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    How To Make A Juicy Homemade Turkey Bratwurst

    Learn if cold phosphate will help us make a juicy low fat bratwurst with Walton's and Meatgistics. Watch the video, read the guide, and then post your questions or comments below.

    Can I use Cold Phosphate to make a juicy low fat brat?

    We have done a few videos showing you how to prepare a Turkey a few different ways for your holiday meal. That got me thinking about using Turkey to make other products so we are going to do some Turkey Brats. At 9 grams of fat per 4 oz of meat turkey is going to have a fat content that is just slightly higher than chicken but lower than ground beef, so we are going to try to make a juicy product without adding any additional fat to it. If you wanted to add pork fat to your bratwurst or sausage you absolutely could do that.

    Now, instead of buying another turkey and processing it I just went to the store and bought 10 lb of already ground turkey. This is something you can do at home as well with pork or beef or chicken if you don’t want to grind your own product at home. Since we are making bratwursts with this and we don’t need protein extraction we can take it right out of the package and begin mixing in our seasonings and additives.

    Choosing your seasoning when making a low fat product is important. Fat acts as a vehicle for the seasoning, it helps coat your mouth and tongue and lets the seasoning linger and increases the taste. So you need to choose something with a fairly strong taste and I like to add a little more seasoning that I normally would if I was making a product with a higher fat content. For this one I am going with Supreme Pizza Brat seasoning and I am going to add Hi temp cheese. The last time we tried something like this we used chicken and added lots of carrot fiber and extra water. This time we are going to follow a similar recipe but we are going to add cold phosphate as well to see if that will help it retain even more moisture like it did in the smoked and cured Turkey that we just made.

    So all in all I am using 5 lb of store bought ground turkey, 1/4 a package of Supreme Pizza Brat (a full package would normally season 25 lb of meat) 1/4 a package of carrot fiber and 0.4 oz of cold phosphate. Now, for a 25 lb batch of regular brats we recommend 12 oz of cold water, since I am using 5 lb of turkey I should use about 2.7 oz of water but since I am using both carrot fiber and cold phosphate I am going to double that and use 4.5 oz of water.

    So I have mixed in the seasoning, water cold phosphate and carrot fiber and have made sure that is evenly dispersed, lastly I mixed in the cheese and now we are going to mix in the cheese and go to stuffing.

    I am going to stuff these into Natural Sheep Casings, normally I like to use collagen casings but I am going to use our Walton’s Manual Sausage linker on these and that works best with Natural Casings. To prepare the casings I have let them soak in water and rinsed in the inside of the casings as well. The best way to do this is to turn on a faucet to just above a trickle and hold the end of one of the sheep casings underneath that. The water will find its way in there and down through the casing, much easier than trying to hold the end of a small sheep casing open.

    As I pack my cannister I am making sure that I am not leaving any air pockets here so I am filling it at alternating angles, from left to right and then from right to left and packing it down with my fist. Of course I have lubricated the top of the cannister with white oil to make sure this gasket is working properly.

    Since it is poultry I cooked them until an internal temperature of 165°, undercooked poultry is nothing to mess around with so be sure to get them all up to 165°. Adding the cold phosphate and the carrot fiber did a great job in helping this product retain more moisture and seem much juicer, from now on I will be adding cold phosphate to any poultry or low fat product I make!

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    • JonathonJ Jonathon

      How To Make A Juicy Homemade Turkey Bratwurst

      Learn if cold phosphate will help us make a juicy low fat bratwurst with Walton's and Meatgistics. Watch the video, read the guide, and then post your questions or comments below.

      Can I use Cold Phosphate to make a juicy low fat brat?

      We have done a few videos showing you how to prepare a Turkey a few different ways for your holiday meal. That got me thinking about using Turkey to make other products so we are going to do some Turkey Brats. At 9 grams of fat per 4 oz of meat turkey is going to have a fat content that is just slightly higher than chicken but lower than ground beef, so we are going to try to make a juicy product without adding any additional fat to it. If you wanted to add pork fat to your bratwurst or sausage you absolutely could do that.

      Now, instead of buying another turkey and processing it I just went to the store and bought 10 lb of already ground turkey. This is something you can do at home as well with pork or beef or chicken if you don’t want to grind your own product at home. Since we are making bratwursts with this and we don’t need protein extraction we can take it right out of the package and begin mixing in our seasonings and additives.

      Choosing your seasoning when making a low fat product is important. Fat acts as a vehicle for the seasoning, it helps coat your mouth and tongue and lets the seasoning linger and increases the taste. So you need to choose something with a fairly strong taste and I like to add a little more seasoning that I normally would if I was making a product with a higher fat content. For this one I am going with Supreme Pizza Brat seasoning and I am going to add Hi temp cheese. The last time we tried something like this we used chicken and added lots of carrot fiber and extra water. This time we are going to follow a similar recipe but we are going to add cold phosphate as well to see if that will help it retain even more moisture like it did in the smoked and cured Turkey that we just made.

      So all in all I am using 5 lb of store bought ground turkey, 1/4 a package of Supreme Pizza Brat (a full package would normally season 25 lb of meat) 1/4 a package of carrot fiber and 0.4 oz of cold phosphate. Now, for a 25 lb batch of regular brats we recommend 12 oz of cold water, since I am using 5 lb of turkey I should use about 2.7 oz of water but since I am using both carrot fiber and cold phosphate I am going to double that and use 4.5 oz of water.

      So I have mixed in the seasoning, water cold phosphate and carrot fiber and have made sure that is evenly dispersed, lastly I mixed in the cheese and now we are going to mix in the cheese and go to stuffing.

      I am going to stuff these into Natural Sheep Casings, normally I like to use collagen casings but I am going to use our Walton’s Manual Sausage linker on these and that works best with Natural Casings. To prepare the casings I have let them soak in water and rinsed in the inside of the casings as well. The best way to do this is to turn on a faucet to just above a trickle and hold the end of one of the sheep casings underneath that. The water will find its way in there and down through the casing, much easier than trying to hold the end of a small sheep casing open.

      As I pack my cannister I am making sure that I am not leaving any air pockets here so I am filling it at alternating angles, from left to right and then from right to left and packing it down with my fist. Of course I have lubricated the top of the cannister with white oil to make sure this gasket is working properly.

      Since it is poultry I cooked them until an internal temperature of 165°, undercooked poultry is nothing to mess around with so be sure to get them all up to 165°. Adding the cold phosphate and the carrot fiber did a great job in helping this product retain more moisture and seem much juicer, from now on I will be adding cold phosphate to any poultry or low fat product I make!

      Subscribe to WaltonsTV

      Make sure you subscribe to WaltonsTV and remember to tap the bell next to the subscribed button to get notified about all new videos, plus like and comment on this video, and visit waltonsinc.com and meatgistics.com to find Everything But The Meat!

      Subscribe to Meatgistics

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        skipdiggidy Hi, I’m not sure if you meant to leave a note or a reply but there is no text in the message?

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          skipdiggidy Hi, I’m not sure if you meant to leave a note or a reply but there is no text in the message?

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          Jonathon I wanted to know how much carrot fiber per lb without phosphate

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            Jonathon I wanted to know how much carrot fiber per lb without phosphate

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            skipdiggidy The recommended usage for Carrot Fiber is 4 oz to 25 lb of meat. If you are selling your product then there are some restrictions as to how much you can use. If you are making this product for yourself and your friends then there really is no restriction on how much you could use. I have doubled that and added half again as much water and had no issues. Carrot Fiber holds 26 times it’s weight in water so adding even more water really shouldn’t be a concern. If you add more than the recommended amount and extra water and they turn out juicy make sure you take pics and post them!

            Check out this post https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/393/how-to-make-juicier-chicken-brats for more information on using just carrot fiber to make a juicier product.

            Let us know if you need anything else!

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              skipdiggidy I wanted to ask how important is the cold phosphate in a juicier poultry sausage,how big of a diffe fence if I just used the carrot fiber?

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                skipdiggidy I wanted to ask how important is the cold phosphate in a juicier poultry sausage,how big of a diffe fence if I just used the carrot fiber?

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                skipdiggidy When I compare this to the chicken one I did with just Carrot Fiber there was a noticeable difference. However, using Carrot Fiber without the Cold Phosphate is absolutely going to help you with water retention. When you add the two together in your poultry bratwurst you really do get a better finished product in my mind. The cold phosphate shifts the PH of the meat and provides more negative protein charges for the water to bind with so the water is bound to the meat more effectively.

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                  skipdiggidy When I compare this to the chicken one I did with just Carrot Fiber there was a noticeable difference. However, using Carrot Fiber without the Cold Phosphate is absolutely going to help you with water retention. When you add the two together in your poultry bratwurst you really do get a better finished product in my mind. The cold phosphate shifts the PH of the meat and provides more negative protein charges for the water to bind with so the water is bound to the meat more effectively.

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                  Jonathon thank you,and it’s the cold phosphate sodium?

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                    Jonathon thank you,and it’s the cold phosphate sodium?

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                    skipdiggidy That is correct, I might have said sodium phosphate in the video but cold phosphate (https://www.waltonsinc.com/cold-phosphate) is the actual name of what I used.

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                      skipdiggidy That is correct, I might have said sodium phosphate in the video but cold phosphate (https://www.waltonsinc.com/cold-phosphate) is the actual name of what I used.

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                      Jonathon you said cold phosphate, just on the store it had sodium next to it,i tried the csrrot fiber with chicken but used a smokedrecipe with cure,wasnt the juiciest but not too bad,i guess i would have better results if I did a fresh sausage?

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                        Jonathon you said cold phosphate, just on the store it had sodium next to it,i tried the csrrot fiber with chicken but used a smokedrecipe with cure,wasnt the juiciest but not too bad,i guess i would have better results if I did a fresh sausage?

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                        skipdiggidy To a certain extent that would depend on cook schedule. If you add a cure and smoke it you can cook it slower and at a lower temperature which will not dry it out as much as if you were to grill it at higher temperatures. So if you are wanting to make a fresh product I would definitely recommend adding cold phosphate to help with the moisture!

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                          skipdiggidy To a certain extent that would depend on cook schedule. If you add a cure and smoke it you can cook it slower and at a lower temperature which will not dry it out as much as if you were to grill it at higher temperatures. So if you are wanting to make a fresh product I would definitely recommend adding cold phosphate to help with the moisture!

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                          Jonathon I did have them on the smoker 220°, I would have a better result if I had smoked them at 160° ?

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                            Jonathon I did have them on the smoker 220°, I would have a better result if I had smoked them at 160° ?

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                            skipdiggidy If you started them at 220° then that might have played a part in drying them out. If you add cure I would recommend a smoke schedule of 120 with no smoke, then add smoke and cook them at 130 for a half hour, then 140 for a half hour, then a 150 for a half hour and finally at 200 until the internal temperature is 165°. This schedule should give you a a finished product with more moisture.

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                              If you grind your own turkey, do you grind the skin or not?

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                                Screamin I wouldn’t. Unless you have an emulsifier plate you are probably going to allow bits through that might be nasty to bite into. I know that sounds disappointing as turkey skin is excellent when left on and eaten but it won’t have that consistency that makes it so good!

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                                  Hi, Jonathan. This may be a dumb question but is there any reason I can’t use a marinade mix, like Cyclops Greek, as a sausage seasoning next time I make chicken/turkey sausage? Thanks in advance.

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                                    aaronreste If you are making a fresh sausage like a brat then no, not really. It is not formulated for that, so amount of seasoning per lb of meat might take some trial and error. Now, if you were making a cured sausage like a snack stick/summer sausage then you might need to calculate salt content into your figures more, as salt plays a key roll in protein extraction. But, for a fresh brat that shouldn’t be an issue. Let us know how that goes, Cyclops is my favorite thing to use on Tri-Tips. Everything else gets Pa’s Black Bull!

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