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  • wvhunter1965W wvhunter1965

    Good afternoon all,

    What cure would be recommended for making chipped deer and what curing process should be used? I do not see anything listed for that purpose in the cures list.

    Wanting to try something new. We love chipped deer but have had it all made for us previously.

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    kyle
    Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
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    wvhunter1965 I make smoked venison bundles that are very similar to dried beef. I separate the individual bundles apart in the hind quarter. The brine is tender quick (follow instructions on the back) 1/2 cup real maple syrup, 1 T black pepper, 1 T garlic powder. Inject meat with brine and put in ziplock bag with rest of brine in fridge for 3 days. Rinse meat, cold smoke 2 hours, then cook at 250 until internal temp reaches 150-155.

    hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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      craigrice
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      to make A dried meat it needs to be dehydrated after brining and smoking to achieve the end results

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      • wvhunter1965W wvhunter1965

        Good afternoon all,

        What cure would be recommended for making chipped deer and what curing process should be used? I do not see anything listed for that purpose in the cures list.

        Wanting to try something new. We love chipped deer but have had it all made for us previously.

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        kyle
        Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
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        #6

        wvhunter1965 Also when I smoke the bundles, I don’t use gas or electric, I do them in my offset smoker with a maple wood fire. As craigrice pointed out its not a true dried meat, but it’s a favorite among all my friends and family

        hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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          wvhunter1965
          Team Blue Canning Green Mountain Grill
          wrote on last edited by
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          Good info all. I will try it one day provided the deer co-operate!

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            So here I sit in my deer stand thinking of chipped beef/venison. 2 people have asked me this season if Ive made it (i havent). So I decide Ill jump on meatgistics and ask…bam already posted. Thats why I love this group.

            Can any one expand on the traditional method that Jon mentioned as a pressed meat? Wondering how that method and product differs from Kyle’s method?

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            • deanlorensenD deanlorensen

              So here I sit in my deer stand thinking of chipped beef/venison. 2 people have asked me this season if Ive made it (i havent). So I decide Ill jump on meatgistics and ask…bam already posted. Thats why I love this group.

              Can any one expand on the traditional method that Jon mentioned as a pressed meat? Wondering how that method and product differs from Kyle’s method?

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              kyle
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              deanlorensen I’m sure someone can…but not me, I have never made it with pressed meat. All I can tell you about mine is the thinner you slice it, the better it is. I use a meat slicer so I get thin, even pieces. It is great to use in cream dried beef over toast (s**t on a shingle). It is very important to rinse it good before you smoke it. My Dad would rinse the chunks I would give him again after the smoke as it was a bit salty for him. Good luck hunting!

              hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                Jonathon
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                deanlorensen I am going to have some deer here soon (hopefully) and I will try to make some of this. Seems as if there is interest and its not something I have made before so should be cool! I will try make both a traditional and a modified version of craigrice just with the HBC dehydrator instead of the stove.

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                • wvhunter1965W Offline
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                  wvhunter1965
                  Team Blue Canning Green Mountain Grill
                  wrote on last edited by
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                  Kyle, getting ready to try the chipped beef recipe that you posted. Will add a drying process to the end as I agree with craigrice that it needs to be dried. I seem to prefer it dried.

                  Will let you know how it turns out when done!

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                  • wvhunter1965W wvhunter1965

                    Kyle, getting ready to try the chipped beef recipe that you posted. Will add a drying process to the end as I agree with craigrice that it needs to be dried. I seem to prefer it dried.

                    Will let you know how it turns out when done!

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                    mrobisr
                    Team Blue Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
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                    wvhunter1965 said in Chipped Deer:

                    Kyle, getting ready to try the chipped beef recipe that you posted. Will add a drying process to the end as I agree with craigrice that it needs to be dried. I seem to prefer it dried.

                    Will let you know how it turns out when done!

                    If you have sure cure or cure #1 use it instead of TQ.

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                    • wvhunter1965W wvhunter1965

                      Kyle, getting ready to try the chipped beef recipe that you posted. Will add a drying process to the end as I agree with craigrice that it needs to be dried. I seem to prefer it dried.

                      Will let you know how it turns out when done!

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                      kyle
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                      wvhunter1965 cool, please let me know. Sorry I didnt see your post sooner. If you put the @ symbol before someones name, the will get a notification. Good luck

                      hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                      • mrobisrM mrobisr

                        wvhunter1965 said in Chipped Deer:

                        Kyle, getting ready to try the chipped beef recipe that you posted. Will add a drying process to the end as I agree with craigrice that it needs to be dried. I seem to prefer it dried.

                        Will let you know how it turns out when done!

                        If you have sure cure or cure #1 use it instead of TQ.

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                        Regular Contributors Veteran Canning Team Blue Power User Sous Vide
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                        mrobisr so why not tender quick?

                        hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                        • kyleK kyle

                          mrobisr so why not tender quick?

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                          kyle said in Chipped Deer:

                          mrobisr so why not tender quick?

                          If you are just going to dehydrate it at low temps it will be fine, but if you will fry it (high temps) the nitrates in TQ/Sugarcure turn into nitrosamines which are not good for us. TQ/Sugarcure contains nitrates and nitrites and that is actually cure #2 which is used for non-cooked meats. For meats that are cured for <30 days all you need is surecure/cure #1 nitrite. For non-cooked meats that are cured for >30 days then #2 cure which contains nitrates and nitrities is the only choice.

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                          • kyleK kyle

                            mrobisr so why not tender quick?

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                            kyle said in Chipped Deer:

                            mrobisr so why not tender quick?

                            Will a little TQ on high heat hurt you… probable not, but why chance it when it does NOT help your final product. For the most part if the final product is to be cooked then use surecure/cure #1, if you are making non-cooked/charcutrie then use cure #2 which contains both cures #1 & 2.

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                            • kyleK kyle

                              mrobisr so why not tender quick?

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                              kyle said in Chipped Deer:

                              mrobisr so why not tender quick?

                              Commercially, nitrate is no longer allowed for use in curing of smoked and cooked meats, non-smoked and cooked meats, or sausages (US FDA 1999). However, nitrate is still allowed in small amounts in the making of dry cured uncooked products. Home food preservers should avoid the direct use of this chemical and opt for the mixtures described above.
                              https://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/nchfp/lit_rev/cure_smoke_cure.html

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                              • mrobisrM mrobisr

                                kyle said in Chipped Deer:

                                mrobisr so why not tender quick?

                                Commercially, nitrate is no longer allowed for use in curing of smoked and cooked meats, non-smoked and cooked meats, or sausages (US FDA 1999). However, nitrate is still allowed in small amounts in the making of dry cured uncooked products. Home food preservers should avoid the direct use of this chemical and opt for the mixtures described above.
                                https://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/nchfp/lit_rev/cure_smoke_cure.html

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                                #18

                                mrobisr thanks for the info. I will have to look into this and figure out how much #1 I would have to use and if it changes the flavor

                                hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                • kyleK kyle

                                  mrobisr thanks for the info. I will have to look into this and figure out how much #1 I would have to use and if it changes the flavor

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                                  kyle said in Chipped Deer:

                                  mrobisr thanks for the info. I will have to look into this and figure out haw much #1 I would have to use and if it changes the flavor

                                  It will NOT change the flavor at all!

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                                    So, mrobisr, I suppose my question would be if I am using sure cure, what is the amount of water to use along with the recipe that kyle showed? The conversion chart shows the following for Sure Cure which does not give an amount for water but lists N/A in both 1lb and 5 lb meat quantities.

                                    Sure Cure (Pink) 45604900091/4 tsp (.04 oz / 1 g) N/A 1 1/4 tsp (.2 oz / 5 g) N/A

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                                    • wvhunter1965W wvhunter1965

                                      So, mrobisr, I suppose my question would be if I am using sure cure, what is the amount of water to use along with the recipe that kyle showed? The conversion chart shows the following for Sure Cure which does not give an amount for water but lists N/A in both 1lb and 5 lb meat quantities.

                                      Sure Cure (Pink) 45604900091/4 tsp (.04 oz / 1 g) N/A 1 1/4 tsp (.2 oz / 5 g) N/A

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                                      #21

                                      wvhunter1965 to equal the TQ salt level and proper nitrite level add,
                                      21.2g/5 1/4tsp sure cure into a measured cup of non-iodized salt mixed into 4 cups water. Hopefully my words haven’t failed me, but total cure and salt should equal 1 measured cup.

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                                      • wvhunter1965W wvhunter1965

                                        Kyle, getting ready to try the chipped beef recipe that you posted. Will add a drying process to the end as I agree with craigrice that it needs to be dried. I seem to prefer it dried.

                                        Will let you know how it turns out when done!

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                                        cdavis
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                                        wvhunter1965 I would like to see some pictures of the chipped deer.I have never heard of it but would like to try some. Thanks

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                                        • cdavisC cdavis

                                          wvhunter1965 I would like to see some pictures of the chipped deer.I have never heard of it but would like to try some. Thanks

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                                          This is a venison roast I cured, smoked, dried and cut thin slices. Was very good as chipped venison.

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