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  • samspadeS samspade

    bocephus ok second batch is going in today. Guess if it’s a procedure I will correct it by stopping at 160. If it’s a prep issue I’ll fix it next time. Couldnt wait here is the product. It tasted good but it seems wet. Never made one before so if that’s not good any advise. Screenshot_20220213-142433_Gallery.jpg

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    samspade said in Grind and hold.:

    bocephus ok second batch is going in today. Guess if it’s a procedure I will correct it by stopping at 160. If it’s a prep issue I’ll fix it next time. Couldnt wait here is the product. It tasted good but it seems wet. Never made one before so if that’s not good any advise. Screenshot_20220213-142433_Gallery.jpg

    Don’t worry about the moistness. Let hang and dry out a bit. Personally, I’d rather have it a bit moist rather than dry and chewy, it’s just a personal preference. No rules here. Do what works for you.

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      samspade said in Grind and hold.:

      bocephus ok second batch is going in today. Guess if it’s a procedure I will correct it by stopping at 160. If it’s a prep issue I’ll fix it next time. Couldnt wait here is the product. It tasted good but it seems wet. Never made one before so if that’s not good any advise. Screenshot_20220213-142433_Gallery.jpg

      Don’t worry about the moistness. Let hang and dry out a bit. Personally, I’d rather have it a bit moist rather than dry and chewy, it’s just a personal preference. No rules here. Do what works for you.

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      samspade
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      PapaSop bocephus thanks. I guess it’s ok. Flavors good so I’m happy. I’ll try letting them hang in the garage today see what happens. Definitely taking this batch to 160. What about a dehydrator either as the first 2 hours or after the ice bath and bloom rest?

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        samspade
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        I know… I’ll call them "Artisan " seems to work on just about anything. Lol

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        • samspadeS samspade

          PapaSop bocephus thanks. I guess it’s ok. Flavors good so I’m happy. I’ll try letting them hang in the garage today see what happens. Definitely taking this batch to 160. What about a dehydrator either as the first 2 hours or after the ice bath and bloom rest?

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          samspade said in Grind and hold.:

          PapaSop bocephus thanks. I guess it’s ok. Flavors good so I’m happy. I’ll try letting them hang in the garage today see what happens. Definitely taking this batch to 160. What about a dehydrator either as the first 2 hours or after the ice bath and bloom rest?

          If your in a good temperature range, let them hang overnight. Will dry and bloom a bit.

          Your pics looks like you have a really good finish on these. Well done! 👍👏

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          • samspadeS samspade

            bocephus ok second batch is going in today. Guess if it’s a procedure I will correct it by stopping at 160. If it’s a prep issue I’ll fix it next time. Couldnt wait here is the product. It tasted good but it seems wet. Never made one before so if that’s not good any advise. Screenshot_20220213-142433_Gallery.jpg

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            bocephus
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            samspade They look pretty good and if you are happy with the way they taste, I would call it a success. I do think letting them bloom will help with the moisture.

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            • samspadeS samspade

              bocephus ok second batch is going in today. Guess if it’s a procedure I will correct it by stopping at 160. If it’s a prep issue I’ll fix it next time. Couldnt wait here is the product. It tasted good but it seems wet. Never made one before so if that’s not good any advise. Screenshot_20220213-142433_Gallery.jpg

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              cdavis
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              samspade they look great to me. Congrats 👍 and enjoy.

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              • B bocephus

                samspade IT temp should be 160 degrees.

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                GWG8541
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                wrote on last edited by GWG8541
                #29

                bocephus samspade your IT is a little high. You may have a little fat out issue, which is what you were seeing in water. I have had water look like what you have described color wise, but the oil would be fat. I’ve never had a issue with oil/fat in the water. It doesn’t take long to get to 160. They should still be edible, I have accidentally ran a batch over 170 and they tasted great, just not as pretty.

                “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                • samspadeS samspade

                  bocephus ok second batch is going in today. Guess if it’s a procedure I will correct it by stopping at 160. If it’s a prep issue I’ll fix it next time. Couldnt wait here is the product. It tasted good but it seems wet. Never made one before so if that’s not good any advise. Screenshot_20220213-142433_Gallery.jpg

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                  GWG8541
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                  samspade and if you don’t want them, I’ll send my address.

                  “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                  • GWG8541G GWG8541

                    samspade and if you don’t want them, I’ll send my address.

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                    #31

                    GWG8541 said in Grind and hold.:

                    samspade and if you don’t want them, I’ll send my address.

                    I agree, even the not so perfect looking sausages need loving too! Little cheese and cracker and I bet they will taste great.

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                      Yep they taste good. I used half lb goat pepper and one lb cheddar. I think I might have over done the water. My last 15 lb are in the ice bath. Pics to follow.

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                        #33

                        Thanks for all the support. Been here a year and I’m making products I’m proud of. Here is the second batch of the 25 lb weekend.Screenshot_20220214-034003_Gallery.jpg

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                        • samspadeS samspade

                          Jamieson22 yeah had the sous vide set up at 176 for when it hit 140. This thing is great. 140 to 175 in under an hour.

                          Question. When I pulled from the smoker the casings felt firm and had little signs of wrinkling. After sous vide they were pretty wrinkled but still felt firm. None of the casings split or opened but the water looked like I had cooked hotdogs. Just a little oily on top. It was 50/50 burger and pork with 1.5 lbs high temp cheese and encapsulated citric. Good stepping cook schedule to 140. Then into the bath to 175.
                          Did I do something wrong or is wrinkling normal?Screenshot_20220213-134435_Gallery.jpg

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                          samspade said in Grind and hold.:

                          Jamieson22 yeah had the sous vide set up at 176 for when it hit 140. This thing is great. 140 to 175 in under an hour.

                          Question. When I pulled from the smoker the casings felt firm and had little signs of wrinkling. After sous vide they were pretty wrinkled but still felt firm. None of the casings split or opened but the water looked like I had cooked hotdogs. Just a little oily on top. It was 50/50 burger and pork with 1.5 lbs high temp cheese and encapsulated citric. Good stepping cook schedule to 140. Then into the bath to 175.

                          Think you got lots of answers but 175F is too high. Set the water to the temp you want and let it equalize.

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                          • Jamieson22J Jamieson22

                            samspade said in Grind and hold.:

                            Jamieson22 yeah had the sous vide set up at 176 for when it hit 140. This thing is great. 140 to 175 in under an hour.

                            Question. When I pulled from the smoker the casings felt firm and had little signs of wrinkling. After sous vide they were pretty wrinkled but still felt firm. None of the casings split or opened but the water looked like I had cooked hotdogs. Just a little oily on top. It was 50/50 burger and pork with 1.5 lbs high temp cheese and encapsulated citric. Good stepping cook schedule to 140. Then into the bath to 175.

                            Think you got lots of answers but 175F is too high. Set the water to the temp you want and let it equalize.

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                            samspade
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                            #35

                            Jamieson22 thank you. Yes I think;

                            1. I had to much water in the batch.
                            2. Went to high at the end.

                            The second batch went to 160 and the cases were much tighter. But still had tiny amount of liquid glistining from the meat. ( was going to say ozing, but glistening sound better.)

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                            • samspadeS samspade

                              Jamieson22 thank you. Yes I think;

                              1. I had to much water in the batch.
                              2. Went to high at the end.

                              The second batch went to 160 and the cases were much tighter. But still had tiny amount of liquid glistining from the meat. ( was going to say ozing, but glistening sound better.)

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                              cdavis
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                              samspade they look great and yes glistening sounds much better 😀

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                                #37

                                samspade Know I am late to the game but yes, I’ve done this a time or two as well when the day gets out of hand for me. Also, looks great!

                                Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                                  samspade Know I am late to the game but yes, I’ve done this a time or two as well when the day gets out of hand for me. Also, looks great!

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                                  #38

                                  Jonathon thank you sir. I posted on FB and got the usual trolls. “To much shrinkage” “never sous vide or water pan” etc. NOT HERE. Everyone was kind and comments were helpful not hurtful. Thanks for running a top notch site.
                                  Oh by the way… everyone at my job site love em so I’ll keep learning from here.

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                                  • samspadeS samspade

                                    Jonathon thank you sir. I posted on FB and got the usual trolls. “To much shrinkage” “never sous vide or water pan” etc. NOT HERE. Everyone was kind and comments were helpful not hurtful. Thanks for running a top notch site.
                                    Oh by the way… everyone at my job site love em so I’ll keep learning from here.

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                                    samspade FB is another “F” word just like the word forum IMO

                                    hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                      samspade FB and sadly now Instagram as well are basically useless for conversations (Twitter has been useless for years) because the algorithm has driven people to only want to disagree or point out when they think someone is wrong! I was chatting with a Meatgistics user the other day and I said that ironically Social Media is driving us apart when it should have been a tool to bring us together. I think Meatgistics is an example of what happens when you let people choose what they see. Just unread posts or surf random. No algorithm trying to drive increased engagement and therefore rewarding negative behavior and what do we get? 95%+ (or more?) positive interactions.

                                      Anyway, just pointing out that a decent amount of society’s problems could be cured by shutting off the algorithms for social media.

                                      Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                                      • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                        samspade FB and sadly now Instagram as well are basically useless for conversations (Twitter has been useless for years) because the algorithm has driven people to only want to disagree or point out when they think someone is wrong! I was chatting with a Meatgistics user the other day and I said that ironically Social Media is driving us apart when it should have been a tool to bring us together. I think Meatgistics is an example of what happens when you let people choose what they see. Just unread posts or surf random. No algorithm trying to drive increased engagement and therefore rewarding negative behavior and what do we get? 95%+ (or more?) positive interactions.

                                        Anyway, just pointing out that a decent amount of society’s problems could be cured by shutting off the algorithms for social media.

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                                        Jonathon You couldn’t have said that any better!

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                                        • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                          samspade FB and sadly now Instagram as well are basically useless for conversations (Twitter has been useless for years) because the algorithm has driven people to only want to disagree or point out when they think someone is wrong! I was chatting with a Meatgistics user the other day and I said that ironically Social Media is driving us apart when it should have been a tool to bring us together. I think Meatgistics is an example of what happens when you let people choose what they see. Just unread posts or surf random. No algorithm trying to drive increased engagement and therefore rewarding negative behavior and what do we get? 95%+ (or more?) positive interactions.

                                          Anyway, just pointing out that a decent amount of society’s problems could be cured by shutting off the algorithms for social media.

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                                          kyle
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                                          Jonathon I think what helps Meatgistics also is we are a community talking about a specific topic and when members cross the line into a topic that will cause arguments, other members normally tell them to take it to another site. I have said it before and I think others feel the same way, I would leave if this place turned into a FB or whatever the other garbage sites are.

                                          hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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