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    Jonathon
    Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
    wrote on last edited by Jonathon
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    Cured Turkey

    Cured Whole Muscle Meat 201- Cured & Smoked Turkey

    Attend this entry-level class from Meatgistics University by watching the video, reading the article and post any questions you have!

    Injecting Ham
    Smoked Turkey
    Smoked Turkey

    What Is Cured Turkey?

    Cured Turkey is a turkey that has either been brined in a solution that contains nitrites or has had a solution containing nitrites injected into it. The curing process allows for lower smoking temperatures as the curing agent will help to retard the growth of bacteria and will impart a slight ham-like flavor to the meat, as well as keeping the meat from drying out as easily.

    Meat Block

    24 lb Turkey (figure 1/2 hour of smoking per lb of meat)
    1 Bag of Walton’s Complete Turkey Cure
    Sodium Phosphate
    Rosemary Basil & Thyme
    1 Stick of Butter

    Equipment

    Walton’s Automatic Syringe Injector
    Versanet
    Auto-Load Hog Ring Pliers
    Stark Bucket Liner
    Food Storage Container

    Injection Solution

    The first thing to do is to create your injection solution, and the first step of that is to figure out how much water you need to use. Walton’s Complete Turkey Cure requires 1.49 lb of seasoning to 1 gallon of water for a 10% pump. This means that if your turkey weighs 24 lb (like ours) we want to inject 10% of that weight into the turkey, so 2.4 lb. Since 1 gallon of water weighs 8.34 lb this would technically be enough to inject more than 80 lb of turkey, so you obviously don’t need the entire gallon for injection purposes. However, we still recommend you make the entire gallon, as you can use the remaining amount for the base of your 50% cover solution to hold the product overnight.

    Water

    It is very important to use water that has low microbial levels and low to no chlorine, buying distilled water from your grocery store is a good way to ensure you will not have any issues from the water. If you are using tap water leave it in an uncovered container in a cooler overnight to let any of the gas escape the water.

    Process

    Fully dissolve the Sodium Phosphate in 1 gallon of water. You want to figure the amount of phosphate by the # of lb your (meat is) (injection is able to do). So, you would use 4 oz of Sodium Phosphate for 25 lb of meat, so, divide 4/25 and that gives you the # of oz per lb of meat, then multiply that number by the lb of meat you have and that is the amount of Sodium Phosphate you need. IMPORTANT Dissolve your sodium phosphate 1st, before any other ingredients and make sure it is fully dissolved.

    Mix in 1.49 lb of Walton’s Complete Turkey Cure into your injection solution. Keep mixing until you are certain all of it has been dissolved and you don’t have anything at the bottom.

    Injection

    You want to inject 10% of the weight of your turkey with the solution. Putting your turkey in a Poly Pan or Meat Lug will make this much easier and easier to clean up. You can either weigh your turkey as you are injecting it or, if it is easier you can weigh your solution as you inject.

    You will want to inject the bulk of your solution into the breast meat, but also inject some into the drumsticks.

    Rub

    Mix Rosemary Basil & Thyme with a stick of softened butter. Separate the skin from the breast meat by slowly sliding your hand between the meat and skin. Once you begin this process it is fairly simple but be careful not to tear the skin. Rub the mixture of butter and seasoning underneath the skin of the breast and then on the outside of the skin and the legs.

    Cover Brine

    Then we will use the remaining cure solution to cover our ham while we let it sit in the cooler overnight. We want this to be a 50% strength solution so our options are, either use the cure at the rate of 1 lb per gallon of water or we can weigh what we have leftover from our injection and add whatever it weighs in water so the cure would now be at a 50% strength solution.

    Note

    Next, it needs to be stuffed into a casing like Versanet so that it can then hung in the smokehouse. We like versanet as it is a plastic product that releases easily from the turkey after the smoking process and leaves a very nice checkered pattern on your turkey.

    Thermal Processing & Smoking

    1 Hour at 150° with no smoke or humidity
    1 Hour 160° and begin smoking and adding humidity
    175° until internal temperature reaches 165° (Figure 1/2 hour for each lb of turkey)

    Cooling

    Serve hot or let it cool for 1 hour at room temperature before moving it to the fridge for holding overnight before vacuum packing.

    Wrap up

    Now we have a beautiful homemade smoked turkey that is going to taste at least as good as anything bought in the store!

    Additional Tips

    • Add some baking powder to your rub if you want extra crispy skin (thanks Tex_77)
    • You can brine the turkey if you do not want to inject, just use full strength solution and hold for 3-4 days

    Watch WaltonsTV: Ham Basics

    Shop waltonsinc.com for Bratwurst Seasoning

    Shop waltonsinc.com for Meat Grinders

    Shop waltonsinc.com for High-Temp Cheese

    Shop waltonsinc.com for Boning Knives


    Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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    • JonathonJ Jonathon
      Cured Turkey

      Cured Whole Muscle Meat 201- Cured & Smoked Turkey

      Attend this entry-level class from Meatgistics University by watching the video, reading the article and post any questions you have!

      Injecting Ham
      Smoked Turkey
      Smoked Turkey

      What Is Cured Turkey?

      Cured Turkey is a turkey that has either been brined in a solution that contains nitrites or has had a solution containing nitrites injected into it. The curing process allows for lower smoking temperatures as the curing agent will help to retard the growth of bacteria and will impart a slight ham-like flavor to the meat, as well as keeping the meat from drying out as easily.

      Meat Block

      24 lb Turkey (figure 1/2 hour of smoking per lb of meat)
      1 Bag of Walton’s Complete Turkey Cure
      Sodium Phosphate
      Rosemary Basil & Thyme
      1 Stick of Butter

      Equipment

      Walton’s Automatic Syringe Injector
      Versanet
      Auto-Load Hog Ring Pliers
      Stark Bucket Liner
      Food Storage Container

      Injection Solution

      The first thing to do is to create your injection solution, and the first step of that is to figure out how much water you need to use. Walton’s Complete Turkey Cure requires 1.49 lb of seasoning to 1 gallon of water for a 10% pump. This means that if your turkey weighs 24 lb (like ours) we want to inject 10% of that weight into the turkey, so 2.4 lb. Since 1 gallon of water weighs 8.34 lb this would technically be enough to inject more than 80 lb of turkey, so you obviously don’t need the entire gallon for injection purposes. However, we still recommend you make the entire gallon, as you can use the remaining amount for the base of your 50% cover solution to hold the product overnight.

      Water

      It is very important to use water that has low microbial levels and low to no chlorine, buying distilled water from your grocery store is a good way to ensure you will not have any issues from the water. If you are using tap water leave it in an uncovered container in a cooler overnight to let any of the gas escape the water.

      Process

      Fully dissolve the Sodium Phosphate in 1 gallon of water. You want to figure the amount of phosphate by the # of lb your (meat is) (injection is able to do). So, you would use 4 oz of Sodium Phosphate for 25 lb of meat, so, divide 4/25 and that gives you the # of oz per lb of meat, then multiply that number by the lb of meat you have and that is the amount of Sodium Phosphate you need. IMPORTANT Dissolve your sodium phosphate 1st, before any other ingredients and make sure it is fully dissolved.

      Mix in 1.49 lb of Walton’s Complete Turkey Cure into your injection solution. Keep mixing until you are certain all of it has been dissolved and you don’t have anything at the bottom.

      Injection

      You want to inject 10% of the weight of your turkey with the solution. Putting your turkey in a Poly Pan or Meat Lug will make this much easier and easier to clean up. You can either weigh your turkey as you are injecting it or, if it is easier you can weigh your solution as you inject.

      You will want to inject the bulk of your solution into the breast meat, but also inject some into the drumsticks.

      Rub

      Mix Rosemary Basil & Thyme with a stick of softened butter. Separate the skin from the breast meat by slowly sliding your hand between the meat and skin. Once you begin this process it is fairly simple but be careful not to tear the skin. Rub the mixture of butter and seasoning underneath the skin of the breast and then on the outside of the skin and the legs.

      Cover Brine

      Then we will use the remaining cure solution to cover our ham while we let it sit in the cooler overnight. We want this to be a 50% strength solution so our options are, either use the cure at the rate of 1 lb per gallon of water or we can weigh what we have leftover from our injection and add whatever it weighs in water so the cure would now be at a 50% strength solution.

      Note

      Next, it needs to be stuffed into a casing like Versanet so that it can then hung in the smokehouse. We like versanet as it is a plastic product that releases easily from the turkey after the smoking process and leaves a very nice checkered pattern on your turkey.

      Thermal Processing & Smoking

      1 Hour at 150° with no smoke or humidity
      1 Hour 160° and begin smoking and adding humidity
      175° until internal temperature reaches 165° (Figure 1/2 hour for each lb of turkey)

      Cooling

      Serve hot or let it cool for 1 hour at room temperature before moving it to the fridge for holding overnight before vacuum packing.

      Wrap up

      Now we have a beautiful homemade smoked turkey that is going to taste at least as good as anything bought in the store!

      Additional Tips

      • Add some baking powder to your rub if you want extra crispy skin (thanks Tex_77)
      • You can brine the turkey if you do not want to inject, just use full strength solution and hold for 3-4 days

      Watch WaltonsTV: Ham Basics

      Shop waltonsinc.com for Bratwurst Seasoning

      Shop waltonsinc.com for Meat Grinders

      Shop waltonsinc.com for High-Temp Cheese

      Shop waltonsinc.com for Boning Knives


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      Jonathon You actually want to use baking powder, not soda.

      Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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        #3

        Tex_77 Argh! I changed the information in the post.

        Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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          #4

          I’m using a salinometer for brine. What salt % would you recommend with a salinometer for a brine?

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            Also using an F. Dick stitch pump prior to submerging in brine.

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              I used this for a frozen breast that came with a brine solution already injected. It was too salty. Here is what I think was my mistake. I measured enough solution to inject for a 10% weight of the bird. I did not account for the giblet package nor the extra water weight that the drained from the bird when I took it out of the package.

              I am going in for another round and this time I subtracted the solution and the giblet package from the total weight needing to be injected. BTW- the water and giblets combined for 2 lbs of weight!

              Will post the outcome of this second bird

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                Jonathon
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                Garrisrp Calculating the amount of pump you add at 20% too much could absolutely give you an overly salty product, so I am curious to see if that is what it was. I also wonder what it might have been pumped with to start, did it mention what % it was pumped too? Commercial processors have been know to overpump hams if there was a miscalculation on the ppm of ongoing nitrites but I don’t think that would work in a situation like this.

                Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                  #8

                  30-35 degrees on the salinometer = 8-9% salinity at 60° Water temp. Comes out perfectly. Pumped and brined for 6 days, overnight in fresh water, smoked 12 hours, 165° Internal.

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                    Winner, winner chicken dinner! The second breast was noticeably less salty after I accounted for the extra weight of the excess salt water and giblet pack! Excellent flavor. It was almost, and I say almost cautiously, a tad on the salty side. Still curious I looked at the label as Johnathon suggested and found this:

                    Turkey Breast With Ribs, Back Portion, Wing Portion and Neck Skin Containing Approximately 19% Of A Solution Of Turkey Broth, Salt, Sodium Phosphate, Sugar, Flavoring. Gravy Packet Ingredients: Water, Gravy Seasoning (Dextrose, Food Starch-Modified, Rice Flour, Maltodextrin, Hydrolyzed Corn Protein, Rendered Chicken Fat, Salt, Onion Powder, Yeast Extract, Dehydrated Turkey Broth, Dehydrated Cooked Turkey, Xanthan Gum, Natural Flavors (Contains Torula Yeast), Spice, Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate).

                    It came with a 19% injection already!!! Boy this explains a lot! Thanks Johnathon for pointing me in that direction!

                    I just ordered a 11 lb lobe without it being already pumped and am going to cure this puppy using the exact recipe. I suspect it is going to turn out fantastic!

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