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  • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

    cdavis thx again, you are always very kind 😉
    I loaded it all on some jerky grids in the fridge to dry a bit, no wrapping. Hoping my wife isn’t mad tomorrow when the fridge smells smoky…

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    Dave in AZ I love that smell. I bet she’ll let you slide 😏.

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    • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

      cdavis thx again, you are always very kind 😉
      I loaded it all on some jerky grids in the fridge to dry a bit, no wrapping. Hoping my wife isn’t mad tomorrow when the fridge smells smoky…

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      Dave in AZ be sure to let me know the difference in taste and texture after the drying.

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      • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

        Made kabanosy today. Marianski called it “the best meat stick in the world,” in his book. So that got me interested.
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        I used the recipe in Marianski’s book “Home Production of Quality Meats and Sausages”. It is pretty simple: pork, 1.8% salt, 0.25% cure1, 0.2% black pepper, 0.1% each of sugar, nutmeg and caraway. 10% water. So for 1000g meat, that is 18g salt, 2g pepper etc.
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        Recipe uses sheep casings, but I used 21-23mm fresh collagen casings, which are the closest thing to actual sheep casings. I was happy with the Walton’s casings, very delicate. Here they are at top, next to some pepperoni 19mm sticks I also made tonight, to compare casings. Both thru a 12.7mm or half inch tube.
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        Short cook, 60 min light smoke then 30 min at higher temp to 155-160 IT. I used my pretty new Smokin It 3.5 smoker with about 2oz of cherry wood. Unfortunately I trusted the smokers meat probe and pulled it at 161f. Got inside and crosschecked with 3 Thermoworks digital thermometers, all at 132 f 😞 So lesson learned, don’t trust the smoker probe and always crosscheck. Had to put it all back on and cook another 1.5 hrs.
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        Taste is good and interesting. Apparently you dry these out a bit, about a week is supposed to be where most like them. Not sure I’d say they were better than beef venison sticks with Willie’s seasoning. But they are pretty unique and I never made a 100% pork stick before. I will report after a week or so in fridge drying a bit.

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        Dave in AZ when I made them I used the recipe that mrobisr posted. I did use venison and pork in mine. I think I let mine go 5 days in the fridge (i would have to look back at the kabanosy thread to be sure). I was very happy with the taste as was everyone else that tried them. The taste does get better as they dry. Good job

        hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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        • kyleK kyle

          Dave in AZ when I made them I used the recipe that mrobisr posted. I did use venison and pork in mine. I think I let mine go 5 days in the fridge (i would have to look back at the kabanosy thread to be sure). I was very happy with the taste as was everyone else that tried them. The taste does get better as they dry. Good job

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          kyle thx kyle! Yep, same recipe exactly, and it is a good one. That meatandsausages site
          meatandsausages dot com, is pretty much Marianski’s book transcribed to web. It is the english version of original polish site that Marianski and originalfounder developed. To me, I think it’s one of the best recipe sources on internet, and bought the book version too.

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          • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

            kyle thx kyle! Yep, same recipe exactly, and it is a good one. That meatandsausages site
            meatandsausages dot com, is pretty much Marianski’s book transcribed to web. It is the english version of original polish site that Marianski and originalfounder developed. To me, I think it’s one of the best recipe sources on internet, and bought the book version too.

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            Dave in AZ I’m going to try those. They almost look like a keibasa stick. Is the taste anywhere similar?

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            • wdalyW wdaly

              Dave in AZ I’m going to try those. They almost look like a keibasa stick. Is the taste anywhere similar?

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              wdaly I’ve made kielbasa or hot smoked polish sausage, using Marianski’s recipe. And he is all about polish sausage. That was basically pepper, garlic, and marjoram. These things have the same salty pork base flavor, but this nutmeg caraway is just a new unexpected flavor I’ve never encountered before. Quite good. But yes, closer to kielbasa than they are to slim jims 😉

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                I’ve always been a fan of beef, deer or elk in meet sticks. Does Marianski have any recipes on those?

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                Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                • Denny OD Denny O

                  I’ve always been a fan of beef, deer or elk in meet sticks. Does Marianski have any recipes on those?

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                  Denny O when I made kabanosy, I did a 15 pound batch. Did 10 pork butt and 5 pounds venison. Turned out great

                  hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                  • kyleK kyle

                    Denny O when I made kabanosy, I did a 15 pound batch. Did 10 pork butt and 5 pounds venison. Turned out great

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                    kyle said in Kabanosy - Polish snack stick w pork, nutmeg, caraway:

                    Denny O when I made kabanosy, I did a 15 pound batch. Did 10 pork butt and 5 pounds venison. Turned out great

                    Klle, my Summer sausage is 18lbs deer, 3lbs pork butt and 3lbs smoked pepper cheese, then water and seasonings desolved in the water then mixed inbefore stuffing.

                    Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                    I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                    Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                    • Denny OD Denny O

                      kyle said in Kabanosy - Polish snack stick w pork, nutmeg, caraway:

                      Denny O when I made kabanosy, I did a 15 pound batch. Did 10 pork butt and 5 pounds venison. Turned out great

                      Klle, my Summer sausage is 18lbs deer, 3lbs pork butt and 3lbs smoked pepper cheese, then water and seasonings desolved in the water then mixed inbefore stuffing.

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                      Denny O pretty much the only time I see summer sausage is at deer camp every year, so it is always venison. In my mind, summer sausage is synonymous with venison! 😉
                      But I do like venison in beef snack sticks also.

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                      • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                        Denny O pretty much the only time I see summer sausage is at deer camp every year, so it is always venison. In my mind, summer sausage is synonymous with venison! 😉
                        But I do like venison in beef snack sticks also.

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                        Dave in AZ Mine is most always made from deer unless I run out early and need to make more using beef. Honestly most will not know the difference at all.

                        Denny O’s-Smokey Bones
                        I’d rather be sit’in in a boat and thinking about God,
                        Than sit’n in church and thinking about fish’in!

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                        • cdavisC cdavis

                          Dave in AZ I love that smell. I bet she’ll let you slide 😏.

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                          cdavis said in Kabanosy - Polish snack stick w pork, nutmeg, caraway:

                          Dave in AZ I love that smell. I bet she’ll let you slide 😏.

                          I’m down to my last 3 sticks 😞 I did leave them out to dry on counter, Phoenix humidity like 19% humidity, so 10 to 15% inside. I can’t overstress how much 3 to 5 days of good drying improves these. Before they are like a mini kielbasa, after they are a unique snack stick.
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                          • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                            cdavis said in Kabanosy - Polish snack stick w pork, nutmeg, caraway:

                            Dave in AZ I love that smell. I bet she’ll let you slide 😏.

                            I’m down to my last 3 sticks 😞 I did leave them out to dry on counter, Phoenix humidity like 19% humidity, so 10 to 15% inside. I can’t overstress how much 3 to 5 days of good drying improves these. Before they are like a mini kielbasa, after they are a unique snack stick.
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                            Dave in AZ they look good. So after the smoke and cook, you just left them out on the counter?

                            hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                            • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                              cdavis said in Kabanosy - Polish snack stick w pork, nutmeg, caraway:

                              Dave in AZ I love that smell. I bet she’ll let you slide 😏.

                              I’m down to my last 3 sticks 😞 I did leave them out to dry on counter, Phoenix humidity like 19% humidity, so 10 to 15% inside. I can’t overstress how much 3 to 5 days of good drying improves these. Before they are like a mini kielbasa, after they are a unique snack stick.
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                              Dave in AZ Wow that looks good.

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                              • mrobisrM mrobisr

                                Dave in AZ Wow that looks good.

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                                mrobisr I would be very happy if mine turned out like that. I must say tho, the ones I made tasted great. Looking forward to a response from dave on how he did it

                                hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                • kyleK kyle

                                  mrobisr I would be very happy if mine turned out like that. I must say tho, the ones I made tasted great. Looking forward to a response from dave on how he did it

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                                  kyle The beat ones so far are the ones that I put in my drying chamber for 7 days and then let dry in the fridge for a couple weeks. Don’t get me wrong the ones I’m eating on now are fantastic, but those dried ones are just heavenly.

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                                  • mrobisrM mrobisr

                                    kyle The beat ones so far are the ones that I put in my drying chamber for 7 days and then let dry in the fridge for a couple weeks. Don’t get me wrong the ones I’m eating on now are fantastic, but those dried ones are just heavenly.

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                                    mrobisr I really need to get a drying chamber, or have you move to northern wi so I can use yours😉

                                    hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                    • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                                      cdavis said in Kabanosy - Polish snack stick w pork, nutmeg, caraway:

                                      Dave in AZ I love that smell. I bet she’ll let you slide 😏.

                                      I’m down to my last 3 sticks 😞 I did leave them out to dry on counter, Phoenix humidity like 19% humidity, so 10 to 15% inside. I can’t overstress how much 3 to 5 days of good drying improves these. Before they are like a mini kielbasa, after they are a unique snack stick.
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                                      Dave in AZ as kyle mentioned they do get better with some drying. Growing up the market would just have them hanging behind the counter drying. I prefer them dried a bit 5-7 days and stuffed in sheep casings but have made them in collagen

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                                      • kyleK kyle

                                        mrobisr I really need to get a drying chamber, or have you move to northern wi so I can use yours😉

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                                        kyle As hot as it is I might second the me coming to you.

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                                        • kyleK kyle

                                          Dave in AZ they look good. So after the smoke and cook, you just left them out on the counter?

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                                          kyle When I made these, I actually left them exposed in fridge drying for 4 days. So they were already pretty stable. Maybe lost 10% weight? Tasted good. But… that was a serious mistake for my main fridge lol!!

                                          Then I froze a gallon bag of them to keep. Upon thaw, the casings were moist again and loose in some spots.

                                          So I just put on counter, 76 f but 10% humidity indoors in Phoenix. They were plenty stable for it, just from look feel and taste as I snacked on them. After 2 days they were more like salami than meat stick. So 6 or 7 days total dry, 4 in fridge to get them safe to leave out.

                                          Next batch, I will do lethality treatment up to 150 or so per tables, light smoke just 30 min, then I will leave them at 130f in smoker to dry for a day maybe.

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