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  • B bocephus

    GWG8541 That brought back memories of my mom making peanut brittle for Christmas. She also used the pot of a pressure cooker and had a very heavy cake pan she poured it on to set. My younger sister has the pan and every time I see it I remember the peanut brittle and homemade caramel rolls she made in it. Thanks for bringing back those memories. I think it is wonderful you are carrying on your family tradition.

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    bocephus my Mom also made all kind of other confections including Caramels. I used to get a zip lock bag before leaving for deer hunting with Dad every year. In fact, I had a big smile and for some reason watery eyes when PapaSop talked about getting those cookies from his Mom before hunting this year.
    I try making caramels, but need more practice. It seems I’m either making Werther’s hard candy or a thick caramel syrup. It’s amazing how delicate candy making processes are.
    At first I was hesitant about posting this. I know how hard the holidays can be for some people, but my intent was to see how many of us share similar traditions and to hopefully remember some of those we have lost with happy memories this season. The best part of getting together yesterday was when my oldest son was getting ready to leave. He is a full time Firefighter/Paramedic, he thanked me for getting everyone together and said “it was great having everyone together today, thanks for doing it. Grandma would have loved it”. That alone made the day for me. I hope and pray if nothing else, I have instilled the importance of family and friends to my kids. I grew up without a lot a of money or possessions, but man was I blessed with great family. We are far from perfect, but I wouldn’t trade it for the world.

    “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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      Mmm, I can remember making peanut brittle as a kid, completely forgot until this post. Teeth can’t handle that anymore!

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      • GWG8541G GWG8541

        One of the holiday traditions my parents started many years ago, was making Peanut Brittle for giving to family and friends. Over the years they perfected their recipe, which was passed on to them from a friend. Each year their giving became more generous and one year they made over 100 bags of Peanut Brittle during the Christmas season, which was over 40 pounds of raw spanish peanuts. Friends they had gifted it to, began asking to buy it to give as gifts. My folks were not in it to make money or run a candy business, so they just told people to pay for the ingredients and they made it for them. Of course Mom and Dad always under estimated the actual cost of the ingredients, and gave away much more than they were paid to make. As they got older, keeping up with that type of volume became a little much for them. I began taking my kids over and helping out. I lost my Mom and Dad both in 2020. Dad was 91 and Mom was 87. A few months after Mom passed, my Dad asked me “do you suppose we could make some Peanut Brittle this year?” I told him sure and meant it whole heartedly. My dad passed away before Christmas. I kept my promise to him. I got together with my wife and sons to make sure we carried on the tradition and Dad’s wishes that year. Everyone in our family had the “recipe”, but you all know the process and “how to” is as important as the ingredients in any recipe. Candy making can be even more unforgiving than meat processing. I was blessed to have spend many days in my parents kitchen making this sugary Peanut delight. Buy the way, this brittle is not hard or sticky if made right. One of my nieces and a nephew asked if I would show them how to make the brittle last year. They helped me and my family carry out Dads wishes to make it last year. This year they asked me at Thanksgiving when we were making it this year. Well today was that day, or should I say the first day. I had my brother and his family together with mine learning and carrying on what Mom and Dad had made into a Christmas tradition. A few years ago my Mom put together a cook book for all of her kids and grandkids with a photo of them making Peanut Brittle one of the many years. It’s the best cookbook I own and the first picture I’m attaching is of them on the cover doing what they loved doing.
        20211212_214841.jpg
        Making brittle today to send out of state to family.
        20211212_215040.jpg
        20211212_195441.jpg
        20211212_195629.jpg
        The pot is an old pressure cooker my Mom used to make brittle and other candies. The spoon was hers also.
        20211212_195654.jpg 20211212_195718.jpg 20211212_195916.jpg
        So if you have a certain candy you make or other great cooking tradition you have during this holiday season, post it proudly. Merry Christmas!

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        ND Mike
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        GWG8541 what a great post. I love when people carry on a tradition and keep it alive by passing it down. This post made me smile. My Grandma was a baker and she made a lot of candy too. My aunt actually sat down with my Grandma and asked her to write out some of her most cherished recipes. She did everything from memory and feel. My aunt took these recipes and made a cook book too. My brother’s wife went to my Grandma’s a few times to learn how to make her buns. They were the most perfect bun you could find. She has mastered it almost as well as Grandma’s. It warms my heart when families care enough to make sure a good tradition gets passed down. Man, I miss my all my Grandparents.

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        • GWG8541G GWG8541

          bocephus my Mom also made all kind of other confections including Caramels. I used to get a zip lock bag before leaving for deer hunting with Dad every year. In fact, I had a big smile and for some reason watery eyes when PapaSop talked about getting those cookies from his Mom before hunting this year.
          I try making caramels, but need more practice. It seems I’m either making Werther’s hard candy or a thick caramel syrup. It’s amazing how delicate candy making processes are.
          At first I was hesitant about posting this. I know how hard the holidays can be for some people, but my intent was to see how many of us share similar traditions and to hopefully remember some of those we have lost with happy memories this season. The best part of getting together yesterday was when my oldest son was getting ready to leave. He is a full time Firefighter/Paramedic, he thanked me for getting everyone together and said “it was great having everyone together today, thanks for doing it. Grandma would have loved it”. That alone made the day for me. I hope and pray if nothing else, I have instilled the importance of family and friends to my kids. I grew up without a lot a of money or possessions, but man was I blessed with great family. We are far from perfect, but I wouldn’t trade it for the world.

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          bocephus
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          #15

          GWG8541 It is always good to get family together, my family is all spread out. We all try to get back together in the summer in MN and my brothers and I get together in November for deer hunting, these are special times.

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            My wife made candy the first year we moved into our house to meet all the neighbors. It was the last year she made candy, it is for sure a labor of love. We just don’t have the time to commit to making it.

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            • ND MikeN ND Mike

              GWG8541 what a great post. I love when people carry on a tradition and keep it alive by passing it down. This post made me smile. My Grandma was a baker and she made a lot of candy too. My aunt actually sat down with my Grandma and asked her to write out some of her most cherished recipes. She did everything from memory and feel. My aunt took these recipes and made a cook book too. My brother’s wife went to my Grandma’s a few times to learn how to make her buns. They were the most perfect bun you could find. She has mastered it almost as well as Grandma’s. It warms my heart when families care enough to make sure a good tradition gets passed down. Man, I miss my all my Grandparents.

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              ND Mike My wife used to get with my mom before Christmas and learned the recipes for all the cookies and candy my mom made, now she makes all the things my mom made and has added to it. She tells people she had to get married to me to get my Grandmother’s sugar cookie recipe. She would always make a bunch of stuff and give it away to friends and she and I would take big trays into work. I am now retired and with COVID she can’t take things in to work, but there are still friends to bake for so she will be happy.

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                Before my dad passed away, my folks would make homemade chocolate covered cherries for Christmas. After eating them, store bought ones aren’t very good

                hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                • GWG8541G GWG8541

                  One of the holiday traditions my parents started many years ago, was making Peanut Brittle for giving to family and friends. Over the years they perfected their recipe, which was passed on to them from a friend. Each year their giving became more generous and one year they made over 100 bags of Peanut Brittle during the Christmas season, which was over 40 pounds of raw spanish peanuts. Friends they had gifted it to, began asking to buy it to give as gifts. My folks were not in it to make money or run a candy business, so they just told people to pay for the ingredients and they made it for them. Of course Mom and Dad always under estimated the actual cost of the ingredients, and gave away much more than they were paid to make. As they got older, keeping up with that type of volume became a little much for them. I began taking my kids over and helping out. I lost my Mom and Dad both in 2020. Dad was 91 and Mom was 87. A few months after Mom passed, my Dad asked me “do you suppose we could make some Peanut Brittle this year?” I told him sure and meant it whole heartedly. My dad passed away before Christmas. I kept my promise to him. I got together with my wife and sons to make sure we carried on the tradition and Dad’s wishes that year. Everyone in our family had the “recipe”, but you all know the process and “how to” is as important as the ingredients in any recipe. Candy making can be even more unforgiving than meat processing. I was blessed to have spend many days in my parents kitchen making this sugary Peanut delight. Buy the way, this brittle is not hard or sticky if made right. One of my nieces and a nephew asked if I would show them how to make the brittle last year. They helped me and my family carry out Dads wishes to make it last year. This year they asked me at Thanksgiving when we were making it this year. Well today was that day, or should I say the first day. I had my brother and his family together with mine learning and carrying on what Mom and Dad had made into a Christmas tradition. A few years ago my Mom put together a cook book for all of her kids and grandkids with a photo of them making Peanut Brittle one of the many years. It’s the best cookbook I own and the first picture I’m attaching is of them on the cover doing what they loved doing.
                  20211212_214841.jpg
                  Making brittle today to send out of state to family.
                  20211212_215040.jpg
                  20211212_195441.jpg
                  20211212_195629.jpg
                  The pot is an old pressure cooker my Mom used to make brittle and other candies. The spoon was hers also.
                  20211212_195654.jpg 20211212_195718.jpg 20211212_195916.jpg
                  So if you have a certain candy you make or other great cooking tradition you have during this holiday season, post it proudly. Merry Christmas!

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                  #19

                  GWG8541 I can’t tell you how much this post meant to me. For years I’ve made Christmas candy with my Mom. Caramels, toffee, Cherry mash, peanut brittle, and many kinds of fudge. She always told me you could only make the toffee in one pan that she used. I lost Mom on November 30th. This will be a hard Christmas but for my kids and grandkids sake, we will have Christmas candy and toast the woman who taught me that it’s all right for men to cook.

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                  • GWG8541G GWG8541

                    One of the holiday traditions my parents started many years ago, was making Peanut Brittle for giving to family and friends. Over the years they perfected their recipe, which was passed on to them from a friend. Each year their giving became more generous and one year they made over 100 bags of Peanut Brittle during the Christmas season, which was over 40 pounds of raw spanish peanuts. Friends they had gifted it to, began asking to buy it to give as gifts. My folks were not in it to make money or run a candy business, so they just told people to pay for the ingredients and they made it for them. Of course Mom and Dad always under estimated the actual cost of the ingredients, and gave away much more than they were paid to make. As they got older, keeping up with that type of volume became a little much for them. I began taking my kids over and helping out. I lost my Mom and Dad both in 2020. Dad was 91 and Mom was 87. A few months after Mom passed, my Dad asked me “do you suppose we could make some Peanut Brittle this year?” I told him sure and meant it whole heartedly. My dad passed away before Christmas. I kept my promise to him. I got together with my wife and sons to make sure we carried on the tradition and Dad’s wishes that year. Everyone in our family had the “recipe”, but you all know the process and “how to” is as important as the ingredients in any recipe. Candy making can be even more unforgiving than meat processing. I was blessed to have spend many days in my parents kitchen making this sugary Peanut delight. Buy the way, this brittle is not hard or sticky if made right. One of my nieces and a nephew asked if I would show them how to make the brittle last year. They helped me and my family carry out Dads wishes to make it last year. This year they asked me at Thanksgiving when we were making it this year. Well today was that day, or should I say the first day. I had my brother and his family together with mine learning and carrying on what Mom and Dad had made into a Christmas tradition. A few years ago my Mom put together a cook book for all of her kids and grandkids with a photo of them making Peanut Brittle one of the many years. It’s the best cookbook I own and the first picture I’m attaching is of them on the cover doing what they loved doing.
                    20211212_214841.jpg
                    Making brittle today to send out of state to family.
                    20211212_215040.jpg
                    20211212_195441.jpg
                    20211212_195629.jpg
                    The pot is an old pressure cooker my Mom used to make brittle and other candies. The spoon was hers also.
                    20211212_195654.jpg 20211212_195718.jpg 20211212_195916.jpg
                    So if you have a certain candy you make or other great cooking tradition you have during this holiday season, post it proudly. Merry Christmas!

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                    YooperDog
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                    GWG8541 Great tradition to pass along. Ours was making Polish sausage and a special dinner. It always brings back memories.

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                    • wdalyW wdaly

                      GWG8541 I can’t tell you how much this post meant to me. For years I’ve made Christmas candy with my Mom. Caramels, toffee, Cherry mash, peanut brittle, and many kinds of fudge. She always told me you could only make the toffee in one pan that she used. I lost Mom on November 30th. This will be a hard Christmas but for my kids and grandkids sake, we will have Christmas candy and toast the woman who taught me that it’s all right for men to cook.

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                      wdaly very sorry you lost your mom, especially around the holidays. I’m sure you will make her proud carrying on the things she loved to do. I hope you have the best Christmas possible

                      hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                      • B bocephus

                        ND Mike My wife used to get with my mom before Christmas and learned the recipes for all the cookies and candy my mom made, now she makes all the things my mom made and has added to it. She tells people she had to get married to me to get my Grandmother’s sugar cookie recipe. She would always make a bunch of stuff and give it away to friends and she and I would take big trays into work. I am now retired and with COVID she can’t take things in to work, but there are still friends to bake for so she will be happy.

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                        ND Mike
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                        bocephus that sounds like my Grandma. Bake a lot of stuff to give away. I never did see her eat much of her own stuff.

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                        • wdalyW wdaly

                          GWG8541 I can’t tell you how much this post meant to me. For years I’ve made Christmas candy with my Mom. Caramels, toffee, Cherry mash, peanut brittle, and many kinds of fudge. She always told me you could only make the toffee in one pan that she used. I lost Mom on November 30th. This will be a hard Christmas but for my kids and grandkids sake, we will have Christmas candy and toast the woman who taught me that it’s all right for men to cook.

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                          wdaly Our condolences on your loss of your mother, it’s tough on us on. They were the first women in our lives and cared for us as well as passing on their knowledge for the future generations. I know I still miss the conversations, but also know she passed a lot of experience on to me.

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                          • GWG8541G GWG8541

                            One of the holiday traditions my parents started many years ago, was making Peanut Brittle for giving to family and friends. Over the years they perfected their recipe, which was passed on to them from a friend. Each year their giving became more generous and one year they made over 100 bags of Peanut Brittle during the Christmas season, which was over 40 pounds of raw spanish peanuts. Friends they had gifted it to, began asking to buy it to give as gifts. My folks were not in it to make money or run a candy business, so they just told people to pay for the ingredients and they made it for them. Of course Mom and Dad always under estimated the actual cost of the ingredients, and gave away much more than they were paid to make. As they got older, keeping up with that type of volume became a little much for them. I began taking my kids over and helping out. I lost my Mom and Dad both in 2020. Dad was 91 and Mom was 87. A few months after Mom passed, my Dad asked me “do you suppose we could make some Peanut Brittle this year?” I told him sure and meant it whole heartedly. My dad passed away before Christmas. I kept my promise to him. I got together with my wife and sons to make sure we carried on the tradition and Dad’s wishes that year. Everyone in our family had the “recipe”, but you all know the process and “how to” is as important as the ingredients in any recipe. Candy making can be even more unforgiving than meat processing. I was blessed to have spend many days in my parents kitchen making this sugary Peanut delight. Buy the way, this brittle is not hard or sticky if made right. One of my nieces and a nephew asked if I would show them how to make the brittle last year. They helped me and my family carry out Dads wishes to make it last year. This year they asked me at Thanksgiving when we were making it this year. Well today was that day, or should I say the first day. I had my brother and his family together with mine learning and carrying on what Mom and Dad had made into a Christmas tradition. A few years ago my Mom put together a cook book for all of her kids and grandkids with a photo of them making Peanut Brittle one of the many years. It’s the best cookbook I own and the first picture I’m attaching is of them on the cover doing what they loved doing.
                            20211212_214841.jpg
                            Making brittle today to send out of state to family.
                            20211212_215040.jpg
                            20211212_195441.jpg
                            20211212_195629.jpg
                            The pot is an old pressure cooker my Mom used to make brittle and other candies. The spoon was hers also.
                            20211212_195654.jpg 20211212_195718.jpg 20211212_195916.jpg
                            So if you have a certain candy you make or other great cooking tradition you have during this holiday season, post it proudly. Merry Christmas!

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                            #24

                            GWG8541 We are sorry to hear that you lost both your Mom & Dad last year. That is too much too soon. That will sit with you forever, especially this time of year, but I know they are smiling down upon you. Things will never be the same. You deserve a triple thumbs up though! I used to have much more time & of course energy, & I cannot figure out the loss of either or maybe it is the combination of it all that creates what it is. I used to make a lot of them every year from divinity to brittle to pralines. I don’t make much of any now, but look at me, I am fatter than a Show Dog, so apparently I have had my fair share.

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                              I am sorry to hear about your parents, though I love how you are keeping the tradition going. I have been making “Hickory Farms-ish” baskets for friends and family for the past several years that include summer sausage, kielbasa, smoked cheese, smoked almonds (3 flavors), homemade mustard, fudge, and a random candy (whatever I feel like making - last year it was a cayenne caramel on a bacon-pretzel crust). After reading some of these posts, maybe I should limit my scope a little. lol I too, but them in a cookbook for the kids so maybe they will pick this up too (or some of the easier recipes). Nothing brings joy more than homemade goodies! Thank you for such a great post.

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                              • ND MikeN ND Mike

                                bocephus that sounds like my Grandma. Bake a lot of stuff to give away. I never did see her eat much of her own stuff.

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                                ND Mike I have to have my wife give it away or I would eat it all, dang sweet tooth.

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                                • GWG8541G GWG8541

                                  bocephus my Mom also made all kind of other confections including Caramels. I used to get a zip lock bag before leaving for deer hunting with Dad every year. In fact, I had a big smile and for some reason watery eyes when PapaSop talked about getting those cookies from his Mom before hunting this year.
                                  I try making caramels, but need more practice. It seems I’m either making Werther’s hard candy or a thick caramel syrup. It’s amazing how delicate candy making processes are.
                                  At first I was hesitant about posting this. I know how hard the holidays can be for some people, but my intent was to see how many of us share similar traditions and to hopefully remember some of those we have lost with happy memories this season. The best part of getting together yesterday was when my oldest son was getting ready to leave. He is a full time Firefighter/Paramedic, he thanked me for getting everyone together and said “it was great having everyone together today, thanks for doing it. Grandma would have loved it”. That alone made the day for me. I hope and pray if nothing else, I have instilled the importance of family and friends to my kids. I grew up without a lot a of money or possessions, but man was I blessed with great family. We are far from perfect, but I wouldn’t trade it for the world.

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                                  GWG8541 that was perfectly stated. Thank you for the post and may God bless you and your family 👪. Thanks again I needed that today.

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                                  • B bocephus

                                    ND Mike I have to have my wife give it away or I would eat it all, dang sweet tooth.

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                                    bocephus hahahaha!

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                                    • C calldoctoday

                                      GWG8541 We are sorry to hear that you lost both your Mom & Dad last year. That is too much too soon. That will sit with you forever, especially this time of year, but I know they are smiling down upon you. Things will never be the same. You deserve a triple thumbs up though! I used to have much more time & of course energy, & I cannot figure out the loss of either or maybe it is the combination of it all that creates what it is. I used to make a lot of them every year from divinity to brittle to pralines. I don’t make much of any now, but look at me, I am fatter than a Show Dog, so apparently I have had my fair share.

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                                      calldoctoday my waistline is definitely feeling it this year.

                                      “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                                      • ND MikeN ND Mike

                                        GWG8541 what a great post. I love when people carry on a tradition and keep it alive by passing it down. This post made me smile. My Grandma was a baker and she made a lot of candy too. My aunt actually sat down with my Grandma and asked her to write out some of her most cherished recipes. She did everything from memory and feel. My aunt took these recipes and made a cook book too. My brother’s wife went to my Grandma’s a few times to learn how to make her buns. They were the most perfect bun you could find. She has mastered it almost as well as Grandma’s. It warms my heart when families care enough to make sure a good tradition gets passed down. Man, I miss my all my Grandparents.

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                                        ND Mike that is awesome, especially your family keeping those traditions alive.

                                        “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                                        • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

                                          My wife made candy the first year we moved into our house to meet all the neighbors. It was the last year she made candy, it is for sure a labor of love. We just don’t have the time to commit to making it.

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                                          HerbcoFood it is time consuming. It helped to make it a little family get together. I have no clue how my Mom and Dad did as much as they did.

                                          “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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