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    twilliams
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    wrote on last edited by twilliams
    #23

    After having to work a couple Saturdays in a row I am back to the skull today. Today is just merely a heated soak in a degreasing detergent. I am using an absolute clear Palmolive dishwashing detergent. I am gonna stay around 160* to not heat it back up too bad. Maybe keep it in for two hours. I watched videos on where they say they put the degreasing in at time of boiling to get flesh off and others say to soak it for three weeks in the detergent after the boiling and meat removal. The end results I seen from the videos gets it to the same point. The one video I am following mostly is using a 40% by volume cream peroxide developer by lightly brushing the peroxide on to whiten. Others are using regular peroxide and putting it in the original boiling water then soaking skull for 10-15 minutes. Not sure which is better, one step that is added by doing that method is it will bleach some of the antler so you need to stain it to match the antler color, maybe I will try the second skull the other way. I’m happy with results this far in the process.6922ADE5-0A45-434F-91D4-39C231D0D666.jpeg

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      I think you know this. Whichever whitener you use, be sure it doesn’t get on the antlers unless you want to get rid of their natural color. One time when i was practicing on a nothing special skull I had some bleach in the boil kettle and it got on the bases of the antlers.

      Paul

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        #25

        The inevitable happened, the main upper snout bones separated, don’t be alarmed I took off the lower snout bones. Glad I did, there was a lot of cartilage and meat between where they sit. It’s just a simple super glue to reinstall. I will also try to super glue where the upper snout separated to get them back together. Out sun drying right now and hopefully will get the peroxide applied before bedtime.9329C368-19D7-4A77-958B-25803390E88E.jpeg

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        • twilliamsT twilliams

          The inevitable happened, the main upper snout bones separated, don’t be alarmed I took off the lower snout bones. Glad I did, there was a lot of cartilage and meat between where they sit. It’s just a simple super glue to reinstall. I will also try to super glue where the upper snout separated to get them back together. Out sun drying right now and hopefully will get the peroxide applied before bedtime.9329C368-19D7-4A77-958B-25803390E88E.jpeg

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          bocephus
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          twilliams It is coming along nicely.

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            The hardest part behind you now.

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            • twilliamsT twilliams

              The inevitable happened, the main upper snout bones separated, don’t be alarmed I took off the lower snout bones. Glad I did, there was a lot of cartilage and meat between where they sit. It’s just a simple super glue to reinstall. I will also try to super glue where the upper snout separated to get them back together. Out sun drying right now and hopefully will get the peroxide applied before bedtime.9329C368-19D7-4A77-958B-25803390E88E.jpeg

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              twilliams I use the 40 volume clear liquid. That way it also bleaches inside the brain and nasal cavities.

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                twilliams I use the 40 volume clear liquid. That way it also bleaches inside the brain and nasal cavities.

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                cdavis ya I just seen that on another video I watched after I bought the cream….ugh

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                • twilliamsT twilliams

                  cdavis ya I just seen that on another video I watched after I bought the cream….ugh

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                  twilliams the cream still does a good job. You’ll do fine and it will turn out great 👍. I know how much attention you pay to detail 😉. You’ve got it looking good so far. Can’t wait to see the end product. Nice buck by the way. Congrats.

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                    #31

                    The two lower nose bones went back on nicely. Now taped the upper nose bones that split and super gluing inside to see if they will stay closed, if not that is ok as they did not split as wide as others I have seen, they did come back together a bit from the last photo I posted. The whitening is pretty decent, it’s not a super bright white that you would have with a soak bleaching and has some darker spots on it. I’m kinda digging it as it makes it look realistic in my opinion, I also left the teeth alone and did not bleach them a second time like the skull to remain it’s life like tarter line.8F06FF00-9896-469D-990A-09E2C53457D3.jpeg73F30D72-A883-459A-B0E8-3ED0D6CAAAC1.jpeg

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                    • twilliamsT twilliams

                      The two lower nose bones went back on nicely. Now taped the upper nose bones that split and super gluing inside to see if they will stay closed, if not that is ok as they did not split as wide as others I have seen, they did come back together a bit from the last photo I posted. The whitening is pretty decent, it’s not a super bright white that you would have with a soak bleaching and has some darker spots on it. I’m kinda digging it as it makes it look realistic in my opinion, I also left the teeth alone and did not bleach them a second time like the skull to remain it’s life like tarter line.8F06FF00-9896-469D-990A-09E2C53457D3.jpeg73F30D72-A883-459A-B0E8-3ED0D6CAAAC1.jpeg

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                      twilliams Looks good, Tim. Personally, I think too bleached white looks kind of unnatural.

                      Paul

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                      • twilliamsT twilliams

                        The two lower nose bones went back on nicely. Now taped the upper nose bones that split and super gluing inside to see if they will stay closed, if not that is ok as they did not split as wide as others I have seen, they did come back together a bit from the last photo I posted. The whitening is pretty decent, it’s not a super bright white that you would have with a soak bleaching and has some darker spots on it. I’m kinda digging it as it makes it look realistic in my opinion, I also left the teeth alone and did not bleach them a second time like the skull to remain it’s life like tarter line.8F06FF00-9896-469D-990A-09E2C53457D3.jpeg73F30D72-A883-459A-B0E8-3ED0D6CAAAC1.jpeg

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                        twilliams Very nice job.

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                        • twilliamsT twilliams

                          The two lower nose bones went back on nicely. Now taped the upper nose bones that split and super gluing inside to see if they will stay closed, if not that is ok as they did not split as wide as others I have seen, they did come back together a bit from the last photo I posted. The whitening is pretty decent, it’s not a super bright white that you would have with a soak bleaching and has some darker spots on it. I’m kinda digging it as it makes it look realistic in my opinion, I also left the teeth alone and did not bleach them a second time like the skull to remain it’s life like tarter line.8F06FF00-9896-469D-990A-09E2C53457D3.jpeg73F30D72-A883-459A-B0E8-3ED0D6CAAAC1.jpeg

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                          twilliams nice job

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                            Very happy with the skull so I am considering it complete. Upper nose bone at this point is closed up nicely and holding. Now to get started on the back drop to set it all off and make a complete piece of art……stay tuned4C663DAD-964F-4B12-8C50-5EB3F37FD0A7.jpeg 9EDA5BFE-DDD4-44E5-912B-3B963DDFE046.jpeg 9B1102B4-A1AD-4EF9-B3A9-0EB284E48436.jpeg

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                            • twilliamsT twilliams

                              Very happy with the skull so I am considering it complete. Upper nose bone at this point is closed up nicely and holding. Now to get started on the back drop to set it all off and make a complete piece of art……stay tuned4C663DAD-964F-4B12-8C50-5EB3F37FD0A7.jpeg 9EDA5BFE-DDD4-44E5-912B-3B963DDFE046.jpeg 9B1102B4-A1AD-4EF9-B3A9-0EB284E48436.jpeg

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                              twilliams Sure is looking good.

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                              • twilliamsT twilliams

                                Very happy with the skull so I am considering it complete. Upper nose bone at this point is closed up nicely and holding. Now to get started on the back drop to set it all off and make a complete piece of art……stay tuned4C663DAD-964F-4B12-8C50-5EB3F37FD0A7.jpeg 9EDA5BFE-DDD4-44E5-912B-3B963DDFE046.jpeg 9B1102B4-A1AD-4EF9-B3A9-0EB284E48436.jpeg

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                                twilliams
                                You’re being very meticulous. Looks outstanding.👍

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                                  twilliams
                                  You’re being very meticulous. Looks outstanding.👍

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                                  PapaSop unfortunately, some call it particular, some call it attention to detail, I call it a n a l and a perfectionist. Some times a good trait sometimes very bad….lol

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                                    PapaSop unfortunately, some call it particular, some call it attention to detail, I call it a n a l and a perfectionist. Some times a good trait sometimes very bad….lol

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                                    twilliams said in The work begins:

                                    PapaSop unfortunately, some call it particular, some call it attention to detail, I call it a n a l and a perfectionist. Some times a good trait sometimes very bad….lol

                                    Nothing wrong with any of those descriptions. Do your thing! Awesome!

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                                      PapaSop unfortunately, some call it particular, some call it attention to detail, I call it a n a l and a perfectionist. Some times a good trait sometimes very bad….lol

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                                      twilliams I believe you and I are the same caliber when it comes to the descriptions, at least according to my wife. Too fussy and critical of my own work, that I am not happy unless it turns out perfect.

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                                        Very happy with the skull so I am considering it complete. Upper nose bone at this point is closed up nicely and holding. Now to get started on the back drop to set it all off and make a complete piece of art……stay tuned4C663DAD-964F-4B12-8C50-5EB3F37FD0A7.jpeg 9EDA5BFE-DDD4-44E5-912B-3B963DDFE046.jpeg 9B1102B4-A1AD-4EF9-B3A9-0EB284E48436.jpeg

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                                        twilliams this looks so good! I have a skull from my first home beef harvest. I buried it and dig it up after a couple of months. The critters did the cleaning, but you don’t end up with that nice white color. I think both ways look cool though. I’ve still got to put a finish on mine, but I like the natural look ok.
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                                        • twilliamsT twilliams

                                          Very happy with the skull so I am considering it complete. Upper nose bone at this point is closed up nicely and holding. Now to get started on the back drop to set it all off and make a complete piece of art……stay tuned4C663DAD-964F-4B12-8C50-5EB3F37FD0A7.jpeg 9EDA5BFE-DDD4-44E5-912B-3B963DDFE046.jpeg 9B1102B4-A1AD-4EF9-B3A9-0EB284E48436.jpeg

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                                          twilliams it turned out great. Congrats 👍

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