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Is Reduced ECA Ok As Cure Accelerator?

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  • keend0K Offline
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    keend0
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    I made a batch of summer sausage using venison and pork fat 75:25. I used H seasoning, sure cure, sure gel and ECA. The product turned out great but I would like to reduce the tanginess a bit for my taste.

    Couple questions:

    • Is it ok to use half the recommended ECA for the desired flavor?

    • If I do use 1/2 the ECA, is that still enough to act as a cure accelerator allowing me to cook immediately?

    • If that is not enough ECA to act as a cure accelerator, can I add sodium erythorbate at 1/2 the recommended rate along with the 1/2 ECA to get the desired flavor and still the desired cure acceleration?

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      Jonathon , I have the same question. I did a couple batches with half the ECA and haven’t got sick or tipped over yet, but I want to do it right.

      hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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        if you dont like the tang of the eca mix and stuff then hold overnight then smoke

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          eca is a cure accelerator if you hold over night after stuffing the cure has time to work with out the eca

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          • keend0K keend0

            I made a batch of summer sausage using venison and pork fat 75:25. I used H seasoning, sure cure, sure gel and ECA. The product turned out great but I would like to reduce the tanginess a bit for my taste.

            Couple questions:

            • Is it ok to use half the recommended ECA for the desired flavor?

            • If I do use 1/2 the ECA, is that still enough to act as a cure accelerator allowing me to cook immediately?

            • If that is not enough ECA to act as a cure accelerator, can I add sodium erythorbate at 1/2 the recommended rate along with the 1/2 ECA to get the desired flavor and still the desired cure acceleration?

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            Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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            keend0 there is also smoked meat stabilizer to use as an accelerant. It has no where near the tanginess.

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            • craigriceC craigrice

              if you dont like the tang of the eca mix and stuff then hold overnight then smoke

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              keend0
              Team Orange
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              craigrice I do like a bit of tang, just not as much as the package recommends.

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              • cdavisC cdavis

                keend0 there is also smoked meat stabilizer to use as an accelerant. It has no where near the tanginess.

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                cdavis Thanks, will add some smoked meat stabilizer to my next order and give it a try.

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                • keend0K keend0

                  cdavis Thanks, will add some smoked meat stabilizer to my next order and give it a try.

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                  cdavis
                  Team Blue Big Green Egg Masterbuilt Canning Kamado Joes Regular Contributors Power User
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                  keend0 I think you will like it. I also like a little tang but the ECA was too much for me.

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                  • craigriceC craigrice

                    if you dont like the tang of the eca mix and stuff then hold overnight then smoke

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                    Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
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                    craigrice holding it over night is how I have been doing it for the last 20 years, but after learning new things after finding Waltons how to videos, thought I would try something different. I find half the amount of ECA adds a small amount of tang, but seems to enhance other flavors as well. I actually prefer to hold over night as the flavors seem to be more even in the meat, but I know I cant with ECA.

                    hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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