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  • Tex_77T Offline
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    Team Blue Power User Traeger Primo Grills PK Grills Canning Sous Vide Community Moderator
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    Austin I’m sure this story is of great importance to you and your penchat for frozen pizza’s.
    Kansas’ largest pizza manufacturer is expanding, bringing hundreds of jobs and boosting state economy

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    “A 2021 report commissioned by Congress and written by Anderson and two other Texas A&M economists concluded consolidation among meatpackers had not affected beef prices much. “Research indicates that there is market power, but its effect has been small,” the report noted.”

    Bird Flu Continues To Spread, Avian Influenza Outbreak In Long Island, New York

    Beef industry faces packer fallacies

    Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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      Thanks for the articles.

      My question is if the consolidation of meat packers didn’t drive up the price then what did. The price at the sale barn has only went up approximately .20/lb, but yet retail is up by dollars a pound. These are the same folks that said that the reason the commodity grains went up so much was because of China rebuilding their swine population, but yet cotton products to include cottonseed was going up faster and hogs don’t eat cotton products especially not the seed. After digging i found out why, China is stock piling grain commodities at and extreme rate.

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      • mrobisrM mrobisr

        Thanks for the articles.

        My question is if the consolidation of meat packers didn’t drive up the price then what did. The price at the sale barn has only went up approximately .20/lb, but yet retail is up by dollars a pound. These are the same folks that said that the reason the commodity grains went up so much was because of China rebuilding their swine population, but yet cotton products to include cottonseed was going up faster and hogs don’t eat cotton products especially not the seed. After digging i found out why, China is stock piling grain commodities at and extreme rate.

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        mrobisr In my opinion there are several things that have drove up retail beef prices. The first being the cost to process, especially with increased labor costs, the starting salary at the packing houses has gone up substantially over the last 2 years, cost of safety measures for Covid-19 implemented, as well as increased cost of fuel. With labor shortages due to Covid 19 there was not packing capacity for periods of time over the last year, so supply and demand factors then came into effect to drive the price up as well. When there is no capacity to kill cattle, that will drive beef prices down, because there is no demand from the packer to buy. Once beef leaves the packer it is then subject to prices increases from the wholesaler down to the grocery store, and all of their costs have gone up as well, so those cost then get passed on to the consumer. It’s easy to blame the packer, so that’s where in my opinion the finger has been pointed, and they certainly are one part of the increase, but certainly aren’t the only reason prices have gone up. The best way to buy beef at the best price is to find a rancher/cattleman that you trust, and buy beef directly from them as a whole, half or quarter. One of the other problems during the pandemic has been that some cattle that would have normally been destined for one of the big 4 packers, were sent to smaller packers, so there were no kill spots available for many people who would have normally brought in a few head to butcher at various times during the year, I think from what I am hearing that pressure has eased off, but is not completely gone yet.

        Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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        • Tex_77T Tex_77

          mrobisr In my opinion there are several things that have drove up retail beef prices. The first being the cost to process, especially with increased labor costs, the starting salary at the packing houses has gone up substantially over the last 2 years, cost of safety measures for Covid-19 implemented, as well as increased cost of fuel. With labor shortages due to Covid 19 there was not packing capacity for periods of time over the last year, so supply and demand factors then came into effect to drive the price up as well. When there is no capacity to kill cattle, that will drive beef prices down, because there is no demand from the packer to buy. Once beef leaves the packer it is then subject to prices increases from the wholesaler down to the grocery store, and all of their costs have gone up as well, so those cost then get passed on to the consumer. It’s easy to blame the packer, so that’s where in my opinion the finger has been pointed, and they certainly are one part of the increase, but certainly aren’t the only reason prices have gone up. The best way to buy beef at the best price is to find a rancher/cattleman that you trust, and buy beef directly from them as a whole, half or quarter. One of the other problems during the pandemic has been that some cattle that would have normally been destined for one of the big 4 packers, were sent to smaller packers, so there were no kill spots available for many people who would have normally brought in a few head to butcher at various times during the year, I think from what I am hearing that pressure has eased off, but is not completely gone yet.

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          Tex_77 Well put Tex_77. You put together the pieces for the higher beef prices. It’s not a single thing, but an accumulation of things that have occurred or the last 2 years plus. Unfortunately, in the end, it is us the consumer that must bear the brunt of the $$ increases. Hopefully things will get better but it won’t happen overnight.

          Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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            You are exactly right Tex that is why I buy a half from a farmer who raises red angus the problem we have around here is you have to make a appointment about 9 months in advance

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              I added an additional story at the bottom of the original post, that those of you who have replied to this thread may have interest in.

              Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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              • Tex_77T Tex_77

                I added an additional story at the bottom of the original post, that those of you who have replied to this thread may have interest in.

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                Tex_77 Thanks Tex, but it still makes me wonder about the big four’s profits “120% collective jump in their gross profits since the pandemic and a 500% increase in net income, the analysis shows”, but I digress.

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                  mrobisr In my opinion there are several things that have drove up retail beef prices. The first being the cost to process, especially with increased labor costs, the starting salary at the packing houses has gone up substantially over the last 2 years, cost of safety measures for Covid-19 implemented, as well as increased cost of fuel. With labor shortages due to Covid 19 there was not packing capacity for periods of time over the last year, so supply and demand factors then came into effect to drive the price up as well. When there is no capacity to kill cattle, that will drive beef prices down, because there is no demand from the packer to buy. Once beef leaves the packer it is then subject to prices increases from the wholesaler down to the grocery store, and all of their costs have gone up as well, so those cost then get passed on to the consumer. It’s easy to blame the packer, so that’s where in my opinion the finger has been pointed, and they certainly are one part of the increase, but certainly aren’t the only reason prices have gone up. The best way to buy beef at the best price is to find a rancher/cattleman that you trust, and buy beef directly from them as a whole, half or quarter. One of the other problems during the pandemic has been that some cattle that would have normally been destined for one of the big 4 packers, were sent to smaller packers, so there were no kill spots available for many people who would have normally brought in a few head to butcher at various times during the year, I think from what I am hearing that pressure has eased off, but is not completely gone yet.

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                  Tex_77 interesting 🤔. Thanks for sharing.

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