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    If they are giving free tags I take as many as they give me in hopes that it will preserve the future. In hopes that it will keep the people that are brown is down slaughter mentality at limits. But then part of me thinks, well what if I just took tags from a family in need of food that now doesn’t have an opportunity to harvest something? But then I think about it even further and think, well if me or my family is starving I’m taking a meal with a tag or no tag, survival is key. All bow season and first 7 days of gun I strictly wait for a wall hanger, the last two days I harvest my two does for meat and that’s it. Last year opening day of gun I had 42 deer come past. The full 9 days I bet was just over 100, im sure some of those were repeats but nonetheless not worried about getting meat at anytime in my legal hours and quantity I am searching for

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      I can’t imagine being able to invest the time, fuel, and money in deer hunting and have it be more cost effective than buying food at the grocery store for someone who is on limited income.
      I will tell that to anyone who is trying to justify hunting as a way to save money on food, for 99% of hunters, it just doesn’t pencil out.
      Now there may be some cases where a person’s situation makes it cheap and easy to hun, they live on or have access to land nearby and harvest food, they can take off work, or aren’t working and need to feed a family, but I think that is a very small sub-set of all hunters.

      Paul

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        I can’t imagine being able to invest the time, fuel, and money in deer hunting and have it be more cost effective than buying food at the grocery store for someone who is on limited income.
        I will tell that to anyone who is trying to justify hunting as a way to save money on food, for 99% of hunters, it just doesn’t pencil out.
        Now there may be some cases where a person’s situation makes it cheap and easy to hun, they live on or have access to land nearby and harvest food, they can take off work, or aren’t working and need to feed a family, but I think that is a very small sub-set of all hunters.

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        processhead Margaret & I used to be able to do just that & for the most part only eat the venison I shot, the rabbits & chickens we raised, & for the most part, the fish I caught. That was a long time ago, well over 30, though. Before regulations, new laws, license fees, tag fees, even ammunition got out of site & ridiculous. We had a little more land too & the area we were in was not all grown up yet, like it is now. We only shot what we ate & wasted nothing, period. I will not even dare tell you how I took the game on our own property. It was clean & quick. I miss those days, but on the other hand, I might not be all up to it anymore either. I am not sure, even though I prefer to believe I am. So, it can be done, but it is real difficult in these days & times. It is getting difficult for the working man to afford & thus enjoy hunting & fishing like we used to be able to, sadly to say.

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          I can’t imagine being able to invest the time, fuel, and money in deer hunting and have it be more cost effective than buying food at the grocery store for someone who is on limited income.
          I will tell that to anyone who is trying to justify hunting as a way to save money on food, for 99% of hunters, it just doesn’t pencil out.
          Now there may be some cases where a person’s situation makes it cheap and easy to hun, they live on or have access to land nearby and harvest food, they can take off work, or aren’t working and need to feed a family, but I think that is a very small sub-set of all hunters.

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          craigrice
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          processhead that is imho that farmers and not many others are the only ones that can afford & have the right to harvest for crop damage and not need added expenses

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          • processheadP processhead

            I can’t imagine being able to invest the time, fuel, and money in deer hunting and have it be more cost effective than buying food at the grocery store for someone who is on limited income.
            I will tell that to anyone who is trying to justify hunting as a way to save money on food, for 99% of hunters, it just doesn’t pencil out.
            Now there may be some cases where a person’s situation makes it cheap and easy to hun, they live on or have access to land nearby and harvest food, they can take off work, or aren’t working and need to feed a family, but I think that is a very small sub-set of all hunters.

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            kyle
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            processhead said in Fall of the year:

            I can’t imagine being able to invest the time, fuel, and money in deer hunting and have it be more cost effective than buying food at the grocery store for someone who is on limited income.
            I will tell that to anyone who is trying to justify hunting as a way to save money on food, for 99% of hunters, it just doesn’t pencil out.
            Now there may be some cases where a person’s situation makes it cheap and easy to hun, they live on or have access to land nearby and harvest food, they can take off work, or aren’t working and need to feed a family, but I think that is a very small sub-set of all hunters.

            For me it’s all about spending time with family and friends. Things really changed for me when dad passed away going on 2 years ago now. The deer is a bonus that I am grateful for. Property and food plots are expensive but it’s also a great way to spend time with my son and friends in nature.

            hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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              craigrice
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              the art of being self sufficient is something that needs to be passed down

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                #40

                Exactly. I dont shoot or catch my own food. Heck, I dont even have a herb garden. But I know from my younger years how to do it if I had to.

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                  I can’t imagine being able to invest the time, fuel, and money in deer hunting and have it be more cost effective than buying food at the grocery store for someone who is on limited income.
                  I will tell that to anyone who is trying to justify hunting as a way to save money on food, for 99% of hunters, it just doesn’t pencil out.
                  Now there may be some cases where a person’s situation makes it cheap and easy to hun, they live on or have access to land nearby and harvest food, they can take off work, or aren’t working and need to feed a family, but I think that is a very small sub-set of all hunters.

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                  processhead It is not just about the great meat, it is about the friendships made and memories you will have for the rest of your life. I think the same could be said cost wise about home processing, when you look at the investment of time and equipment.

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                    PapaSop said in Fall of the year:

                    Just purchased my gun and bow licenses. One buck plus two free antlerless with each license. Opted out of the free metro tags. Ridiculous. Would never think of taking that many deer!

                    So, with the six of us who hunt this private land we could, in essence, take 36 deer! Not happening. Thank you Wi DNR.

                    Still don’t get the metro tags. Even though this area extends somewhat beyond the city limits is does include it. Pretty sure sure if I crack off a round at one of deer that frequent my street, they’re going to take me to jail. No thanks!

                    I’m just curious if Wisconsin has a Hunter’s Feeding The Hungry program? In Nebraska, if you have harvest more deer than you need, you can donate it to a participating processor and they will turn it into food for the less fortunate.

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                    processhead said in Fall of the year:

                    PapaSop said in Fall of the year:

                    Just purchased my gun and bow licenses. One buck plus two free antlerless with each license. Opted out of the free metro tags. Ridiculous. Would never think of taking that many deer!

                    So, with the six of us who hunt this private land we could, in essence, take 36 deer! Not happening. Thank you Wi DNR.

                    Still don’t get the metro tags. Even though this area extends somewhat beyond the city limits is does include it. Pretty sure sure if I crack off a round at one of deer that frequent my street, they’re going to take me to jail. No thanks!

                    I’m just curious if Wisconsin has a Hunter’s Feeding The Hungry program? In Nebraska, if you have harvest more deer than you need, you can donate it to a participating processor and they will turn it into food for the less fortunate.

                    As kyle said, there is a donation program in place here.

                    In addition to original post, I could have also bought more antlerless tags for $12 each. Again, this is crazy. Almost considered that just so it would take more out of the pool.

                    If lucky enough we’ll take 4-5 total between the two seasons. This may sound like a lot but covers four families plus. We love our venison and nothing goes to waste.

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                      processhead said in Fall of the year:

                      PapaSop said in Fall of the year:

                      Just purchased my gun and bow licenses. One buck plus two free antlerless with each license. Opted out of the free metro tags. Ridiculous. Would never think of taking that many deer!

                      So, with the six of us who hunt this private land we could, in essence, take 36 deer! Not happening. Thank you Wi DNR.

                      Still don’t get the metro tags. Even though this area extends somewhat beyond the city limits is does include it. Pretty sure sure if I crack off a round at one of deer that frequent my street, they’re going to take me to jail. No thanks!

                      I’m just curious if Wisconsin has a Hunter’s Feeding The Hungry program? In Nebraska, if you have harvest more deer than you need, you can donate it to a participating processor and they will turn it into food for the less fortunate.

                      As kyle said, there is a donation program in place here.

                      In addition to original post, I could have also bought more antlerless tags for $12 each. Again, this is crazy. Almost considered that just so it would take more out of the pool.

                      If lucky enough we’ll take 4-5 total between the two seasons. This may sound like a lot but covers four families plus. We love our venison and nothing goes to waste.

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                      PapaSop I for one would never blame anyone for taking all the deer they can use. Everyones needs are different. I just can’t stand the ones that waist them just for the sake of killing. My grandfather would never kill a doe. Some people tried to convince him it was good for the deer herd. His response was so if I kill some of my cows does that mean I’m going to have more calves.

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                        In MN they use it for population control, some zones are bucks only, some have draws for antlerless, some are hunters choice and others allow more than one deer to be taken with extra licenses purchased, but all the extra licenses have to be for does or fawns.

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                          PapaSop I for one would never blame anyone for taking all the deer they can use. Everyones needs are different. I just can’t stand the ones that waist them just for the sake of killing. My grandfather would never kill a doe. Some people tried to convince him it was good for the deer herd. His response was so if I kill some of my cows does that mean I’m going to have more calves.

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                          cdavis said in Fall of the year:

                          PapaSop I for one would never blame anyone for taking all the deer they can use. Everyones needs are different. I just can’t stand the ones that waist them just for the sake of killing. My grandfather would never kill a doe. Some people tried to convince him it was good for the deer herd. His response was so if I kill some of my cows does that mean I’m going to have more calves.

                          Amen!

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                            PapaSop I for one would never blame anyone for taking all the deer they can use. Everyones needs are different. I just can’t stand the ones that waist them just for the sake of killing. My grandfather would never kill a doe. Some people tried to convince him it was good for the deer herd. His response was so if I kill some of my cows does that mean I’m going to have more calves.

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                            cdavis Actually understanding carrying capacity will tell you, yes shoot does. Just like a rancher, the amount of land and ability to afford supplemental feed tells you how many cattle you can have. Having more cattle than you can afford to feed will result in an unhealthy herd. Same goes for wildlife, the more mouths and less food to eat the weaker the deer are.

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                              I just talked to my nephew in pa and he got 2 doe tags he said that he could have bought 6 but he didn’t think that he would have time to process and hunt with a family

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                                Washington you get only one Buck tag then they have antler restrictions too, you might be lucky to draw a doe tag. They just reported a whitetail die off due to hot weather issues from this last summer and disease related to the contaminated water sources. Winter will take care of the bug problems with the first freeze. We are suppose to get snow above 6000 ft. on Friday and Saturday.

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                                  Fall is coming fast here in Western Washington. Temperatures in the morning are falling. This morning we had 36 degree’s, it won’t be long before we get a frost that take out the garden. My tomato plants are already telling me they are done for the season.

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                                    Here in NM it still gets hot during the day but the nights and mornings are cooling down nicely. Hopefully the days will also stay cooler. It is a great time in NM, you can drive around and smell green chile roasting all over.

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                                      Fall is coming fast here in Western Washington. Temperatures in the morning are falling. This morning we had 36 degree’s, it won’t be long before we get a frost that take out the garden. My tomato plants are already telling me they are done for the season.

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                                      johnsbrewhouse are temps are going down but not as much as you, still have green tomatoes on the vines

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                                        johnsbrewhouse are temps are going down but not as much as you, still have green tomatoes on the vines

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                                        craigrice getting down in the lower 40s at night here in north Wisconsin. Northern Minnesota has a frost advisory tonight

                                        hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                          craigrice getting down in the lower 40s at night here in north Wisconsin. Northern Minnesota has a frost advisory tonight

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                                          kyle OK, unless you have to be told. It’s time to start snuggling NOW!!!

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