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  • JonathonJ Jonathon

    Austin likes to rub regular yellow mustard all over his first. If you are going to use something then this is what I would use as the taste cooks completely out of it. Still, I’ve never had the need for it!

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    Jonathon raider2119
    When I use a seasoning rub, most people would tell me I over season it, but I feel like I am doing the proper amount. I find that using mustard allows me to put even more seasoning on something, so that is why I do it. Usually only on large and thick pieces of meat like a pork butt though. I haven’t really compared the difference on the bark thickness though, so I’ll have to test that next time.

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      Jonathon raider2119
      When I use a seasoning rub, most people would tell me I over season it, but I feel like I am doing the proper amount. I find that using mustard allows me to put even more seasoning on something, so that is why I do it. Usually only on large and thick pieces of meat like a pork butt though. I haven’t really compared the difference on the bark thickness though, so I’ll have to test that next time.

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      Austin I will use a brown or Dijon mustard if I have them on hand for any larger but of beef or pork for the same reason. Horseradish also works well on beef.

      Better Living Through BBQ!

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      • AustinA Austin

        Jonathon raider2119
        When I use a seasoning rub, most people would tell me I over season it, but I feel like I am doing the proper amount. I find that using mustard allows me to put even more seasoning on something, so that is why I do it. Usually only on large and thick pieces of meat like a pork butt though. I haven’t really compared the difference on the bark thickness though, so I’ll have to test that next time.

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        Austin the website smoking meat.com uses yellow mustard before seasoning almost always

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        • R raypete

          raypete if you cook and chill (place the cooked product in Ice water for at least 20 mins) a piece of meat and retherm at a lower temperature you only have to reheat to around 129 degrees, that where your taste buds will feel comfortable at. During the chill process the meat will rest and retain the juices. So when you retherm at a lower cooking temp you haven’t introduced recooking to make the juices move. Then when you slice it you won’t have liquid on the plate to ruin a sauce you made.

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          raypete I have a leg of lamb in the Sous Vide going on 24 hours now. Patted dry and added crushed garlic, cracked pepper rosemary and zero salt. I’ll finish on the Pit Boss just to give it a kiss of smoke

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            Joe Hell How long did you end up Sous Videing it and how was it?

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            • JonathonJ Jonathon

              Joe Hell How long did you end up Sous Videing it and how was it?

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              Jonathon I went 24 hours at 130 before pulling it. I then salted and went to the pit boss until it hit 138. The meat turned out great. I only had a couple of bites before I gave it to my folks. The little bit that I had was very tender and packed with flavor. For my dinner I participated in one of two sausage tastings on the day with six different fresh sausages and grilled some chipotle seasoned wings that I finished with scorpion chili honey. It was a good day!

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              • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                Jonathon I went 24 hours at 130 before pulling it. I then salted and went to the pit boss until it hit 138. The meat turned out great. I only had a couple of bites before I gave it to my folks. The little bit that I had was very tender and packed with flavor. For my dinner I participated in one of two sausage tastings on the day with six different fresh sausages and grilled some chipotle seasoned wings that I finished with scorpion chili honey. It was a good day!

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                Joe Hell Jonathon So I currently have a sirloin tip roast sous videing, I pre-seared it as I saw some websites called for presearing the roast (Chef Steps), has anyone else done this, is it a necessary step? I’ll have to report in after I get home tonight, I plan to sear it again once I remove it from the sous vide.

                Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                • Tex_77T Tex_77

                  Joe Hell Jonathon So I currently have a sirloin tip roast sous videing, I pre-seared it as I saw some websites called for presearing the roast (Chef Steps), has anyone else done this, is it a necessary step? I’ll have to report in after I get home tonight, I plan to sear it again once I remove it from the sous vide.

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                  Tex_77 I haven’t tried that method but I have seen it referenced. I can’t imagine it not adding extra flavor though. After a quick search online it seems there is great debate on the subject with no definitive answers. lol

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                  • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                    Tex_77 I haven’t tried that method but I have seen it referenced. I can’t imagine it not adding extra flavor though. After a quick search online it seems there is great debate on the subject with no definitive answers. lol

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                    Joe Hell well here’s the results. It was tasty and fork tender!
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                    Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                      Tex_77 first, those looks awesome! I have no idea which side of the pre searing before sous vide I am on. On one hand the whole reverse sear method has proved to be far superior to older methods, so not searing before the cook makes sense. However, when sous vide cooking I have noticed that more juice ends up in the bag than I would have expected, could a pre seat help lock the juice in?

                      Austin is away so I’m thinking next Monday or Tuesday is ribeyes or kcs for lunch!!

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                      • Tex_77T Tex_77

                        Joe Hell well here’s the results. It was tasty and fork tender!
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                        Tex_77 that’s looks perfect!

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                        • JonathonJ Jonathon

                          Tex_77 first, those looks awesome! I have no idea which side of the pre searing before sous vide I am on. On one hand the whole reverse sear method has proved to be far superior to older methods, so not searing before the cook makes sense. However, when sous vide cooking I have noticed that more juice ends up in the bag than I would have expected, could a pre seat help lock the juice in?

                          Austin is away so I’m thinking next Monday or Tuesday is ribeyes or kcs for lunch!!

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                          Jonathon I’d go for both!

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                          • JonathonJ Jonathon

                            Tex_77 first, those looks awesome! I have no idea which side of the pre searing before sous vide I am on. On one hand the whole reverse sear method has proved to be far superior to older methods, so not searing before the cook makes sense. However, when sous vide cooking I have noticed that more juice ends up in the bag than I would have expected, could a pre seat help lock the juice in?

                            Austin is away so I’m thinking next Monday or Tuesday is ribeyes or kcs for lunch!!

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                            Jonathon So did you have your ribeye of kcs for lunch yet?

                            Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                              Tex_77 Neither yet, but it IS coming! Yesterday I had the BEST smoked wings I have ever had made by our retail store manager! I will be doing an entire video/article on these. I’m not kidding with how good they were, if you want to see them check out our Instagram story. The key, at least he thinks, was raising them off the grill with a raised rack and using a combination of seasonings. We dont have all of the seasonings available for purchase, YET so I will wait to name them. The final thing we did was toss them with Captain Rodney’s Boucan Sauce and it was delicious!

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                              • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                Tex_77 Neither yet, but it IS coming! Yesterday I had the BEST smoked wings I have ever had made by our retail store manager! I will be doing an entire video/article on these. I’m not kidding with how good they were, if you want to see them check out our Instagram story. The key, at least he thinks, was raising them off the grill with a raised rack and using a combination of seasonings. We dont have all of the seasonings available for purchase, YET so I will wait to name them. The final thing we did was toss them with Captain Rodney’s Boucan Sauce and it was delicious!

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                                Jonathon I’ll have to check it out. My wife is on me to make some wings with the Kosmos Wing Dust I have.

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                                  Tex_77 Those things are really good, the garlic parm especially which is weird because I don’t normally like Garlic Parmesan wings! Pricey when you look at it first but then you realize per oz it’s not that bad, I just think those small bags make it look like you’re getting less than you really are.

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                                    And since I am constantly asking for people to post their pics, I figure it is only fair to post this, now it is a still taken from a video on a phone so don’t judge it too harshly!IMG_20190917_145216.jpg

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                                    • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                      Tex_77 Those things are really good, the garlic parm especially which is weird because I don’t normally like Garlic Parmesan wings! Pricey when you look at it first but then you realize per oz it’s not that bad, I just think those small bags make it look like you’re getting less than you really are.

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                                      Jonathon I agree, but I picked up several of the larger bags, before they went to the smaller bags at the same price of the big bags.

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                                      • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                        Tex_77 Neither yet, but it IS coming! Yesterday I had the BEST smoked wings I have ever had made by our retail store manager! I will be doing an entire video/article on these. I’m not kidding with how good they were, if you want to see them check out our Instagram story. The key, at least he thinks, was raising them off the grill with a raised rack and using a combination of seasonings. We dont have all of the seasonings available for purchase, YET so I will wait to name them. The final thing we did was toss them with Captain Rodney’s Boucan Sauce and it was delicious!

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                                        Jonathon Oh nooo… I know that story oh too well… When I had my restaurant I started mixing up a combination of things to make a “house” salad dressing… What I ended up with was about a gallon of some of the most incredible pork marinade you will never have the opportunity to taste…

                                        By the time I got done adding and tweaking and adding a bit more of this and that, I totally lost track of the recipe and will never be able to duplicate it again…

                                        Every customer that tried it swore the pork sandwiches and chops I made with were DA BOMB… and every last one of them returned with re-orders… Unfortunately the recipe that could have been my signature dish… my ticket to Emeril or Bobby Flay level stardom is lost, never to be re-created again…

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                                          raider2119 I’d say test test test until you can recreate but sometimes it’s like lightning in a bottle and just can’t be done! Luckily ours only had 4 total ingredients but sadly I don’t think he weighed out how much of each, he just sort of eyeballed it.

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