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    Deepwoodsbutcher
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    I would definitely go with a 12" F. Dick steel. I have several, but would recommend different finishes depending on usage. If you do a lot of boning work, regular or fine cut will be great. If you are mostly slicing or using it on kitchen knives, a fine or ultra fine finish is good. For skinning, I like a fine to ultra fine. If you like an all round steel, my favorite is the F. Dick Multiron steel. It is a regular cut steel combined with a fine steel in one. Light pressure will hone and moderate pressure to realign the blade. You could also look at the square steels if you want two finishes in one steel.

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      bocephus
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      I have been lucky to find some old Dexter Russells at a local flea market, clean them up and been very happy with them. But I don’t think you could go wrong with F. Dick either.

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        I don’t know why but this thread just makes me laugh, and Deepwoodsbutcher calling for a 12" F.Dick steel just had me rolling. Been one of those day. Sorry for the interruption. As they say, β€œcarry on!”

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        • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

          I don’t know why but this thread just makes me laugh, and Deepwoodsbutcher calling for a 12" F.Dick steel just had me rolling. Been one of those day. Sorry for the interruption. As they say, β€œcarry on!”

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          bocephus
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          Dr_Pain We know where your mind is today!

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            We all have to relive Jr. High from time to time.

            Paul

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              Dr_Pain
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              I hope I don’t offend someone with my junior highschool suggestive mindset today. It was just too easy to fall for the trap

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                I hope I don’t offend someone with my junior highschool suggestive mindset today. It was just too easy to fall for the trap

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                Dr_Pain said in Sharpening steel:

                I hope I don’t offend someone with my junior highschool suggestive mindset today. It was just too easy to fall for the trap

                No worries. I was surprised it didn’t censor.

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                • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                  I hope I don’t offend someone with my junior highschool suggestive mindset today. It was just too easy to fall for the trap

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                  bocephus
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                  Dr_Pain I don’t think anyone took offense, just took it in the good humor it was meant to be.

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                    calldoctoday
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                    That was real β€œslick”!

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                      When I was going through my apprenticeship to become a journeyman meat cutter, we had an old retired German meat cutter that would come in every two weeks to sharpen everyone’s knives. It was always in the evening when there would only be one meat cutter in the market boning out all the trim from that days cutting.

                      He had a van outside where he took all the knives to sharpen. He would leave you a 12" steak knife and a 6" straight or curved boning knife to use while he was outside. All you had to do was pick up one of his knives and a steel at the same time while he was loading up the knives to set him off! His arms would start waving and he would yell nein!, nein! don’t ruin my knives! The rest of the yelling was in German, and I was pretty sure he was cursing and questioning my intelligence, genetics, heritage and upbringing.

                      My point is as processhead said a β€œsteel” steel will only straighten a rolled edge. Just like bending a paperclip back and forth the edge will break off and eventually will need to be reground. It makes me cringe when I see a so called β€œchef” on the Food Channel slapping and banging an expensive knife on a steel trying to look cool. Proper honing is an art and shouldn’t be over done. I love ceramic steels, but you better not drop it…

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                      • marzig20M marzig20

                        When I was going through my apprenticeship to become a journeyman meat cutter, we had an old retired German meat cutter that would come in every two weeks to sharpen everyone’s knives. It was always in the evening when there would only be one meat cutter in the market boning out all the trim from that days cutting.

                        He had a van outside where he took all the knives to sharpen. He would leave you a 12" steak knife and a 6" straight or curved boning knife to use while he was outside. All you had to do was pick up one of his knives and a steel at the same time while he was loading up the knives to set him off! His arms would start waving and he would yell nein!, nein! don’t ruin my knives! The rest of the yelling was in German, and I was pretty sure he was cursing and questioning my intelligence, genetics, heritage and upbringing.

                        My point is as processhead said a β€œsteel” steel will only straighten a rolled edge. Just like bending a paperclip back and forth the edge will break off and eventually will need to be reground. It makes me cringe when I see a so called β€œchef” on the Food Channel slapping and banging an expensive knife on a steel trying to look cool. Proper honing is an art and shouldn’t be over done. I love ceramic steels, but you better not drop it…

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                        bocephus
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                        marzig20 I agree a steel only realigns the edge and should be used that way, although when deboning I use mine quite often because of hitting bone.

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                          marzig20 I agree a steel only realigns the edge and should be used that way, although when deboning I use mine quite often because of hitting bone.

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                          marzig20
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                          #17

                          bocephus very true! Bone contact is the hardest thing on the edge of a knife and honing cannot be avoided.

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                            Tex_77
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                            I really like this steel https://www.waltonsinc.com/11in-f-dick-multicut-flat-steel

                            Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                              I really like this steel https://www.waltonsinc.com/11in-f-dick-multicut-flat-steel

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                              Dr_Pain
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                              Tex_77 Sheesh, never knew those steel were so πŸ’°πŸ€―πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«

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                                Ya steels are apparently pretty pricey for higher end ones.

                                Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                                • Dr_PainD Dr_Pain

                                  Tex_77 Sheesh, never knew those steel were so πŸ’°πŸ€―πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«

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                                  bocephus
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                                  Dr_Pain If you take care of them though you will passing them down to the next generation and beyond, just like a quality knife.

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                                    Tex_77 Sheesh, never knew those steel were so πŸ’°πŸ€―πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«

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                                    Dr_Pain An investment for sure, but one that will out live your knives if you take care of it. Working commercially in shops, on kill floors, on farms and in the woods, I’ve put these things through it all. F. Dick steels will stand the test of time.

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                                      Dr_Pain An investment for sure, but one that will out live your knives if you take care of it. Working commercially in shops, on kill floors, on farms and in the woods, I’ve put these things through it all. F. Dick steels will stand the test of time.

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                                      Deepwoodsbutcher If their steels are anything like their stuffer, they are indestructible. I have their 30 pound stuffer; never have to worry about it being difficult to stuff casing.

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                                        Deepwoodsbutcher If their steels are anything like their stuffer, they are indestructible. I have their 30 pound stuffer; never have to worry about it being difficult to stuff casing.

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                                        Chef An F. Dick stuffer would be an awesome piece of kit! They do some good work.

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                                          Chef An F. Dick stuffer would be an awesome piece of kit! They do some good work.

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                                          Deepwoodsbutcher said in Sharpening steel:

                                          Chef An F. Dick stuffer would be an awesome piece of kit! They do some good work.

                                          Occasionally they show up on the used equipment market. I can’t picture myself ponying up for a new one though.

                                          Paul

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