

                                        In My part of the great USA, I always have better result growing brassica as a fall plant. Daikon and Napa cabbage bolts if I do a spring planting. Great for seed collection but not so good for the table.

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                                        sheleyp1 I always expect the same thing around here, but I have these incredible lacinato kale plants that both flourishe through the Summer without bolting but also have survived multiple freezes (including last year’s whopper). These dadgum things are over 2 years old and show no sign of slowing down.

                                        20220324_162901.jpg

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                                          Now I see how you were able to make up the difference in the kimchi. Great looking plants! Here the worms would have a field day. Wonder how strait Kale kimchi would taste?

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