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  • Dave in AZD Offline
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    Dave in AZ
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    Question… do hog rings work much better than just tying the end with string? What is their advantage, speed?

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    • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

      Question… do hog rings work much better than just tying the end with string? What is their advantage, speed?

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      Dave in AZ said in Summer sausage:

      Question… do hog rings work much better than just tying the end with string? What is their advantage, speed?

      Yes to both. Be advised though, the 3/8 ring works well for SS. The 1/2 ring not so much. You would have to double over the end.

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      • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

        Question… do hog rings work much better than just tying the end with string? What is their advantage, speed?

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        Dave in AZ said in Summer sausage:

        Question… do hog rings work much better than just tying the end with string? What is their advantage, speed?

        I think hog rings also allow a tighter stuff than tying with string as well, particularly if you are working alone.

        Paul

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        • processheadP processhead

          Dave in AZ said in Summer sausage:

          Question… do hog rings work much better than just tying the end with string? What is their advantage, speed?

          I think hog rings also allow a tighter stuff than tying with string as well, particularly if you are working alone.

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          processhead I agree on working alone, disagree when working with a partner. But like I said my hog rings don’t get tight, I need to look at the size to see if I am using the wrong ones, however there was only one size to choose from when I bought the pliers. Didn’t know there were different sizes available

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          • twilliamsT twilliams

            processhead I agree on working alone, disagree when working with a partner. But like I said my hog rings don’t get tight, I need to look at the size to see if I am using the wrong ones, however there was only one size to choose from when I bought the pliers. Didn’t know there were different sizes available

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            twilliams said in Summer sausage:

            processhead I agree on working alone, disagree when working with a partner. But like I said my hog rings don’t get tight, I need to look at the size to see if I am using the wrong ones, however there was only one size to choose from when I bought the pliers. Didn’t know there were different sizes available

            What PapaSop said earlier was correct.
            The small 3/8 inch hog rings get a good grip on summer sausage casings and meat bags. The large 1/2 inch ones are only good for ham-stockinettes and other bulky casings.
            I haven’t had much success in getting the large ones to overlap for a tighter grip.
            Not sure why Walton’s is not stocking the 3/8 inch ones. Jonathon ?

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            Paul

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              twilliams I have never used the old school pliers, only the auto-style and have never had an issue closing off a casing with those styles. We used to have a 3/8 in all of our processing videos https://youtu.be/dTv_Cg5feNw?t=334 for the older style and https://youtu.be/PYd-A3hfU14?t=150 sorry, i was looking for one where we got a close up shot of the newer ones but don’t seem to have it. These are all 1/2" and they seem to work fine for me. Now, if people want them we are willing to try to get the 3/8" though? Is it something that people would want?

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                twilliams I have never used the old school pliers, only the auto-style and have never had an issue closing off a casing with those styles. We used to have a 3/8 in all of our processing videos https://youtu.be/dTv_Cg5feNw?t=334 for the older style and https://youtu.be/PYd-A3hfU14?t=150 sorry, i was looking for one where we got a close up shot of the newer ones but don’t seem to have it. These are all 1/2" and they seem to work fine for me. Now, if people want them we are willing to try to get the 3/8" though? Is it something that people would want?

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                Jonathon said in Summer sausage:

                twilliams I have never used the old school pliers, only the auto-style and have never had an issue closing off a casing with those styles. We used to have a 3/8 in all of our processing videos https://youtu.be/dTv_Cg5feNw?t=334 for the older style and https://youtu.be/PYd-A3hfU14?t=150 sorry, i was looking for one where we got a close up shot of the newer ones but don’t seem to have it. These are all 1/2" and they seem to work fine for me. Now, if people want them we are willing to try to get the 3/8" though? Is it something that people would want?

                I would describe my hog ring pliers, which I pictured earlier, as the old school variety. As I mentioned, they work well with 3/8 inch rings on summer sausage casings. I suspect this basic design doesn’t have enough leverage for them to work well with the 1/2 inch rings on the casings we are discussing.

                Paul

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                  twilliams I have never used the old school pliers, only the auto-style and have never had an issue closing off a casing with those styles. We used to have a 3/8 in all of our processing videos https://youtu.be/dTv_Cg5feNw?t=334 for the older style and https://youtu.be/PYd-A3hfU14?t=150 sorry, i was looking for one where we got a close up shot of the newer ones but don’t seem to have it. These are all 1/2" and they seem to work fine for me. Now, if people want them we are willing to try to get the 3/8" though? Is it something that people would want?

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                  Jonathon
                  I’ve tried the 1/2in auto feed with the Walton’s one. Just doesn’t seal with the standard fibrous SS casings. The 3/8 work fine but can no longer find these.

                  From what I could tell from those videos you were using the 3/8.

                  Side note. My original auto feed was an LEM that used 3/8 rings. Went to Scheels after the Walton’s 1/2 in didn’t work to get the 3/8 for the LEM, didn’t have them, all 1/2 in. What???

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                  • processheadP processhead

                    Jonathon said in Summer sausage:

                    twilliams I have never used the old school pliers, only the auto-style and have never had an issue closing off a casing with those styles. We used to have a 3/8 in all of our processing videos https://youtu.be/dTv_Cg5feNw?t=334 for the older style and https://youtu.be/PYd-A3hfU14?t=150 sorry, i was looking for one where we got a close up shot of the newer ones but don’t seem to have it. These are all 1/2" and they seem to work fine for me. Now, if people want them we are willing to try to get the 3/8" though? Is it something that people would want?

                    I would describe my hog ring pliers, which I pictured earlier, as the old school variety. As I mentioned, they work well with 3/8 inch rings on summer sausage casings. I suspect this basic design doesn’t have enough leverage for them to work well with the 1/2 inch rings on the casings we are discussing.

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                    processhead
                    I also have the hand held 3/8 single use one. The whole idea of the auto speed was to , obviously, speed things up.

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                    • PapaSopP PapaSop

                      processhead
                      I also have the hand held 3/8 single use one. The whole idea of the auto speed was to , obviously, speed things up.

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                      PapaSop said in Summer sausage:

                      processhead
                      I also have the hand held 3/8 single use one. The whole idea of the auto speed was to , obviously, speed things up.

                      To be honest, I have never had to clip more than maybe a dozen casings. Speed, or a lack of it, was never an issue with my plain jane pliers.

                      If I was a commercial operator, I might be looking for a faster clipping solution.

                      Paul

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                      • processheadP processhead

                        PapaSop said in Summer sausage:

                        processhead
                        I also have the hand held 3/8 single use one. The whole idea of the auto speed was to , obviously, speed things up.

                        To be honest, I have never had to clip more than maybe a dozen casings. Speed, or a lack of it, was never an issue with my plain jane pliers.

                        If I was a commercial operator, I might be looking for a faster clipping solution.

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                        processhead said in Summer sausage:

                        PapaSop said in Summer sausage:

                        processhead
                        I also have the hand held 3/8 single use one. The whole idea of the auto speed was to , obviously, speed things up.

                        To be honest, I have never had to clip more than maybe a dozen casings. Speed, or a lack of it, was never an issue with my plain jane pliers.

                        If I was a commercial operator, I might be looking for a faster clipping solution.

                        I agree. The whole idea is to not have insert another ring into a hand held while sealing. Extra step.

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                        • PapaSopP PapaSop

                          Jonathon
                          I’ve tried the 1/2in auto feed with the Walton’s one. Just doesn’t seal with the standard fibrous SS casings. The 3/8 work fine but can no longer find these.

                          From what I could tell from those videos you were using the 3/8.

                          Side note. My original auto feed was an LEM that used 3/8 rings. Went to Scheels after the Walton’s 1/2 in didn’t work to get the 3/8 for the LEM, didn’t have them, all 1/2 in. What???

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                          PapaSop The DeWalt auto feed is about $30 and comes with 2 or 300 rings. Works perfect!

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                            I guess my bottom line on this is the 1/2 in auto feed does not completely clamp the casing. The 3/8 does.

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