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25lb batch of Hot Links with Swiss Cheese

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  • JonathonJ Jonathon

    Jamieson22 First, how was the tornado? How odd to hear Chicago getting hit with a tornado! 2nd I am going to guess that you had what is known as case hardening. This is when the outside of the sausage cooks and or dries too quickly (you said it flew up to 130) and then it can no longer pass heat into the center of the sausage efficiently. This is the cause of most marathon smoking sessions on something like a sausage. My suggestion would be to do the automotive sponge trick in your PK. Having a lot of humidity in there should prevent this from happening and it should speed up your cook in the future.

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    Jonathon said in 25lb batch of Hot Links with Swiss Cheese:

    Jamieson22 First, how was the tornado? How odd to hear Chicago getting hit with a tornado! 2nd I am going to guess that you had what is known as case hardening. This is when the outside of the sausage cooks and or dries too quickly (you said it flew up to 130) and then it can no longer pass heat into the center of the sausage efficiently. This is the cause of most marathon smoking sessions on something like a sausage. My suggestion would be to do the automotive sponge trick in your PK. Having a lot of humidity in there should prevent this from happening and it should speed up your cook in the future.

    The weather around here has been nuts. Can’t remember a time I’ve seen this much rain and crazy storms. Luckily no tornado in my immediate area though we did get a nice 1145pm wakeup call by a blaring tornado siren last week. Scary stuff.

    Watched the video on wicking towel. In general I’d still do 1 hour at 120F to dry, then add the wet sawdust pan and put on burner. Should I also add the water at this point or after the smoke is done? Any advice on a good water pan to use? It does look like I’ll lose quite a bit of room in smoker with a water pan on drip tray and the towel on rack above. Could it be rigged with water pan on burner and towel on drip tray?

    Also, after I make the sausage I usually clean the meat lug, add a plastic lug liner, toss all the sausage in, close up the liner and put lid on, and toss in fridge overnight. Next morning I add it to smoker right from the lug so it is usually fairly wet/cold - even if it has been on counter an hour or two. Should I dry it off a bit better and let it warm up at room temp or just extend drying phase a touch?

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      if you load your smoker with cold not room temp. meat it will increase the drying time and take longer to get up to Temp, and in the end affect your cook time

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      • Jamieson22J Jamieson22

        Jonathon said in 25lb batch of Hot Links with Swiss Cheese:

        Jamieson22 First, how was the tornado? How odd to hear Chicago getting hit with a tornado! 2nd I am going to guess that you had what is known as case hardening. This is when the outside of the sausage cooks and or dries too quickly (you said it flew up to 130) and then it can no longer pass heat into the center of the sausage efficiently. This is the cause of most marathon smoking sessions on something like a sausage. My suggestion would be to do the automotive sponge trick in your PK. Having a lot of humidity in there should prevent this from happening and it should speed up your cook in the future.

        The weather around here has been nuts. Can’t remember a time I’ve seen this much rain and crazy storms. Luckily no tornado in my immediate area though we did get a nice 1145pm wakeup call by a blaring tornado siren last week. Scary stuff.

        Watched the video on wicking towel. In general I’d still do 1 hour at 120F to dry, then add the wet sawdust pan and put on burner. Should I also add the water at this point or after the smoke is done? Any advice on a good water pan to use? It does look like I’ll lose quite a bit of room in smoker with a water pan on drip tray and the towel on rack above. Could it be rigged with water pan on burner and towel on drip tray?

        Also, after I make the sausage I usually clean the meat lug, add a plastic lug liner, toss all the sausage in, close up the liner and put lid on, and toss in fridge overnight. Next morning I add it to smoker right from the lug so it is usually fairly wet/cold - even if it has been on counter an hour or two. Should I dry it off a bit better and let it warm up at room temp or just extend drying phase a touch?

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        Jamieson22 maybe I missed it in the comments but I’m gonna ask, did you get the smoker cabinet up to temp before filling with sausage? I find it better to preheat to 250* before adding sausage so by the time you open the door, load the sausage and shut the door to start your drying phase the inside temp will be about 110* right away to start rather than having a cold cabinet and cold meat on top of it.

        Also did you have it on the 1250 watt setting the entire time from start to finish?

        My bigger unit takes about 7 hours for 25 lbs of product, maybe your single burner will take some time longer but I wouldn’t think much longer with how well insulated these units are

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        • Jamieson22J Jamieson22

          So my first run in the PK100 just kicked off. Currently drying at 110F.

          The full batch (25lb butt/2.5lb cheese/5c water/seasoning in 35-38mm casings) fit. Had a few stray singles that I tried to hook - not sure if these will hold. Also since these are paired links they kind of overlap each other at the bottom - again not sure what I can do.

          Also having to run it in the garage. We have had CRAZY storms this week and don’t want to be stuck in one. Figure if no rain I’ll open windows for cross-breeze, else rig a fan to blow smoke out.

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          Jamieson22 drying stage did you have all dampers wide open? It has the small round one on the bottom door does it have one on the top where smoke comes out as well or is that just a wide open chimney?

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          • craigriceC craigrice

            if you load your smoker with cold not room temp. meat it will increase the drying time and take longer to get up to Temp, and in the end affect your cook time

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            craigrice said in 25lb batch of Hot Links with Swiss Cheese:

            if you load your smoker with cold not room temp. meat it will increase the drying time and take longer to get up to Temp, and in the end affect your cook time

            Yeah and I did pull it out of fridge first thing in morning but def think a 25lb pile of sausage in a lug didn’t get to room temp. Will do a better job next time - likely hang in garage with a fan for an hour or two while before adding. Wish I had room to hang them in fridge but will have to deal with ambient temp in summer.

            twilliams said in 25lb batch of Hot Links with Swiss Cheese:

            Jamieson22 maybe I missed it in the comments but I’m gonna ask, did you get the smoker cabinet up to temp before filling with sausage?

            I did but only to my initial 110F. Will def pre-heat at higher temp next time. Thanks.
            My bigger fear was that the element just didn’t have enough power/energy to handle this much. I did keep it on 1250 watt the entire time.

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            • twilliamsT twilliams

              Jamieson22 drying stage did you have all dampers wide open? It has the small round one on the bottom door does it have one on the top where smoke comes out as well or is that just a wide open chimney?

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              twilliams said in 25lb batch of Hot Links with Swiss Cheese:

              Jamieson22 drying stage did you have all dampers wide open? It has the small round one on the bottom door does it have one on the top where smoke comes out as well or is that just a wide open chimney?

              When drying I did have both vents wide open. The top vent is a circle baffle within the chimney, but even “closed” it leaves a gap all the way around it.

              Trying to remember exactly but when I added smoke I closed them down a good bit and when cooking I closed bottom and left top cracked but also tried with bottom cracked as well to see if that helped push through stall at all. Pretty much followed the guide on the control panel as it has the Dry/Smoke/Cook phases on it.

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              • Jamieson22J Jamieson22

                twilliams said in 25lb batch of Hot Links with Swiss Cheese:

                Jamieson22 drying stage did you have all dampers wide open? It has the small round one on the bottom door does it have one on the top where smoke comes out as well or is that just a wide open chimney?

                When drying I did have both vents wide open. The top vent is a circle baffle within the chimney, but even “closed” it leaves a gap all the way around it.

                Trying to remember exactly but when I added smoke I closed them down a good bit and when cooking I closed bottom and left top cracked but also tried with bottom cracked as well to see if that helped push through stall at all. Pretty much followed the guide on the control panel as it has the Dry/Smoke/Cook phases on it.

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                Jamieson22
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                There is something so satisfying about this final step in the process: Packaging. Next step is to hand the majority of this off to friends/neighbors and plan the next batch!

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                • Jamieson22J Jamieson22

                  There is something so satisfying about this final step in the process: Packaging. Next step is to hand the majority of this off to friends/neighbors and plan the next batch!

                  IMG_2797.jpg

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                  Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
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                  Jamieson22 looks like a great product and lots of learning going. Some of the best ways to get experience is hands on.

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                  • Jamieson22J Jamieson22

                    There is something so satisfying about this final step in the process: Packaging. Next step is to hand the majority of this off to friends/neighbors and plan the next batch!

                    IMG_2797.jpg

                    IMG_2799.jpg

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                    Team Blue Cast Iron Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Veteran Sous Vide Power User Regular Contributors
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                    Jamieson22
                    Nicely done!! They look delicious.

                    “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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                    • YooperDogY YooperDog

                      Jamieson22 looks like a great product and lots of learning going. Some of the best ways to get experience is hands on.

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                      YooperDog said:

                      Jamieson22 looks like a great product and lots of learning going. Some of the best ways to get experience is hands on.

                      Surg said:

                      Jamieson22
                      Nicely done!! They look delicious.

                      Thanks to you both! Been doing BBQ for so darn long it is like cruise control and have to admit nailing this sausage process has been a challenge but am loving it. Still not 100% happy with my outcomes but they are still delicious and getting better each time. This group certainly has a lot to do with that!

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