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  • PapaSopP PapaSop

    Finally got to it with a high of 86 today. 40’s to 80’s is a bit of an adjustment. No chemicals used. Just used a plastic scraper and wiped down. Hate to lose that patina but it was time. Still don’t know why they feel the need to put glass in the door. Will be covered first smoke.

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    Miller time. 🍻

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    YooperDog
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    PapaSop I agree totally, just a marketing gimic. I picked mine up at a show and the price was right, but I told the rep that is the most useless thing that you need on a smoker.

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    • Bob StehlikB Bob Stehlik

      PapaSop You got rid of all the good “flavor”!!! 84 here in Colorado today so yes it Miller Time here too!

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      Bob Stehlik does the black creasote really give meat flavor? I know that people talk about seasoning it and such but I don’t quite understand where a creasote lined smoker gives off a flavor profile on meat. Im thinking when they talk about seasoning it is for new smokers to get any impurities burned off from the factory. I know it’s time to get mine cleaned up as I get creasote dripping on to my meat products which gives it a bitter taste. I will have to do some research on this but I’m sure it’s just gonna come to be opinion and not fact studied research and testing. I hope I’m wrong and will consider leaving it alone.

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      • PapaSopP PapaSop

        Finally got to it with a high of 86 today. 40’s to 80’s is a bit of an adjustment. No chemicals used. Just used a plastic scraper and wiped down. Hate to lose that patina but it was time. Still don’t know why they feel the need to put glass in the door. Will be covered first smoke.

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        Miller time. 🍻

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        PapaSop that wind was absolutely rediculous, doing a full front steering job and wheel bearings on the truck. It’s bad enough getting grease and dirt falling in your face but to have it blowing too…ugh. I lost a big 12” limb on my tree today, actually as bad that tree is I’m surprised it took this long. Will have to do one cut at the bottom sooner or later.

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          twilliams Are you trying to start a riot?! Some people insist it does some people say that is nonsense. I won’t add my .02 but I WILL say, I dont clean my PK100 unless I am forced too.

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          • JonathonJ Jonathon

            twilliams Are you trying to start a riot?! Some people insist it does some people say that is nonsense. I won’t add my .02 but I WILL say, I dont clean my PK100 unless I am forced too.

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            Jonathon no riot starting here, just a lack of understanding, knowledge and evidence proving the theory. As stated people saying one thing and others saying another, how can we test this theory accurately? My thoughts is the smoke generated in mid air is what adheres to the meat surface not remnants from the interior cabin.

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            • JonathonJ Jonathon

              twilliams Are you trying to start a riot?! Some people insist it does some people say that is nonsense. I won’t add my .02 but I WILL say, I dont clean my PK100 unless I am forced too.

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              Jonathon and at what terms does it deem time to clean when you are “forced” to clean?

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                #26

                I think most folks who claim the mystical qualities of leaving the smoker residue alone actually leave it there for the same reason I do.

                That reason being, its a dirty job and I am lazy. 😊

                On the rare occasion when I do clean my smokers, it is to avoid a potential grease fire or when creosote flakes start falling on to the meat.

                Paul

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                  I loved looking at this thread. It just shows the true experience and how different approaches to the same problem get er done. I just occasionally take a cheap wide grill brush and knock down the flakes as needed and wipe it down. I forget who pointed out that seasoning metal is not the same as seasoning meat, but that was dead on.

                  “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                    When I need to clean my Masterbuilt LP, I crank up the heat full blast for a couple hours and then scrape it down.

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                    • twilliamsT twilliams

                      Jonathon and at what terms does it deem time to clean when you are “forced” to clean?

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                      #29

                      twilliams I clean my smokers when the residue on the top and sides ends up being little black flakes on my food; cheese, fish etc. I usually just scrape it down with an old gift card or plastic scraper and vacuum out. I do have a couple of Traegers so I vacuum out the ash after every 3-4 long smokes.

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                      • Bob StehlikB Bob Stehlik

                        twilliams I clean my smokers when the residue on the top and sides ends up being little black flakes on my food; cheese, fish etc. I usually just scrape it down with an old gift card or plastic scraper and vacuum out. I do have a couple of Traegers so I vacuum out the ash after every 3-4 long smokes.

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                        Bob Stehlik
                        Yep, exactly my reason for doing this. Those little black flakes are not very appealing on a nice chunk of meat. First time cleaning since getting this unit 2+ years ago.

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                        • Bob StehlikB Bob Stehlik

                          twilliams I clean my smokers when the residue on the top and sides ends up being little black flakes on my food; cheese, fish etc. I usually just scrape it down with an old gift card or plastic scraper and vacuum out. I do have a couple of Traegers so I vacuum out the ash after every 3-4 long smokes.

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                          Bob Stehlik PapaSop i dont get dry flakes, mine is all gooey resins that liquify and drip when heated up

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                            I clean my smoker every spring and the racks every time I use the smoker

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                              I wipe down mine in the spring, focusing in the temp sensors/probe, seals and glass using some vinegar water. I clean the racks almost after every use. Only shiny metal are the racks and temp sensors/probe.

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                              • twilliamsT twilliams

                                Bob Stehlik PapaSop i dont get dry flakes, mine is all gooey resins that liquify and drip when heated up

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                                twilliams
                                Interesting. Perhaps the heat source? No idea. Need a chemical engineer here.

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                                • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                  twilliams
                                  Interesting. Perhaps the heat source? No idea. Need a chemical engineer here.

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                                  PapaSop that would be Chef. He is one. Ask him your question

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                                  • twilliamsT twilliams

                                    Bob Stehlik PapaSop i dont get dry flakes, mine is all gooey resins that liquify and drip when heated up

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                                    twilliams What is your fuel source?

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                                      Just guessing here, but I think temperature of the smoke and the smoker has a lot to do with whether you have dry residue or stickier smoke residue. Also how much grease vaporizes out of the product in the smoker during the cooking process.

                                      Paul

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                                      • ChefC Chef

                                        twilliams What is your fuel source?

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                                        Chef heat source is electric. One oven size element for main heat source and 1 stove top coil element for saw dust. Have used mostly hickory with some apple and cherry. Also have an internal fan for even heat and drying in the cabin and a fan in the exhaust vent pipe

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                                          So i have done a little searching not alot, only on my phone and not desktop. I have read, which is what i suspected is a little bit of personal preference and opinions. Some say no need to clean and just brush loose stuff off as they admit will get flakes of creosote on the food. However, majority of articles are saying yes a clean smoker is beneficial in the taste and final look of the product. When talking about seasoning, they say it does two things. #1 It rids of any contamination such as oils from the manufacturing process. And #2 it puts a layer of creosote on the walls to keep it from rusting. If you have a Stainless Steel unit then that is not an issue. Several articles go on to say about drippage from excess creosote material in cabin on food as well as giving too much creosote on food turning it black can actually make your tongue numb as well as have a very bitter taste. So the question is “bark”, when is enough to achieve what you want. I feel that you dont need to strive for a heavy black “bark” to get a smokey taste, infact i think its too much. I will keep on my search, i really want to find out the scientific evidence supporting clean and maintaining vs leaving the build up. I will also add, creosote is very flammable at a certain point.

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