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What's your next Meat Project?

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  • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

    Dave in AZ Maltose is 100% fermentable, it’s made from malt sugar the same product you make beer wort from in the dry form. The sugar content is lower than dextrose as well as the sweetness. It is malted barley that has been processed into wort and then dried. I am a brewer and distiller as well as meat processor.

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    • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

      Ridley Acres said in What's your next Meat Project?:

      Next meat project is to figure out what to do with the tainted 15 month old boar I have hanging in my garage “aging” since Christmas day. I pan fried a bit of the loin in a cast iron skillet and and he stunk up the whole house. I am leaning towards trying to marinate some whole muscle jerky in something like Braggs liquid aminos, a generous portion of garlic, likely something spicy, followed by a good long cold smoke till dry.

      Ok so this carcass ended up aging in my very cold garage for about 2.5 months. It was skin on and the hair mostly scraped. The carcass was split in half. Once outside temps started nearing consistent 40’s I trimmed off the funky parts and was left with about 12lbs of belly and 4 - 2gal bags full of trimmed meat.

      I salt cured and lightly cold smoked the belly portions in 1lb chunks. I used salt (2.5% of weight) only mainly because I didn’t want to waste good seasonings on suspect product. Then cold smoked for a few hours until the pellets (Hickory) swelled from rain in my diy smoke generator and choked itself out. Sliced and fried up a chunk…totally different flavor. The aging gave it a nice tang, and the wife actually really liked. Several times she said it was really, really good. There was a very faint taint smell, but only if you really get your face close up to the pan while cooking, and I would say only if you knew the smell could you identify it. Or maybe I was paranoid.

      The plan for the trimmed meat is to give pepperoni a shot. But due to the aging, I will need to monitor ph and water activity.

      The recipe I planned to use is here:
      Ingredients per 1000g (1 kg) of meat
      salt 28 g (5 tsp.)
      Cure #2 2.5 g (½ tsp.)
      dextrose (glucose), 0.2% 2.0 g (⅓ tsp.)
      sugar 3.0 g (⅓ tsp.)
      black pepper 3.0 g (1½ tsp.)
      paprika 6.0 g (3 tsp.)
      anise seeds, cracked, (or fennel seeds) 2.5 g (2 tsp.)
      cayenne pepper 2.0 g (1 tsp.)
      T-SPX culture 0.12 g use scale

      I’m looking for a good alternative to dextrose that is locally obtainable.
      Also, what are the most economical options for measure of ph and water activity for home sausage maker?

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      Ridley Acres To my knowledge there just is not and economical water meter available for the home processor, but weighing your meat is a very good alternative. I just finished some salami and dried it to 40% weight loss (accidental) but that number is very accurate and dependable.

      PH testing can be done by strips so some say, but others say for meat it is not accurate enough, so I went with Apera, but at $200.00 that is a lot to ask for the occasional user.

      T-SPX likes both mono and di sugars, so you should use a combination of table sugar and dextrose, but if you cannot find dextrose then invert some table sugar which will form glucose and fructose and that will solve the sugar problem very easily.

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      • mrobisrM mrobisr

        Ridley Acres To my knowledge there just is not and economical water meter available for the home processor, but weighing your meat is a very good alternative. I just finished some salami and dried it to 40% weight loss (accidental) but that number is very accurate and dependable.

        PH testing can be done by strips so some say, but others say for meat it is not accurate enough, so I went with Apera, but at $200.00 that is a lot to ask for the occasional user.

        T-SPX likes both mono and di sugars, so you should use a combination of table sugar and dextrose, but if you cannot find dextrose then invert some table sugar which will form glucose and fructose and that will solve the sugar problem very easily.

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        mrobisr I am calling this meat experimental as its already been dry aged for 2.5 months in my uninsulated/unheated Wisconsin garage. Due to the age it doesn’t have as much moisture as it would fresh so I am not thinking the traditional weigh method will be as reliable. I’ll follow the recipe and process to the “T” and very closely monitor my temp/humid levels in the chamber. I’ll hold for the prescribed duration, but perhaps I can connect with someone locally for testing the safety…otherwise I’ll do the old world method. Sample and wait a couple days before the rest of the family tried it.

        I did end up just ordering some dextrose since it’ll be a few days before I can get started.

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        • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

          mrobisr I am calling this meat experimental as its already been dry aged for 2.5 months in my uninsulated/unheated Wisconsin garage. Due to the age it doesn’t have as much moisture as it would fresh so I am not thinking the traditional weigh method will be as reliable. I’ll follow the recipe and process to the “T” and very closely monitor my temp/humid levels in the chamber. I’ll hold for the prescribed duration, but perhaps I can connect with someone locally for testing the safety…otherwise I’ll do the old world method. Sample and wait a couple days before the rest of the family tried it.

          I did end up just ordering some dextrose since it’ll be a few days before I can get started.

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          Ridley Acres Ya know, you could invite someone outside the family to taste test FIRST. Yes, I’m smiling.

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          • ND MikeN ND Mike

            It’s been a while since I have posted…been pretty busy. Saturday I actually had some time to make some brats. Made 12.5 lbs of jalapeño popper brats and 12.5 lbs of Supreme pizza brats.

            I added 1 lb of frozen chopped up cream cheese, 1 oz of extra jalapeño flakes, and 1 lb of par cooked bacon. Haven’t sampled the brat off the grill yet but the test patty was good. They will be too hot for my kids though.

            The Supreme pizza brat I added 1 lb of high temp mozzarella and 1 lb of pepperoni in the stick form. I just did a course grind on the pepperoni. The test patty from this was amazing!!! My kids loved it as did I. This would be great with some pizza sauce and some extra mozzarella on a bun then toasted in the oven!!!
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            ND Mike man those brats look great 👍

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              Here is my project for next weekend. Prime brisket from sams.20220410_230633.jpg

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              • samspadeS samspade

                Here is my project for next weekend. Prime brisket from sams.20220410_230633.jpg

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                samspade can’t wait to see it. Good luck 👍

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                • samspadeS samspade

                  Here is my project for next weekend. Prime brisket from sams.20220410_230633.jpg

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                  samspade Prime briskets are the best! Knock on wood, I haven’t gotten a bad one yet.

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                  • cdavisC cdavis

                    ND Mike man those brats look great 👍

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                    cdavis had some for supper last night and they were great!

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                    • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

                      samspade Prime briskets are the best! Knock on wood, I haven’t gotten a bad one yet.

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                      HerbcoFood Guess I’m too cheap to buy the prime, in the past I only cooked with packer briskets, but since finding wildfork I can buy the choice at the same price as the packers. Maybe I’ll get there one day.

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                      • mrobisrM mrobisr

                        HerbcoFood Guess I’m too cheap to buy the prime, in the past I only cooked with packer briskets, but since finding wildfork I can buy the choice at the same price as the packers. Maybe I’ll get there one day.

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                        mrobisr I’m too cheap to buy the prime too! But I bought a packer at costco for 3.99 a lb, and when I got it home discovered it was prime lol. That’s way better than the 7 and $8 per lb I see choice for at Commissary and Frys and Safeway!

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                          Ok! Here are the results.trimed my prime brisket (Thanks SAMS Club.) Coated with brown sugar, salt and pepper, garlic and onion powder and let sit in the fridge overnight. Put in my Meatstick thermometers and placed the point on top rack and the flat underneath . Ran a pecan smoke over the cuts for three hours and then continued at 220 until the point and flat hit and cubed it for burnt ends. Wrapped the flat in butcher paper and waited through the stall till internal hit 204. Rested the flat in a towel for 30 minutes. I just couldnt wait. Served with beans and potatoe salad. HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE.
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                          • samspadeS samspade

                            Ok! Here are the results.trimed my prime brisket (Thanks SAMS Club.) Coated with brown sugar, salt and pepper, garlic and onion powder and let sit in the fridge overnight. Put in my Meatstick thermometers and placed the point on top rack and the flat underneath . Ran a pecan smoke over the cuts for three hours and then continued at 220 until the point and flat hit and cubed it for burnt ends. Wrapped the flat in butcher paper and waited through the stall till internal hit 204. Rested the flat in a towel for 30 minutes. I just couldnt wait. Served with beans and potatoe salad. HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE.
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                            samspade looks awesome. I bet it was a happy Easter at your place with that chunk of goodness

                            hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                            • kyleK kyle

                              samspade looks awesome. I bet it was a happy Easter at your place with that chunk of goodness

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                              kyle yep we pigged out. Mostly on the burnt ends waiting for the flat.

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                              • samspadeS samspade

                                Ok! Here are the results.trimed my prime brisket (Thanks SAMS Club.) Coated with brown sugar, salt and pepper, garlic and onion powder and let sit in the fridge overnight. Put in my Meatstick thermometers and placed the point on top rack and the flat underneath . Ran a pecan smoke over the cuts for three hours and then continued at 220 until the point and flat hit and cubed it for burnt ends. Wrapped the flat in butcher paper and waited through the stall till internal hit 204. Rested the flat in a towel for 30 minutes. I just couldnt wait. Served with beans and potatoe salad. HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE.
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                                samspade looks so good! Now I want to cook one!

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                                  samspade Yep, you had me at the photo of the burnt ends. Looks great.

                                  Paul

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                                  • samspadeS samspade

                                    Ok! Here are the results.trimed my prime brisket (Thanks SAMS Club.) Coated with brown sugar, salt and pepper, garlic and onion powder and let sit in the fridge overnight. Put in my Meatstick thermometers and placed the point on top rack and the flat underneath . Ran a pecan smoke over the cuts for three hours and then continued at 220 until the point and flat hit and cubed it for burnt ends. Wrapped the flat in butcher paper and waited through the stall till internal hit 204. Rested the flat in a towel for 30 minutes. I just couldnt wait. Served with beans and potatoe salad. HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE.
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                                    samspade Looks perfectly cooked to the easy slicing stage

                                    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
                                    Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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                                    • samspadeS samspade

                                      Ok! Here are the results.trimed my prime brisket (Thanks SAMS Club.) Coated with brown sugar, salt and pepper, garlic and onion powder and let sit in the fridge overnight. Put in my Meatstick thermometers and placed the point on top rack and the flat underneath . Ran a pecan smoke over the cuts for three hours and then continued at 220 until the point and flat hit and cubed it for burnt ends. Wrapped the flat in butcher paper and waited through the stall till internal hit 204. Rested the flat in a towel for 30 minutes. I just couldnt wait. Served with beans and potatoe salad. HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE.
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                                      samspade I think it was Meathead on the Amazing Ribs site that coined a term I always remember to describe the perfect stage of done-ness for a brisket .
                                      Meathead called it the “WubbaWabba” texture that describes when the tough connective collagen tissue throughout a brisket breaks down from the sustained moist heat into a soft gelatinous goo. Stick a fork in it when it done and it goes Wubbawabba. Love it.

                                      Paul

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                                      • samspadeS samspade

                                        Ok! Here are the results.trimed my prime brisket (Thanks SAMS Club.) Coated with brown sugar, salt and pepper, garlic and onion powder and let sit in the fridge overnight. Put in my Meatstick thermometers and placed the point on top rack and the flat underneath . Ran a pecan smoke over the cuts for three hours and then continued at 220 until the point and flat hit and cubed it for burnt ends. Wrapped the flat in butcher paper and waited through the stall till internal hit 204. Rested the flat in a towel for 30 minutes. I just couldnt wait. Served with beans and potatoe salad. HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE.
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                                        20220417_100909.jpg 20220417_200237.jpg 20220417_213250.jpg

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                                        samspade Lovin’ some burnt ends. All the rest of the pics were good. But, my taste buds kept stopping at the pan of burnt ends. LOL

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                                        • samspadeS samspade

                                          Ok! Here are the results.trimed my prime brisket (Thanks SAMS Club.) Coated with brown sugar, salt and pepper, garlic and onion powder and let sit in the fridge overnight. Put in my Meatstick thermometers and placed the point on top rack and the flat underneath . Ran a pecan smoke over the cuts for three hours and then continued at 220 until the point and flat hit and cubed it for burnt ends. Wrapped the flat in butcher paper and waited through the stall till internal hit 204. Rested the flat in a towel for 30 minutes. I just couldnt wait. Served with beans and potatoe salad. HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE.
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                                          20220417_100909.jpg 20220417_200237.jpg 20220417_213250.jpg

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                                          samspade thats a thing a beauty, especially those burnt ends.

                                          “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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